We'll sweep the Pats this year... - Page 9

DDNYjets · 07-24-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Just want to clarify your definition of mediocre.

On the biggest stage in the NFL, Brady went 27/41, 66%, 276 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT and a QB rating of 93.1

Brady and the Pats were one droped pass away from another Super Bowl title.

But in your eyes, that performance was mediocre?

LOL.

I think using this scale, Sanchez' performance would be called "apocalyptic".

Jordy · 07-24-2012, 12:15 PM

What's with the creepy ghey dancing chewbacca wearing a thong bikini???

MnJetFan · 07-24-2012, 12:16 PM

There are allot of if's and's and but's to beat the Pats twice in one season.
But it is still wonderful to hope!

EM31 · 07-24-2012, 12:18 PM

The idea that Tom Brady is playing at a level significantly below his career peak is simply wishful thinking. He hasn't slipped... Yet.

If we want to get on threads and make assertions of this kind just to tweak the tails of our resident Patsie Trolls then I am all for it (Brady SUCKS!!!), but we're all just kidding on that one, right?.

Anyhow, if you can manage to get pressure on Tom Brady then the level of his play comes down to something that is manageable. Put him on his a$$ and he is human. That is true today and it has always been true. Nothing new here.

Plus, when we sweep them this year I want us to have beaten the Pats with their best player, still in his prime and not just because we played against someone who is a shell of his former self.

Spectre · 07-24-2012, 12:22 PM

Pats need as much luck as any other team.

Tuck Rule isn't LUCK. It's a rule.

6th round draft pick. 31 other teams passed on Brady 5 or 6 times.

Pats recently lost 2 SB's on bad luck so they aren't THAT lucky.

Jets must have broken 6 mirrors for their luck to be what it is.

CleatMarks · 07-24-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Just want to clarify your definition of mediocre.

On the biggest stage in the NFL, Brady went 27/41, 66%, 276 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT and a QB rating of 93.1

Brady and the Pats were one droped pass away from another Super Bowl title.

But in your eyes, that performance was mediocre?

Other players slipping into mediocrity

Aaron Rodgers last playoff game
26/46 56.5% 264 yards 2 TDs 1 Int QB rating 78.5

Drew Brees last playoff game
40/63 63.5% 462 yards 4 TD 2 Int rating 93.5

The Pigs are ripe for the slaughter!

PatsFanTX · 07-24-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

Jets must have broken 6 mirrors for their luck to be what it is.

Wait a second, you don't think the Jets were lucky in 2009 when the Colts and Bengals sat all their starters in weeks 16 and 17 and the Jets ended up backing into the playoffs as the 6th seed?

EM31 · 07-24-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

Pats need as much luck as any other team.

Tuck Rule isn't LUCK. It's a rule.

6th round draft pick. 31 other teams passed on Brady 5 or 6 times.

Pats recently lost 2 SB's on bad luck so they aren't THAT lucky.

Jets must have broken 6 mirrors for their luck to be what it is.

...and 32 of then at least 4 or 5 times.

Kudos for the 6th round flyer panning out but really if you had any idea whatsoever you are not relying on those other teams to pass on him 5 or 6 times. The Pats were EXTRAORDINARILY lucky on the Brady pick. It is probably the biggest single stroke of luck in the history of the NFL.

EM31 · 07-24-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Wait a second, you don't think the Jets were lucky in 2009 when the Colts and Bengals sat all their starters in weeks 16 and 17 and the Jets ended up backing into the playoffs as the 6th seed?

No luck involved. The Jets were starting to get to Manning before the end of the half and the Colts implosion was a mortal lock at that point. Manning or no Manning

Edited to add that we crushed the Bengals first team a week later so I doubt there is any merit to the idea that they eased up on us and let us into the playoffs.

Plus you know the old saying "it doesn't matter how you got there" once you are there. This is true of course unless the way that you got there involves cheating as it has with the Patriots. In that case it does indeed count how you got there even if a friendly commissioner hands down a cream-puff punishment.

DDNYjets · 07-24-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Wait a second, you don't think the Jets were lucky in 2009 when the Colts and Bengals sat all their starters in weeks 16 and 17 and the Jets ended up backing into the playoffs as the 6th seed?

You have a point. But one can argue that any "break" or "good luck" the Jets get serves only to make the inevitable heartbreak even worse.

DDNYjets · 07-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CleatMarks

Other players slipping into mediocrity

Aaron Rodgers last playoff game
26/46 56.5% 264 yards 2 TDs 1 Int QB rating 78.5

Drew Brees last playoff game
40/63 63.5% 462 yards 4 TD 2 Int rating 93.5

And to think of all the idiots that are gonna to pick them for their fantasy teams.

PatsFanTX · 07-24-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EM31

...and 32 of then at least 4 or 5 times.

Kudos for the 6th round flyer panning out but really if you had any idea whatsoever you are not relying on those other teams to pass on him 5 or 6 times. The Pats were EXTRAORDINARILY lucky on the Brady pick. It is probably the biggest single stroke of luck in the history of the NFL.

