Black humor

EM31 · 05-03-2012, 08:58 AM

No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday.

My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday.

I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide.

Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?")

So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this?

For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 05-03-2012, 08:59 AM

People that took offense need to remove sand from vagina...

quantum · 05-03-2012, 09:07 AM

He played for the Pasts* - that means anything is fair game. :D

MnJetFan · 05-03-2012, 09:14 AM

That is non white humor.

bullitt929 · 05-03-2012, 09:17 AM

I have no idea what the time line is, there are too many variables. But I am reminded of what Justice Stewart said in 1964 about obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

titanbuoy · 05-03-2012, 09:25 AM

I don't think it's so much the time removed from the event in question as it is where you do it: A thread where people are giving condolences, looking for answers and sharing memories of a player they respected probably isn't the greatest place to be trying out new schtick.

FF2® · 05-03-2012, 09:29 AM

I think alot of how you "take" humor on different subjects depends on your individual live experiences, where you are currently in life and your individual personality. Trust me, I use humor as much as anyone to handle dark times, I see the absurdity in life. For instance, at a funeral, theres a big difference between a family member making a joke, and a guest insulting the deceased.

The web is a mix of so many anonymous people, you're always going to have this problem. I'm sure those cracking wise yesterday would never say anything like that to his Mom, for instance. They see it as a joke on the internet, nothing more and thats their right. In the end it all doesn't mean much anyway. Doesn't make them bad guys.

With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive, especially after I saw his Mom. But again, that's just me. You can't take things online so serious though.

FF2® · 05-03-2012, 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=bullitt929;4458335]I have no idea what the time line is, there are too many variables. But I am reminded of what Justice Stewart said in 1964 about obscenity: "I know it when I see it."[/QUOTE]

Brandt, you are incorrigible!!

simijet · 05-03-2012, 09:33 AM

[QUOTE=titanbuoy;4458340]I don't think it's so much the time removed from the event in question as it is where you do it: A thread where people are giving condolences, looking for answers and sharing memories of a player they respected probably isn't the greatest place to be trying out new schtick.[/QUOTE]

Yep :yes:

RussianGreen · 05-03-2012, 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4458344]

With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive.[/QUOTE]

Dunno. But I respect your last wish and promise not to post any jokes the day you'll do it.

FF2® · 05-03-2012, 09:45 AM

[QUOTE=RussianGreen;4458352]Dunno. But I respect your last wish and promise not to post any jokes the day you'll do it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man, that mean alot.

JStokes · 05-03-2012, 10:00 AM

I thought he was Samoan?

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RaoulDuke · 05-03-2012, 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4458344]I think alot of how you "take" humor on different subjects depends on your individual live experiences, where you are currently in life and your individual personality. Trust me, I use humor as much as anyone to handle dark times, I see the absurdity in life. For instance, at a funeral, theres a big difference between a family member making a joke, and a guest insulting the deceased.

The web is a mix of so many anonymous people, you're always going to have this problem. I'm sure those cracking wise yesterday would never say anything like that to his Mom, for instance. They see it as a joke on the internet, nothing more and thats their right. In the end it all doesn't mean much anyway. Doesn't make them bad guys.

With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive, especially after I saw his Mom. But again, that's just me. You can't take things online so serious though.[/QUOTE]

Is this your longest post ever?

RaoulDuke · 05-03-2012, 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=EM31;4458317]No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday.

My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday.

I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide.

Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?")

So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this?

For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?[/QUOTE]
Making a joke is one thing. Saying he's a doosh and selfish for offing himself isn't black humor.

We have a saying: you can laugh about anything, just not with anyone. This being the internet, you have no idea of the intentions of the guy making the remark (like FF2's example at the funeral).

I'll laugh at anything and found some of the remarks plain dumb. Not offensive because I didn't know the guy, just dumb.

FlagmanL11 · 05-03-2012, 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=EM31;4458317]No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday.

My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday.

I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide.

Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?")

So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this?

For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?[/QUOTE]

The "Wall Street" Seau jokes should be out this afternoon....

DDNYjets · 05-03-2012, 10:50 AM

There is no place for "comic relief" within the same thread when it comes to a tragedy like this. Especially when the subject of the attempted comedy is the same subject as the tragedy. Perhaps a separate thread with non-related funny stuff aimed to lighten the mood would have been appropriate.

But this is the internet. People are different on the internet then they are in real life. Some of the stuff that gets said here I guarantee would never get said in person or in "real life". For instance, I would never call Wayne Hunter "gay" to his face. :P

But what do I know? I have a sandy vagina and cannot grow a pair.

bullitt929 · 05-03-2012, 10:58 AM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4458346]Brandt, you are incorrigible!![/QUOTE]

This is our concern, Dude. ;)

JetPotato · 05-03-2012, 11:03 AM

So we're calling "dark humor" "black humor" now?

I can't keep up.

southside · 05-03-2012, 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4458491]So we're calling "dark humor" "black humor" now?

I can't keep up.[/QUOTE]

+1

This whole thread is racist.

bullitt929 · 05-03-2012, 11:28 AM

from dictionary.com:

black humor
noun
a form of humor that regards human suffering as absurd rather than pitiable, or that considers human existence as ironic and pointless but somehow comic.

05-03-2012, 08:58 AM	#1
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,148	Black humor No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday. My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday. I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide. Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?") So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this? For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?

05-03-2012, 08:59 AM	#2
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,448	People that took offense need to remove sand from vagina...

05-03-2012, 09:07 AM	#3
quantum GFY Snatchez! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI Posts: 17,884	He played for the Pasts* - that means anything is fair game. :D

05-03-2012, 09:14 AM	#4
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	That is non white humor.

