BOUNTY-GATE Player Punishments

lamont_jordan_rules · 05-02-2012, 11:57 AM

... Vilma 1 year ...

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 05-02-2012, 11:58 AM

:eek:

lamont_jordan_rules · 05-02-2012, 11:59 AM

Hargrove - (now with Greenbay) 8 games

Will Smith - 4 games

Fujita - (now with Cleveland) 3 games

lamont_jordan_rules · 05-02-2012, 12:00 PM

... from shein & gannon on sirius ...

... vilma offered $10k to any player that specifically knocked warner or favre out of games ...

l_j_r

PatsFanTX · 05-02-2012, 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=lamont_jordan_rules;4457321]Hargrove - (now with Greenbay) 8 games

Will Smith - 4 games

Fujita - (now with Cleveland) 3 games[/QUOTE]

Stinking cheaters.

Savage69 · 05-02-2012, 12:00 PM

:eek:

sg3 · 05-02-2012, 12:01 PM

really makes their obvious preferential treatment of Belichick, Kraft and the Patri***ts MORE OBVIOUS THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN

Buzzsaw · 05-02-2012, 12:01 PM

Appropriate. Goodell handed out righteous penalties to all involved IMO.

PatsFanTX · 05-02-2012, 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;4457325]:eek:[/QUOTE]

Savage, please scan the board before you start a new thread. ;)

JetPotato · 05-02-2012, 12:04 PM

This should nip this bounty thing in the bud for good, no?

lamont_jordan_rules · 05-02-2012, 12:05 PM

espn link - [url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7881761/nfl-bans-four-players-new-orleans-saints-bounty-roles[/url]

[QUOTE]The NFL suspended four players for their roles in the New Orleans Saints' bounty system, including linebacker Jonathan Vilma for the entire 2012 season.

In addition to Vilma, defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove was suspended eight games, defensive Will Smith four games and linebacker Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) three games.

A league investigation found that from 2009-11 New Orleans coaches and players put together a bounty system that paid out improper cash bonuses for hits aimed at knocking opposing players out of games. The NFL says as many as 27 Saints participated.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell already has suspended Saints coach Sean Payton for the 2012 season and fined the team $500,000. Saints former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is suspended indefinitely, New Orleans general manager Mickey Loomis begins an eight-game ban after the preseason, and interim coach Joe Vitt begins serves his six-game suspension at the same time.

Payton's suspension began April 16 and runs through the Super Bowl, which, incidentally, is in New Orleans. During that time, Payton may not even have casual, non-football conversations with anyone on any NFL team without at least notifying the league office.

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NPTJET53 · 05-02-2012, 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=sg3;4457327]really makes their obvious preferential treatment of Belichick, Kraft and the Patri***ts MORE OBVIOUS THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN[/QUOTE]

I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.

SMC · 05-02-2012, 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4457337]This should nip this bounty thing in the bud for good, no?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think the punishments should pretty much end any team using bounties.

A HC and player loses a year out of their careers and a DC is essentially banned for life.

augustiniak · 05-02-2012, 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4457341]I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.[/QUOTE]

the nfl values player health more than fair competition. that's really all i see here.

Savage69 · 05-02-2012, 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4457330]Savage, please scan the board before you start a new thread. ;)[/QUOTE]

I did I was looking for a Vilma thread.. Missed the bountygate..:P

greenwichjetfan · 05-02-2012, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=augustiniak;4457344][B]the nfl values player health more than fair competition[/B]. that's really all i see here.[/QUOTE]

They don't give a **** about player health. It's $$$$$

They care much more about avoiding lawsuits with the facade of caring about player safety.

They also know that unfair competitive advantage stories can rip through a sport (see baseball), and wanted to quell the negative reaction by destroying any evidence.

I'm not saying the Pats gained anything of significance; I'm saying we won't ever know because of Goodell.

GMCJETS · 05-02-2012, 12:18 PM

Wow shocked Vilma was even involved in all this. Met him on numerous occasions and have some nice memorabilia signed by him.

BrianNY · 05-02-2012, 12:22 PM

so would a team who signed any of those players receive any compensation? i mean the other team wasnt involved in this, and they are getting punished.

well, i guess it just comes with the signing. buyer beware.

PatsFanTX · 05-02-2012, 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4457341]I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, comparing the two situations is like comparing a shop lifter to a serial killer.

cedk · 05-02-2012, 12:27 PM

Its over the top. For the players that are misled by elders and those that are in the [B][U]role of authority.[/U][/B]

Its bull that the players are penalized at all.
they are not in charge of the team coaching snack bar or anything else.

