Is winning the division too much of a stretch?

LadainianIMnotDONE · 06-18-2012, 09:56 PM

Not rhetorical by any means. I'm just trying to get an idea of what some Jet fans expectations are like. I haven't see any talk of winning the division which is good cause people are focused on other area's and etc but what are your expectations going into this season? Seems like everyone here that I see talk about what they expect this season at best is a wild-card birth and possibly trying to make a run cause they think NE is going 14-2 or 13-3 at worst. I think NE's squeaked out wins last year that next year they might not be able to do so. They are still very young on defense, not physical, and who knows if Brady will take a step back. Obviously you still need to beat NE if you're the Jets but I'm not thinking wild card strictly this year like some people I see on the forum. I'm interested to see how this team comes back from what happened last year early on when the season starts.

Wiggy · 06-18-2012, 10:01 PM

As long as Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are there the Jets have a minimal shot to win the AFCE. I mean have the Jets won it since Brady has been there? I think in 2005 on a tie breaker was the only time if I'm correct. That Patriots team was the 2nd worst in Belichick's tenure as HC of the NEP. They won only 9 games, the same as the Jets.

Gata · 06-18-2012, 10:12 PM

We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4

But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :(

FF2® · 06-18-2012, 10:13 PM

[QUOTE=Gata;4494834]We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4

But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :([/QUOTE]

is the Jets schedule harder than the Pats?

John_0515 · 06-18-2012, 10:16 PM

I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.

Flymax · 06-18-2012, 10:18 PM

a little early for this talk imho
how about a winning record?

FF2® · 06-18-2012, 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4494838]I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.[/QUOTE]

It's an interesting topic . which thread would you expect us in? :confused: 1986 Jets vs. Browns

Buzzsaw · 06-18-2012, 10:29 PM

If Brady were to get injured maybe.

GuidoYaztremski · 06-18-2012, 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=Gata;4494834]We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4

But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :([/QUOTE]

The real difference in the schedule is the Pats play the Jets twice and the Jets have to play the Pats. If that's what you mean by easier, you won't get an argument from me.

IMO, there's no way the Jets win 4 more games than last year. I expect the same record if things fall right for your team.

patman · 06-18-2012, 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4494838]I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.[/QUOTE]

Because the topic is the jets place in the division, not who is starting at RT for the jets.

The pats won 13 games last year and should even be a better team this year,
With Lloyd, Gafney, Fells, Fannae and Gregory.

Steelbirds · 06-18-2012, 10:33 PM

Yes, Buzzsaw. I think you're on to something brilliant. If Brady gets injured and Belicheck has amnesia (after game 1) and the Jets score a min of 4 TDs each and every game, then I'd say the Jets have a chance... to tie.

John_0515 · 06-18-2012, 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4494841]It's an interesting topic . which thread would you expect us in? :confused: 1986 Jets vs. Browns[/QUOTE]

But you don't discuss, you dismiss.

Try and think of reasons why the Jets could possibly win the division, without sounding completely biased. Just try.

Mohegangreen · 06-18-2012, 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=LadainianIMnotDONE;4494815]Not rhetorical by any means. I'm just trying to get an idea of what some Jet fans expectations are like. I haven't see any talk of winning the division which is good cause people are focused on other area's and etc but what are your expectations going into this season? Seems like everyone here that I see talk about what they expect this season at best is a wild-card birth and possibly trying to make a run cause they think NE is going 14-2 or 13-3 at worst. I think NE's squeaked out wins last year that next year they might not be able to do so. They are still very young on defense, not physical, and who knows if Brady will take a step back. Obviously you still need to beat NE if you're the Jets but I'm not thinking wild card strictly this year like some people I see on the forum. I'm interested to see how this team comes back from what happened last year early on when the season starts.[/QUOTE]
Odds are against it, but its possible. If we could have showed up in Foxboro Dec 2010, we would have won the division. Sweep their ass and the division is ours

FF2® · 06-18-2012, 10:34 PM

I.m very interested to see what that Jets O can do under Sparano.

