Father Who Killed Daughter's Alleged Molester Won't Face Charges In Lavaca County, Te

srobjets · 06-19-2012, 10:36 PM

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SHINER, Texas — Hearing his 5-year-old daughter crying from behind a barn, a father ran and discovered the unthinkable: A man molesting her. The father pulled the man off his daughter, authorities say, and started pummeling him to death with his fists.

With his daughter finally safe, the father frantically called 911, begging a dispatcher to find his rural ranch and send an ambulance.

"Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" the man is heard screaming on the recording, which authorities played during a news conference Tuesday where they announced that the father would not face charges. "I don't know what to do!"

In declining to indict the 23-year-old father in the June 9 killing of Jesus Mora Flores, a Lavaca County grand jury reached the same conclusion as investigators and many of the father's neighbors: He was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.

"It's sad a man had to die," said Michael James Veit, 48, who lives across the street from where the attack happened in this small community run on ranching and the Shiner beer brewery. "But I think anybody would have done that."

The family ranch is so remote that on the 911 tape, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. At one point, he tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital.

"He's going to die!" the father screams, swearing at the dispatcher. "He's going to f------ die!"

The tense, nearly five-minute call begins with the father saying he "beat up" a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, shouting into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible.

The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter's identity. The AP generally does not identify victims of sexual assault.

"He's a peaceable soul," V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters at the Lavaca County Courthouse. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day."

The attack happened on the family's ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. Authorities say a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter's screams, the father pulled Flores off his child and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area," investigators said.

Emergency crews responding to the father's 911 call found Flores' pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body. The girl was examined at a hospital, and authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story that his daughter was being sexually molested.

The father was never arrested, but the killing was investigated as a homicide.

Philip Hilder, a Houston criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said he would have been surprised if the grand jury had decided to indict the father. Hilder said Texas law provides several justifications for the use of deadly force, including if someone commits a sexual assault.

"The grand jury was not about to indict this father for protecting his daughter," he said.

Authorities said the family had hired Flores before to help with horses on the ranch. He was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card. Attempts to locate Flores' relatives through public records were unsuccessful.

On Tuesday, a new "No Trespassing" sign was freshly tacked onto a gate barring entrance down a gravelly, shrub-canopied path leading to the barn and chicken coop on the ranch, which belonged to the father's dad.

At the father's house, the front yard could pass for a children's playground: blue pinwheels sunk into patchy grass, an above-ground swimming pool, a swing set, a trampoline and a couple of ropes dangling from a tree for swinging. A partial privacy fence is painted powder blue.

No one answered at the father's home. A few miles away, at a home listed as belonging to the father's sister, a woman shouted through the front door that the family had nothing to say. Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters that neither the father nor anyone else in the family would ever give interviews and asked that they be left alone.

Veit, who lives across the street from the ranch, described the father as easygoing and polite – down to always first asking permission to search Veit's property for animals that had wandered off the ranch, even though the families have long known each other.

Veit's son was a classmate of the father's at Shiner High School in a graduating class of about two dozen. Veit, 48, said the young father was never known to be in trouble.

"Just like a regular kid, went to dances, drank beer like the rest of the kids around here," Veit said.

Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. Even gas stations here sell it on tap.

Flores' death is only the sixth homicide the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office has investigated in the last eight years. Shiner residents boast their squeaky-clean image on a highway welcome sign: "The Cleanest Little City in Texas."

At Werner's Restaurant, customer Gail Allen said she didn't want to speak for the whole town, though her comments echoed what others said.

"The father has gone through enough," said Allen, 59, who has nine grandchildren. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that."

That scumbag deserved to die.

JetsNeedNewton · 06-19-2012, 10:52 PM

YES!

DDNYjets · 06-19-2012, 10:56 PM

A victory for common sense.

FijiJet · 06-19-2012, 11:00 PM

Killl the bastid. Serves him right

doggin94it · 06-19-2012, 11:06 PM

good.

jetrider · 06-20-2012, 01:22 AM

[QUOTE]
"Just like a regular kid, went to dances, [b]drank beer like the rest of the kids around here[/b]," Veit said.

Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. [b]Even gas stations here sell it on tap.[/b][/QUOTE]

LOL. Beer on tap for motorists ... sure that's a smart combo?

Not much different than selling explosives inside an airport terminal, no?

Should read "Shiner, a town of about 2000 drunk drivers and growing smaller."

