So the Pats get another A in the draft - Page 20

sg3 · 04-30-2012, 05:49 PM

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ASG0531 · 04-30-2012, 06:08 PM

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Though he tried his best, a Brady lead team has never been able to beat a Sanchez lead team in the post season.

NFL full re-draft, your goal is to win a Super Bowl this year, no teams exist yet... you're on the clock in the first round while QBs are available - who do you take, Sanchez or Brady?

JetsFanatic · 04-30-2012, 06:18 PM

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NFL full re-draft, your goal is to win a Super Bowl this year, no teams exist yet... you're on the clock in the first round while QBs are available - who do you take, Sanchez or Brady?

In this fantasy world, is video taping defensive signals permitted? Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl without that advantage.

Jetnoob · 04-30-2012, 06:23 PM

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In this fantasy world, is video taping defensive signals permitted? Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl without that advantage.

bullitt929 · 04-30-2012, 06:32 PM

Let's just say that I don't buy into any part of the idea that the absence of cameras is a reason that the Pats haven't won a recent Lombardi. The Pats have become a little bit like the Marino Dolphins---lots of offfense, especially in the regular season,but not quite enough defense. You can't just dial up replacements for guys like Seymour, McGinest, Bruschi and Law. We'll see how this draft class does, but I think if the Jets can find some consistent offense, the Pats can be had. If, if, if.

Spectre · 04-30-2012, 06:47 PM

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The Jets have won more post season games since 2009 then the Patriots*.

Though he's tried his best, a Brady-lead team has never beaten a Sanchez-lead team in the post season.

Figures don't lie but liars figure.

So I guess by that analysis everyone would want to take Sanchez over Brady as their QB and the Jets over the Patriots as their team?

ASG0531 · 04-30-2012, 07:57 PM

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In this fantasy world, is video taping defensive signals permitted? Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl without that advantage.

Actually yes... hell, step it up, the defense knows what's coming every play. Who do you choose to beat them down the field for a TD? Sanchez or Brady?

sg3 · 04-30-2012, 08:59 PM

enjoy Tammi for the next two seasons, max

because she's coming to an end after that and the Ryan "Leaf" Mullett error will begin

GuidoYaztremski · 04-30-2012, 09:29 PM

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enjoy Tammi for the next two seasons, max

because she's coming to an end after that and the Ryan "Leaf" Mullett error will begin

Two seasons max? Because Brady's skills and competitive desire are waning?

And just curious, what are the comparables you're using to equate Mallet (whom you've never seen play) with Leaf?

sg3 · 04-30-2012, 09:41 PM

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FF2® · 04-30-2012, 09:43 PM

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he said you should GFY.

sg3 · 04-30-2012, 09:46 PM

almost time for you to join your pals, fatman

HitSomeone41 · 04-30-2012, 10:28 PM

Draft fallout: Are the Jets asking too much, too soon?

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Around The League editor
Published: April 30, 2012 at 01:45 p.m.
Updated: April 30, 2012 at 02:53 p.m.

Are the Jets asking too much of their first two picks?

After the Seattle Seahawks swiped Bruce Irvin, the New York Jets swung for the fences with their first round pick defensive end Quinton Coples. The kid is a quintessential boom-or-bust pick that is long on talent and short on certainty. Second round pick Stephen Hill is in the same mold. The Georgia Tech product owns terrific measurables, but he's considered raw and difficult to project after playing in a limited passing offense in college.

Taking calculated risks is fine, but this Jets team is counting on these two players to fill major holes immediately. Coach Rex Ryan said he envisioned Coples and Hill starting right away.

New York is desperate for a pass rusher that can win one-on-one matchups. Mike DeVito is apparently not that guy; Coples might be. Hill is a very raw route runner, but he'll have to learn on the fly with Jeremy Kerley as the team's No. 3 receiver and, uh, Chaz Schilens after that. Ryan is making life difficult on his inexperienced quarterbacks and his inexperienced rookie wideout.

(Yet if this was Bill Belicheat, wow, he'd be grooming kid right into Canton, yes gentlemen and Pats fans, Bill Belicheat would get it done!!!)

The Jets expect to make the playoffs. They need their first two picks to contribute a great deal to get there, no matter how much they have to learn. Ryan's comments on the state of his defense after adding Coples says it all.

“I don’t want to put any undue expectations on our team,” Ryan said. “So I would expect that we’d lead the league.”