BB and the Pats knew Brady was going to be a great, HOF NFL QB.

They also realized the other 31 teams would continue to pass on Brady (because they aren't as smart as the Pats).

BB and the Pats did not want to select Brady before the 6th round so they could save money on his rookie contract.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Pats had a great drafting strategy in place when it came to Brady.

Untouchable · 07-24-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PETER PAT

Well the Pats have a much higher win % after spygate than before,a nd they have gone to two SB, losing in the last seconds. Before they won 3 Sbs in the last seconds,. all 5 games were close, they won 3 and lost 2, so I am not seeing your point. The win at a better rate now, than they ever did. Unless you think they only game they ever used whatever perceived advantage was the SB.

Not to mention, if you even believe Spygate had an advantage. (Which btw, no NFL coach has said is true, and in fact most have said it is what they do in the NFL), it affected the offense.

Well the Pats offensive production has been off the charts since spygate, scoring at the greatest rate in NFL history for 5 years, and having the most yards ever in the NFL over 5 years, so not only has it improved since spygate, it has shattered records.

So yeah it must have been a real advantage before, and the Pats have been struggling so much without it.

I mostly agree.

But I'll never understand these people who say that Spygate never gave the Pats any kind of advantage. I saw the one segment they showed from the tapes. Filming signals and formations then panning up to the scoreboard for down and distance.

If the Pats weren't gaining an advantage, then why the hell were they doing it in the first place? For sh*ts and giggles? Why would they risk massive fines and loss of draft picks over something that wasn't helping them whatsoever? That makes zero sense.

JJJetfan · 07-24-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

BB and the Pats knew Brady was going to be a great, HOF NFL QB.

They also realized the other 31 teams would continue to pass on Brady (because they aren't as smart as the Pats).

BB and the Pats did not want to select Brady before the 6th round so they could save money on his rookie contract.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Pats had a great drafting strategy in place when it came to Brady.

You're a giant troll, but that's pretty funny.

DDNYjets · 07-24-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

BB and the Pats knew Brady was going to be a great, HOF NFL QB.

They also realized the other 31 teams would continue to pass on Brady (because they aren't as smart as the Pats).

BB and the Pats did not want to select Brady before the 6th round so they could save money on his rookie contract.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Pats had a great drafting strategy in place when it came to Brady.

I completely agree.

And don't forget that they didn't want to upset Bledsoe, so waiting until the 6th made perfect sense.

Most brilliant move of all-time.

Spectre · 07-24-2012, 12:49 PM

Having Drew Bledsoe as starter on the roster also might have weighed just a tad on their selecting a QB that late in the draft.

sec.101row23 · 07-24-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJetfan

You're a giant troll, but that's pretty funny.

Actually he is a Patriot troll.

PatsFanTX · 07-24-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJetfan

You're a giant troll, but that's pretty funny.

EM31 · 07-24-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

BB and the Pats knew Brady was going to be a great, HOF NFL QB.

They also realized the other 31 teams would continue to pass on Brady (because they aren't as smart as the Pats).

BB and the Pats did not want to select Brady before the 6th round so they could save money on his rookie contract.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Pats had a great drafting strategy in place when it came to Brady.

All strong points. Clearly the mad professor was thinking seventeen moves ahead of the rest of us even then.

PatsFanTX · 07-24-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EM31

All strong points. Clearly the mad professor was thinking seventeen moves ahead of the rest of us even then.

Exactly, who can't see from this pic that Brady was going to be a HOF QB?

07-24-2012, 12:15 PM	#162
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	What's with the creepy ghey dancing chewbacca wearing a thong bikini???

07-24-2012, 12:16 PM	#163
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,313	There are allot of if's and's and but's to beat the Pats twice in one season. But it is still wonderful to hope!

07-24-2012, 12:18 PM	#164
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,311	The idea that Tom Brady is playing at a level significantly below his career peak is simply wishful thinking. He hasn't slipped... Yet. If we want to get on threads and make assertions of this kind just to tweak the tails of our resident Patsie Trolls then I am all for it (Brady SUCKS!!!), but we're all just kidding on that one, right?. Anyhow, if you can manage to get pressure on Tom Brady then the level of his play comes down to something that is manageable. Put him on his a$$ and he is human. That is true today and it has always been true. Nothing new here. Plus, when we sweep them this year I want us to have beaten the Pats with their best player, still in his prime and not just because we played against someone who is a shell of his former self.

07-24-2012, 12:22 PM	#165
Spectre N40 48.79182 W74 4.48859 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 573	Pats need as much luck as any other team. Tuck Rule isn't LUCK. It's a rule. 6th round draft pick. 31 other teams passed on Brady 5 or 6 times. Pats recently lost 2 SB's on bad luck so they aren't THAT lucky. Jets must have broken 6 mirrors for their luck to be what it is.

07-24-2012, 12:49 PM	#176
Spectre N40 48.79182 W74 4.48859 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 573	Having Drew Bledsoe as starter on the roster also might have weighed just a tad on their selecting a QB that late in the draft.