He could be the big change the Jets need .

ucrenegade · 06-18-2012, 10:35 PM

very much so buffalo is better than us right now and the pats are light years ahead.

FF2® · 06-18-2012, 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4494848]But you don't discuss, you dismiss.

Try and think of reasons why the Jets could possibly win the division, without sounding completely biased. Just try.[/QUOTE]

I just posted something about sprano before seeing this. So there. :D

bcess · 06-18-2012, 10:37 PM

[QUOTE=FF2®;4494850]I.m very interested to see what that Jets O can do under Sparano.

He could be the big change the Jets need .[/QUOTE]

????????????????

Redrew · 06-18-2012, 10:42 PM

Don't ignore Buffalo. Last year Buffalo was a .500 team until Fred Jackson went down. They've bolstered a brutal defense this offseason.....they should be a riser.
Interesting factoid from 2011....the Jets, Buffalo and Miami were all brutal on the road....young QB syndrome???
Face it.....Brady vs Sanchez.....no way the Jets surpasss NE

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 06-18-2012, 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=GuidoYaztremski;4494844]The real difference in the schedule is the Pats play the Jets twice and the Jets have to play the Pats. If that's what you mean by easier, you won't get an argument from me.

IMO, there's no way the Jets win 4 more games than last year. I expect the same record if things fall right for your team.[/QUOTE]

"falling right" by definition would be better play from the QB, RT, run game and pass rush...

Improvements in those areas along with an easier schedule would imply more wins...

Troll on though bro...

10PennyToColes87 · 06-18-2012, 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4494848]But you don't discuss, you dismiss.

Try and think of reasons why the Jets could possibly win the division, without sounding completely biased. Just try.[/QUOTE]

You're asking him to talk football, which he knows **** about. Good luck getting a worthwhile response.

06-18-2012, 09:56 PM	#1
LadainianIMnotDONE All League Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,629	Is winning the division too much of a stretch? Not rhetorical by any means. I'm just trying to get an idea of what some Jet fans expectations are like. I haven't see any talk of winning the division which is good cause people are focused on other area's and etc but what are your expectations going into this season? Seems like everyone here that I see talk about what they expect this season at best is a wild-card birth and possibly trying to make a run cause they think NE is going 14-2 or 13-3 at worst. I think NE's squeaked out wins last year that next year they might not be able to do so. They are still very young on defense, not physical, and who knows if Brady will take a step back. Obviously you still need to beat NE if you're the Jets but I'm not thinking wild card strictly this year like some people I see on the forum. I'm interested to see how this team comes back from what happened last year early on when the season starts.

06-18-2012, 10:01 PM	#2
Wiggy Dork of a Chowd Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dorchester Ma. Posts: 1,952	As long as Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are there the Jets have a minimal shot to win the AFCE. I mean have the Jets won it since Brady has been there? I think in 2005 on a tie breaker was the only time if I'm correct. That Patriots team was the 2nd worst in Belichick's tenure as HC of the NEP. They won only 9 games, the same as the Jets.

06-18-2012, 10:12 PM	#3
Gata JETS! I hate your freaking guts, you make me vomit, you are the scum between my toes. Love, Gata Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 820	We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4 But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :(

06-18-2012, 10:13 PM	#4
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,205	[QUOTE=Gata;4494834]We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4 But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :([/QUOTE] is the Jets schedule harder than the Pats?

06-18-2012, 10:16 PM	#5
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.

06-18-2012, 10:18 PM	#6
Flymax Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 437	a little early for this talk imho how about a winning record?

06-18-2012, 10:24 PM	#7
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,205	[QUOTE=John_0515;4494838]I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.[/QUOTE] It's an interesting topic . which thread would you expect us in? :confused: 1986 Jets vs. Browns

06-18-2012, 10:29 PM	#8
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,305	If Brady were to get injured maybe.