05-02-2012, 11:57 AM	#1
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,238	BOUNTY-GATE Player Punishments ... Vilma 1 year ...

05-02-2012, 12:00 PM	#6
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,240	Vilma suspended for the 2012 season... :eek:

05-02-2012, 11:58 AM	#2
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,445	:eek:

05-02-2012, 11:59 AM	#3
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,238	Hargrove - (now with Greenbay) 8 games Will Smith - 4 games Fujita - (now with Cleveland) 3 games

05-02-2012, 12:00 PM	#5
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=lamont_jordan_rules;4457321]Hargrove - (now with Greenbay) 8 games Will Smith - 4 games Fujita - (now with Cleveland) 3 games[/QUOTE] Stinking cheaters.

05-02-2012, 12:01 PM	#7
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	really makes their obvious preferential treatment of Belichick, Kraft and the Patri***ts MORE OBVIOUS THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN

05-02-2012, 12:01 PM	#8
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,293	Appropriate. Goodell handed out righteous penalties to all involved IMO.

05-02-2012, 12:04 PM	#10
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	This should nip this bounty thing in the bud for good, no?

05-02-2012, 12:05 PM	#11
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,238	espn link - [url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7881761/nfl-bans-four-players-new-orleans-saints-bounty-roles[/url] [QUOTE]The NFL suspended four players for their roles in the New Orleans Saints' bounty system, including linebacker Jonathan Vilma for the entire 2012 season. In addition to Vilma, defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove was suspended eight games, defensive Will Smith four games and linebacker Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) three games. A league investigation found that from 2009-11 New Orleans coaches and players put together a bounty system that paid out improper cash bonuses for hits aimed at knocking opposing players out of games. The NFL says as many as 27 Saints participated. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell already has suspended Saints coach Sean Payton for the 2012 season and fined the team $500,000. Saints former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is suspended indefinitely, New Orleans general manager Mickey Loomis begins an eight-game ban after the preseason, and interim coach Joe Vitt begins serves his six-game suspension at the same time. Payton's suspension began April 16 and runs through the Super Bowl, which, incidentally, is in New Orleans. During that time, Payton may not even have casual, non-football conversations with anyone on any NFL team without at least notifying the league office. [/QUOTE]

05-02-2012, 12:07 PM	#12
NPTJET53 God hates Jets fans Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 428	[QUOTE=sg3;4457327]really makes their obvious preferential treatment of Belichick, Kraft and the Patri***ts MORE OBVIOUS THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN[/QUOTE] I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.

05-02-2012, 12:07 PM	#13
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4457337]This should nip this bounty thing in the bud for good, no?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I think the punishments should pretty much end any team using bounties. A HC and player loses a year out of their careers and a DC is essentially banned for life.

05-02-2012, 12:08 PM	#14
augustiniak All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,097	[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4457341]I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.[/QUOTE] the nfl values player health more than fair competition. that's really all i see here.

05-02-2012, 12:14 PM	#16
greenwichjetfan All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,064	[QUOTE=augustiniak;4457344][B]the nfl values player health more than fair competition[/B]. that's really all i see here.[/QUOTE] They don't give a **** about player health. It's $$$$$ They care much more about avoiding lawsuits with the facade of caring about player safety. They also know that unfair competitive advantage stories can rip through a sport (see baseball), and wanted to quell the negative reaction by destroying any evidence. I'm not saying the Pats gained anything of significance; I'm saying we won't ever know because of Goodell.

05-02-2012, 12:18 PM	#17
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	Wow shocked Vilma was even involved in all this. Met him on numerous occasions and have some nice memorabilia signed by him.

05-02-2012, 12:22 PM	#18
BrianNY Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,066	so would a team who signed any of those players receive any compensation? i mean the other team wasnt involved in this, and they are getting punished. well, i guess it just comes with the signing. buyer beware.

05-02-2012, 12:27 PM	#19
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=NPTJET53;4457341]I am a big believer in the pats cover up, but after all the suspensions and fines for the saints, I am starting to believe that the Patriots weren't doing anything that extreme.[/QUOTE] Exactly, comparing the two situations is like comparing a shop lifter to a serial killer.

05-02-2012, 12:27 PM	#20
cedk Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 462	Its over the top. For the players that are misled by elders and those that are in the [B][U]role of authority.[/U][/B] Its bull that the players are penalized at all. they are not in charge of the team coaching snack bar or anything else.