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Old 07-19-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
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Tied in Virginia: Romney 44, Obama 44

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Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are now tied in Virginia, according to a new poll by Quinnipiac. Each candidate is receiving support from 44 percent from Virginia voters.


The pollsters note that this signals a sizable shift in Romney's direction: "This compares to a 50 - 42 percent lead for President Obama in a March 20 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University and a 47 - 42 percent Obama lead June 7."


"Virginia voters are sharply split along gender and political lines about the presidential race. The two candidates equally hold their own political bases and are splitting the key independent vote down the middle," Quinnipiac's Peter Brown says.



"One small edge that President Barack Obama has is likability. Voters have a slightly more favorable opinion of the president than they do Gov. Mitt Romney. ... "But neither man is exactly Mr. Popularity: Romney has a negative 39 - 42 percent favorability, compared to Obama's divided 46 - 48 percent. One of them is going to win the White House, but neither would get elected Prom King."


And as Quinnipiac notes, Obama is underwater in the state: "Virginia voters disapprove 51 - 45 percent of the job Obama is doing and say 50 - 47 percent he does not deserves a second term in office."
Virginia has 13 electoral votes.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:56 AM   #2
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This election is going to be very close. It's going to be decided by a few hundred thousand people in a select few states.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:15 AM   #3
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This election is going to be very close. It's going to be decided by a few hundred thousand people in a select few states.
Today's News: June 2012 existing home sales down 5.4%.

I'm beginning to think that economic numbers in the next few months are going to snowball downhill and take Obama's reelection with them.

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Old 07-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #4
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Today's News: June 2012 existing home sales down 5.4%.

I'm beginning to think that economic numbers in the next few months are going to snowball downhill and take Obama's reelection with them.

Certainly possible. It's definitely trending down for Obama at the moment.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:05 PM   #5
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This election is going to be very close. It's going to be decided by a few hundred thousand people in a select few states.
I still think Obama wins, and wins by 5%+ in the final count.

I also thought Patrick Ramsey deserved a starting job and shot with the NYJ. Wtf do I know.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:13 PM   #6
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I also thought Patrick Ramsey deserved a starting job and shot with the NYJ.


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Old 07-19-2012, 01:24 PM   #7
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I still think Obama wins, and wins by 5%+ in the final count.
It's looking more and more doubtful in my opinion. In this day and age, a 5%+ victory in a national election is a blow out, and all indications point to a tight race.

In my opinion, Obama is losing alot of ground due to attacking his opponent rather than implementing policy and laying out a plan moving forward. It's a very poor strategy for an incumbent.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #8
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It's looking more and more doubtful in my opinion. In this day and age, a 5%+ victory in a national election is a blow out, and all indications point to a tight race.

In my opinion, Obama is losing alot of ground due to attacking his opponent rather than implementing policy and laying out a plan moving forward. It's a very poor strategy for an incumbent.

he's done IMO....
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:51 PM   #9
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No record to run on. I think after the olympics Romney is going for Obamas throat. Let see what happens when he is behind. He is spending millions on attack adds and Romney has spent very little.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:04 AM   #10
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I really don't understand how people can like Dumbama personally and not notice how ****ed the economy is. They'll vote for him so they don't hurt his feelings? jeez
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I still think Obama wins, and wins by 5%+ in the final count.

I also thought Patrick Ramsey deserved a starting job and shot with the NYJ. Wtf do I know.
5% Or more, barring a catastrophe.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:21 AM   #12
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It's looking more and more doubtful in my opinion. In this day and age, a 5%+ victory in a national election is a blow out, and all indications point to a tight race.

In my opinion, Obama is losing alot of ground due to attacking his opponent rather than implementing policy and laying out a plan moving forward. It's a very poor strategy for an incumbent.
Yep. But I think their campaign made a conscious decision that they needed to ratchet up the enthusiasm on the far left, the folks who ran to the polls in 2008 and have complained that Obama didn't go far enough for them. Obama needs to match the turnout he got in 2008, when he was a tabula rasa pretty much everyone could project their positions on to. The only way that happens is if he paints Romney as a scary ogre.

My bet? He'll pivot back to the center and start talking policy after the Olympics, when the public's attention focuses on the election for real. You'll see some negative ads during that phase of the campaign, but not the relentless barrage we're seeing now. June and July, for Obama, were about shoring up his base by increasing antipathy to Romney; September, October, and November will be about winning the middle.

It's the only thing that makes sense.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:42 AM   #13
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Today's News: June 2012 existing home sales down 5.4%.

I'm beginning to think that economic numbers in the next few months are going to snowball downhill and take Obama's reelection with them.

Beginning to? The economic numbers have been tanking for 10 months and the economy is not going to turn around in 3 months any more than an aircraft carrier could make a u-turn in the Hudson River.

The government massages data and spins it, the media carries Democratic water, but no matter what the piper must be paid.

Obama's policies are anti-business and he frightens all businesses, except for those with proper Washington representation. Cannot wait until the nation gives its full attention to Mitt Romney on the topic of the economy, a brilliant businessman, live on stage with Barack Obama, failed socialist president.
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I really don't understand how people can like Dumbama personally and not notice how ****ed the economy is. They'll vote for him so they don't hurt his feelings? jeez
The thing about it is, he's not a 'nice' guy. He's a hateful, rotten, evil POS.

He has no redeeming qualities. None.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:35 AM   #15
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I really don't understand how people can like Dumbama personally and not notice how ****ed the economy is. They'll vote for him so they don't hurt his feelings? jeez
The economy will be in a much better state if Romney is the President? Please do share your inside knowledge of this situation, I would love to hear about the jobs that he will create if he does become our President.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:47 AM   #16
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The economy will be in a much better state if Romney is the President? Please do share your inside knowledge of this situation, I would love to hear about the jobs that he will create if he does become our President.
He really can't do worse... This Presidency has essentially had nearly 4 years of stagnant job growth... And that's me being kind about it...
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:56 AM   #17
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Yep. But I think their campaign made a conscious decision that they needed to ratchet up the enthusiasm on the far left, the folks who ran to the polls in 2008 and have complained that Obama didn't go far enough for them. Obama needs to match the turnout he got in 2008, when he was a tabula rasa pretty much everyone could project their positions on to. The only way that happens is if he paints Romney as a scary ogre.

My bet? He'll pivot back to the center and start talking policy after the Olympics, when the public's attention focuses on the election for real. You'll see some negative ads during that phase of the campaign, but not the relentless barrage we're seeing now. June and July, for Obama, were about shoring up his base by increasing antipathy to Romney; September, October, and November will be about winning the middle.

It's the only thing that makes sense.
Very plausible prediction. Personally, I'd rather see an incumbent lead instead of attack at all stages of a campaign.
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