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Yes, we Jets are asking TOO MUCH from our picks.
Who do we think we are? The Pats? who never rely on any draft pick needing to start and produce. Only those delusional Jets would expect production from these QUESTIONABLE and RISKY picks.
Hahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

what a joke.

Patriot 86 · 04-30-2012, 10:36 PM

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Two seasons max? Because Brady's skills and competitive desire are waning?

And just curious, what are the comparables you're using to equate Mallet (whom you've never seen play) with Leaf?

Then the Pats and Jets will both have horrible QBs and it will at least make the division title race interesting.

FF2® · 04-30-2012, 10:43 PM

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almost time for you to join your pals, fatman

can't handle mean old TX?

What a *****

sg3 · 04-30-2012, 11:00 PM

I think I've just about got this entire place fumigated now....

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PatriotReign · 05-01-2012, 08:10 AM

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I think I've just about got this entire place fumigated now....

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My son used to plug his ears with his fingers and ignore me...when he was 4. Time to buy some internet big boy pants.

Ryan Mallet will likely not be as good as Brady but that can be said for 95% of other QBs. Sanchez has been average up to this point, I'm sure Mallet is capable of achieving that lofty status when he eventually plays.

Patriot 86 · 05-01-2012, 08:22 AM

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My son used to plug his ears with his fingers and ignore me...when he was 4. Time to buy some internet big boy pants.

Ryan Mallet will likely not be as good as Brady but that can be said for 95% of other QBs. Sanchez has been average up to this point, I'm sure Mallet is capable of achieving that lofty status when he eventually plays.

Average ! not being able to complete 60% passes and never having a QBR over 80 isn't average it sucks.

Rob0729 · 05-01-2012, 08:27 AM

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Savage69 · 05-01-2012, 08:35 AM

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Average ! not being able to complete 60% passes and never having a QBR over 80 isn't average it sucks.

And going 16-0 and 13-3 is a fine season avg for wins but it don't mean squat when you get beat in the Super Bowl from a 10-6, 9-7 team..

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bullitt929 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,119	Let's just say that I don't buy into any part of the idea that the absence of cameras is a reason that the Pats haven't won a recent Lombardi. The Pats have become a little bit like the Marino Dolphins---lots of offfense, especially in the regular season,but not quite enough defense. You can't just dial up replacements for guys like Seymour, McGinest, Bruschi and Law. We'll see how this draft class does, but I think if the Jets can find some consistent offense, the Pats can be had. If, if, if.

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sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,360	enjoy Tammi for the next two seasons, max because she's coming to an end after that and the Ryan "Leaf" Mullett error will begin

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HitSomeone41 is watching The First 48.... All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lima Zulu Posts: 6,064	Draft fallout: Are the Jets asking too much, too soon? By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com Around The League editor Published: April 30, 2012 at 01:45 p.m. Updated: April 30, 2012 at 02:53 p.m. Are the Jets asking too much of their first two picks? After the Seattle Seahawks swiped Bruce Irvin, the New York Jets swung for the fences with their first round pick defensive end Quinton Coples. The kid is a quintessential boom-or-bust pick that is long on talent and short on certainty. Second round pick Stephen Hill is in the same mold. The Georgia Tech product owns terrific measurables, but he's considered raw and difficult to project after playing in a limited passing offense in college. Taking calculated risks is fine, but this Jets team is counting on these two players to fill major holes immediately. Coach Rex Ryan said he envisioned Coples and Hill starting right away. New York is desperate for a pass rusher that can win one-on-one matchups. Mike DeVito is apparently not that guy; Coples might be. Hill is a very raw route runner, but he'll have to learn on the fly with Jeremy Kerley as the team's No. 3 receiver and, uh, Chaz Schilens after that. Ryan is making life difficult on his inexperienced quarterbacks and his inexperienced rookie wideout. (Yet if this was Bill Belicheat, wow, he'd be grooming kid right into Canton, yes gentlemen and Pats fans, Bill Belicheat would get it done!!!) The Jets expect to make the playoffs. They need their first two picks to contribute a great deal to get there, no matter how much they have to learn. Ryan's comments on the state of his defense after adding Coples says it all. “I don’t want to put any undue expectations on our team,” Ryan said. “So I would expect that we’d lead the league.” ----------------------------------------------------------- Yes, we Jets are asking TOO MUCH from our picks. Who do we think we are? The Pats? who never rely on any draft pick needing to start and produce. Only those delusional Jets would expect production from these QUESTIONABLE and RISKY picks. Hahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what a joke.

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