05-03-2012, 09:17 AM	#5
bullitt929 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,119	I have no idea what the time line is, there are too many variables. But I am reminded of what Justice Stewart said in 1964 about obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

05-03-2012, 09:25 AM	#6
titanbuoy medium rare Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 264	I don't think it's so much the time removed from the event in question as it is where you do it: A thread where people are giving condolences, looking for answers and sharing memories of a player they respected probably isn't the greatest place to be trying out new schtick.

05-03-2012, 09:29 AM	#7
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,162	I think alot of how you "take" humor on different subjects depends on your individual live experiences, where you are currently in life and your individual personality. Trust me, I use humor as much as anyone to handle dark times, I see the absurdity in life. For instance, at a funeral, theres a big difference between a family member making a joke, and a guest insulting the deceased. The web is a mix of so many anonymous people, you're always going to have this problem. I'm sure those cracking wise yesterday would never say anything like that to his Mom, for instance. They see it as a joke on the internet, nothing more and thats their right. In the end it all doesn't mean much anyway. Doesn't make them bad guys. With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive, especially after I saw his Mom. But again, that's just me. You can't take things online so serious though.

05-03-2012, 09:33 AM	#9
simijet All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 4,184	[QUOTE=titanbuoy;4458340]I don't think it's so much the time removed from the event in question as it is where you do it: A thread where people are giving condolences, looking for answers and sharing memories of a player they respected probably isn't the greatest place to be trying out new schtick.[/QUOTE] Yep :yes:

05-03-2012, 09:35 AM	#10
RussianGreen hates you Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,416	[QUOTE=FF2®;4458344] With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive.[/QUOTE] Dunno. But I respect your last wish and promise not to post any jokes the day you'll do it.

05-03-2012, 09:45 AM	#11
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,162	[QUOTE=RussianGreen;4458352]Dunno. But I respect your last wish and promise not to post any jokes the day you'll do it.[/QUOTE] Thanks man, that mean alot.

05-03-2012, 10:00 AM	#12
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	I thought he was Samoan? _

05-03-2012, 10:16 AM	#13
RaoulDuke Son of Ham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 11,869	[QUOTE=FF2®;4458344]I think alot of how you "take" humor on different subjects depends on your individual live experiences, where you are currently in life and your individual personality. Trust me, I use humor as much as anyone to handle dark times, I see the absurdity in life. For instance, at a funeral, theres a big difference between a family member making a joke, and a guest insulting the deceased. The web is a mix of so many anonymous people, you're always going to have this problem. I'm sure those cracking wise yesterday would never say anything like that to his Mom, for instance. They see it as a joke on the internet, nothing more and thats their right. In the end it all doesn't mean much anyway. Doesn't make them bad guys. With that said, jokes about a suicide on the day it happens TO ME are offensive, especially after I saw his Mom. But again, that's just me. You can't take things online so serious though.[/QUOTE] Is this your longest post ever?

05-03-2012, 10:20 AM	#14
RaoulDuke Son of Ham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 11,869	[QUOTE=EM31;4458317]No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday. My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday. I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide. Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?") So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this? For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?[/QUOTE] Making a joke is one thing. Saying he's a doosh and selfish for offing himself isn't black humor. We have a saying: you can laugh about anything, just not with anyone. This being the internet, you have no idea of the intentions of the guy making the remark (like FF2's example at the funeral). I'll laugh at anything and found some of the remarks plain dumb. Not offensive because I didn't know the guy, just dumb.

05-03-2012, 10:43 AM	#15
FlagmanL11 4 months until the first home tailgate!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 3,064	[QUOTE=EM31;4458317]No not that kind of black humor although I too did get a kick out of the chicken drumstick animated GIF yesterday. My question surrounds black humor and the Junior Seau tragedy yesterday. I noticed yesterday how some of the more irreverent posters on here, even including some mods were taking offense at a few early attempts at humor with respect to the (apparent) Junior Seau suicide. Gilbert Gottfried obviously got it wrong in the minds of most people after the Japan Tsunami event ("Too soon?") So anyhow, how soon is too soon for JI on stuff like this? For people who took offense yesterday, would you take the same offense two weeks from now? Six months from now?[/QUOTE] The "Wall Street" Seau jokes should be out this afternoon....

05-03-2012, 10:50 AM	#16
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,253	There is no place for "comic relief" within the same thread when it comes to a tragedy like this. Especially when the subject of the attempted comedy is the same subject as the tragedy. Perhaps a separate thread with non-related funny stuff aimed to lighten the mood would have been appropriate. But this is the internet. People are different on the internet then they are in real life. Some of the stuff that gets said here I guarantee would never get said in person or in "real life". For instance, I would never call Wayne Hunter "gay" to his face. :P But what do I know? I have a sandy vagina and cannot grow a pair.

05-03-2012, 10:58 AM	#17
bullitt929 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,119	[QUOTE=FF2®;4458346]Brandt, you are incorrigible!![/QUOTE] This is our concern, Dude. ;)

05-03-2012, 11:03 AM	#18
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,131	So we're calling "dark humor" "black humor" now? I can't keep up.

05-03-2012, 11:21 AM	#19
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,884	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4458491]So we're calling "dark humor" "black humor" now? I can't keep up.[/QUOTE] +1 This whole thread is racist.

05-03-2012, 11:28 AM	#20
bullitt929 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,119	from dictionary.com: black humor noun a form of humor that regards human suffering as absurd rather than pitiable, or that considers human existence as ironic and pointless but somehow comic.