Trades · 06-20-2012, 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=jetrider;4495828]LOL. Beer on tap for motorists ... sure that's a smart combo?

Not much different than selling explosives inside an airport terminal, no?

Should read "Shiner, a town of about 2000 drunk drivers and growing smaller."[/QUOTE]

I was in Biloxi, MS for a year when I was in the Air Force and there was a drive through Daqueri House that sold Bacardi 151 drinks in Styrofoam cups at a drive through!!!

quantum · 06-20-2012, 08:57 AM

Don't know why he got mad at the dispatcher. He should have told the dispatcher there was a pile of human trash that needed to be carted away, and took his daughter to the hospital.

crasherino · 06-20-2012, 02:24 PM

There's not much to say about this one - while we don't know all the facts, it seems as clear cut a justifiable killing as there ever will be. May that guy burn in hell for eternity.

What we can say, however, is how good a beer Shiner Bock is. Simply delicious. They don't sell it in NY for whatever reason - I bring home at least a case whenever I am in Delaware.

Warfish · 06-20-2012, 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=crasherino;4496419]There's not much to say about this one - while we don't know all the facts, it seems as clear cut a justifiable killing as there ever will be. [/QUOTE]

Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault?

If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed?

If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant?

How can we be sure?

doggin94it · 06-20-2012, 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497[B]]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim[/B], other than the minor girl and the father? [B] Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault[/B]?

If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed?

If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant?

How can we be sure?[/QUOTE]

Yes, there was.

[QUOTE]Authorities say a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. . . .

The girl was examined at a hospital, and [B]authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story[/B] that his daughter was being sexually molested.
[/QUOTE]

crasherino · 06-20-2012, 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault?

If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed?

If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant?

How can we be sure?[/QUOTE]

Edit - covered by Doggin already.

jetrider · 06-20-2012, 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault?

If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed?

If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant?

How can we be sure?[/QUOTE]

The molester was a 47-year-old part time helper at the father's ranch.

06-19-2012, 10:36 PM	#1
srobjets Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,455	Father Who Killed Daughter's Alleged Molester Won't Face Charges In Lavaca County, Te [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/father-kills-molester-texas-no-charges_n_1610465.html?1340144123&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D171344[/url] SHINER, Texas — Hearing his 5-year-old daughter crying from behind a barn, a father ran and discovered the unthinkable: A man molesting her. The father pulled the man off his daughter, authorities say, and started pummeling him to death with his fists. With his daughter finally safe, the father frantically called 911, begging a dispatcher to find his rural ranch and send an ambulance. "Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" the man is heard screaming on the recording, which authorities played during a news conference Tuesday where they announced that the father would not face charges. "I don't know what to do!" In declining to indict the 23-year-old father in the June 9 killing of Jesus Mora Flores, a Lavaca County grand jury reached the same conclusion as investigators and many of the father's neighbors: He was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter. "It's sad a man had to die," said Michael James Veit, 48, who lives across the street from where the attack happened in this small community run on ranching and the Shiner beer brewery. "But I think anybody would have done that." The family ranch is so remote that on the 911 tape, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. At one point, he tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital. "He's going to die!" the father screams, swearing at the dispatcher. "He's going to f------ die!" The tense, nearly five-minute call begins with the father saying he "beat up" a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, shouting into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible. The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter's identity. The AP generally does not identify victims of sexual assault. "He's a peaceable soul," V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters at the Lavaca County Courthouse. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day." The attack happened on the family's ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. Authorities say a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter's screams, the father pulled Flores off his child and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area," investigators said. Emergency crews responding to the father's 911 call found Flores' pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body. The girl was examined at a hospital, and authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story that his daughter was being sexually molested. The father was never arrested, but the killing was investigated as a homicide. Philip Hilder, a Houston criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said he would have been surprised if the grand jury had decided to indict the father. Hilder said Texas law provides several justifications for the use of deadly force, including if someone commits a sexual assault. "The grand jury was not about to indict this father for protecting his daughter," he said. Authorities said the family had hired Flores before to help with horses on the ranch. He was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card. Attempts to locate Flores' relatives through public records were unsuccessful. On Tuesday, a new "No Trespassing" sign was freshly tacked onto a gate barring entrance down a gravelly, shrub-canopied path leading to the barn and chicken coop on the ranch, which belonged to the father's dad. At the father's house, the front yard could pass for a children's playground: blue pinwheels sunk into patchy grass, an above-ground swimming pool, a swing set, a trampoline and a couple of ropes dangling from a tree for swinging. A partial privacy fence is painted powder blue. No one answered at the father's home. A few miles away, at a home listed as belonging to the father's sister, a woman shouted through the front door that the family had nothing to say. Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters that neither the father nor anyone else in the family would ever give interviews and asked that they be left alone. Veit, who lives across the street from the ranch, described the father as easygoing and polite – down to always first asking permission to search Veit's property for animals that had wandered off the ranch, even though the families have long known each other. Veit's son was a classmate of the father's at Shiner High School in a graduating class of about two dozen. Veit, 48, said the young father was never known to be in trouble. "Just like a regular kid, went to dances, drank beer like the rest of the kids around here," Veit said. Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. Even gas stations here sell it on tap. Flores' death is only the sixth homicide the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office has investigated in the last eight years. Shiner residents boast their squeaky-clean image on a highway welcome sign: "The Cleanest Little City in Texas." At Werner's Restaurant, customer Gail Allen said she didn't want to speak for the whole town, though her comments echoed what others said. "The father has gone through enough," said Allen, 59, who has nine grandchildren. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that." That scumbag deserved to die.