06-18-2012, 10:30 PM	#9
GuidoYaztremski Tuukka Rask!!! All League Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,648	[QUOTE=Gata;4494834]We're going to have a good season at the most we'll probably go 12-4 But this yr the Pats have an easy schedule so inevitably they'll take it :([/QUOTE] The real difference in the schedule is the Pats play the Jets twice and the Jets have to play the Pats. If that's what you mean by easier, you won't get an argument from me. IMO, there's no way the Jets win 4 more games than last year. I expect the same record if things fall right for your team.

06-18-2012, 10:33 PM	#10
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	[QUOTE=John_0515;4494838]I just love how Patriot fans flock to threads like this.[/QUOTE] Because the topic is the jets place in the division, not who is starting at RT for the jets. The pats won 13 games last year and should even be a better team this year, With Lloyd, Gafney, Fells, Fannae and Gregory.

06-18-2012, 10:33 PM	#11
Steelbirds Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 241	Yes, Buzzsaw. I think you're on to something brilliant. If Brady gets injured and Belicheck has amnesia (after game 1) and the Jets score a min of 4 TDs each and every game, then I'd say the Jets have a chance... to tie.

06-18-2012, 10:34 PM	#13
Mohegangreen Truth, Justice and The American Way Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,309	[QUOTE=LadainianIMnotDONE;4494815]Not rhetorical by any means. I'm just trying to get an idea of what some Jet fans expectations are like. I haven't see any talk of winning the division which is good cause people are focused on other area's and etc but what are your expectations going into this season? Seems like everyone here that I see talk about what they expect this season at best is a wild-card birth and possibly trying to make a run cause they think NE is going 14-2 or 13-3 at worst. I think NE's squeaked out wins last year that next year they might not be able to do so. They are still very young on defense, not physical, and who knows if Brady will take a step back. Obviously you still need to beat NE if you're the Jets but I'm not thinking wild card strictly this year like some people I see on the forum. I'm interested to see how this team comes back from what happened last year early on when the season starts.[/QUOTE] Odds are against it, but its possible. If we could have showed up in Foxboro Dec 2010, we would have won the division. Sweep their ass and the division is ours

06-18-2012, 10:35 PM	#15
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	very much so buffalo is better than us right now and the pats are light years ahead.

06-18-2012, 10:36 PM	#16
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,205	[QUOTE=John_0515;4494848]But you don't discuss, you dismiss. Try and think of reasons why the Jets could possibly win the division, without sounding completely biased. Just try.[/QUOTE] I just posted something about sprano before seeing this. So there. :D

06-18-2012, 10:37 PM	#17
bcess Lockin fools up Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ft lauderdale Posts: 1,242	[QUOTE=FF2®;4494850]I.m very interested to see what that Jets O can do under Sparano. He could be the big change the Jets need .[/QUOTE] ????????????????

06-18-2012, 10:42 PM	#18
Redrew Jets Savant Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 317	Don't ignore Buffalo. Last year Buffalo was a .500 team until Fred Jackson went down. They've bolstered a brutal defense this offseason.....they should be a riser. Interesting factoid from 2011....the Jets, Buffalo and Miami were all brutal on the road....young QB syndrome??? Face it.....Brady vs Sanchez.....no way the Jets surpasss NE

06-18-2012, 10:46 PM	#19
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,452	[QUOTE=GuidoYaztremski;4494844]The real difference in the schedule is the Pats play the Jets twice and the Jets have to play the Pats. If that's what you mean by easier, you won't get an argument from me. IMO, there's no way the Jets win 4 more games than last year. I expect the same record if things fall right for your team.[/QUOTE] "falling right" by definition would be better play from the QB, RT, run game and pass rush... Improvements in those areas along with an easier schedule would imply more wins... Troll on though bro...

06-18-2012, 10:47 PM	#20
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,377	[QUOTE=John_0515;4494848]But you don't discuss, you dismiss. Try and think of reasons why the Jets could possibly win the division, without sounding completely biased. Just try.[/QUOTE] You're asking him to talk football, which he knows **** about. Good luck getting a worthwhile response.