06-20-2012, 06:04 PM	#12
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,826	[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault? If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed? If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant? How can we be sure?[/QUOTE] Edit - covered by Doggin already. Last edited by crasherino; 06-20-2012 at 06:07 PM.

06-19-2012, 10:52 PM	#2
JetsNeedNewton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,697	YES!

06-19-2012, 10:56 PM	#3
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,300	A victory for common sense.

06-19-2012, 11:00 PM	#4
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	Killl the bastid. Serves him right

06-19-2012, 11:06 PM	#5
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,432	good.

06-20-2012, 01:22 AM	#6
jetrider Where are the Jets? Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,919	[QUOTE] "Just like a regular kid, went to dances, [b]drank beer like the rest of the kids around here[/b]," Veit said. Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. [b]Even gas stations here sell it on tap.[/b][/QUOTE] LOL. Beer on tap for motorists ... sure that's a smart combo? Not much different than selling explosives inside an airport terminal, no? Should read "Shiner, a town of about 2000 drunk drivers and growing smaller."

06-20-2012, 08:44 AM	#7
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,558	[QUOTE=jetrider;4495828]LOL. Beer on tap for motorists ... sure that's a smart combo? Not much different than selling explosives inside an airport terminal, no? Should read "Shiner, a town of about 2000 drunk drivers and growing smaller."[/QUOTE] I was in Biloxi, MS for a year when I was in the Air Force and there was a drive through Daqueri House that sold Bacardi 151 drinks in Styrofoam cups at a drive through!!!

06-20-2012, 08:57 AM	#8
quantum GFY Snatchez! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI Posts: 17,905	Don't know why he got mad at the dispatcher. He should have told the dispatcher there was a pile of human trash that needed to be carted away, and took his daughter to the hospital.

06-20-2012, 02:24 PM	#9
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,826	There's not much to say about this one - while we don't know all the facts, it seems as clear cut a justifiable killing as there ever will be. May that guy burn in hell for eternity. What we can say, however, is how good a beer Shiner Bock is. Simply delicious. They don't sell it in NY for whatever reason - I bring home at least a case whenever I am in Delaware.

06-20-2012, 03:14 PM	#10
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	[QUOTE=crasherino;4496419]There's not much to say about this one - while we don't know all the facts, it seems as clear cut a justifiable killing as there ever will be. [/QUOTE] Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault? If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed? If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant? How can we be sure?

06-20-2012, 03:40 PM	#11
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,432	[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497[B]]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim[/B], other than the minor girl and the father? [B] Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault[/B]? If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed? If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant? How can we be sure?[/QUOTE] Yes, there was. [QUOTE]Authorities say a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. . . . The girl was examined at a hospital, and [B]authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story[/B] that his daughter was being sexually molested. [/QUOTE]

06-20-2012, 09:11 PM	#13
jetrider Where are the Jets? Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,919	[QUOTE=Warfish;4496497]Was their another witness to the sexual assault portion of the claim, other than the minor girl and the father? Was their forensic eveidence to prove sexual assault? If not, how can anyone be sure it happened at all before he was beaten to death and killed? If not, how do we know he didn't kill him because he racially profiled him as an illegal hispanic immigrant? How can we be sure?[/QUOTE] The molester was a 47-year-old part time helper at the father's ranch.