Would you Trade Revis For....

kennyo7 · 07-17-2012, 08:02 PM

A friend of mine asked if I would consider trading Revis if he decides to be a prik and hold out again.

He offered me this trade scenarion....would you take it?

Revis to the Lions for Riley Reiff, their 2013 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick and 2014 1st round pick.

Unless i was confident I could sign him long term (remember he can not be franchised) then I would consider taking this.

Apache 51 · 07-17-2012, 08:06 PM

Yes, Revis is good and he compensates for some of the teams shortcomings, but that is to good to pass up. Sorry my brother but you ass in Detroit now.

DDNYjets · 07-17-2012, 08:12 PM

You are going to get flamed but I will play along.

Yes I would. But the Lions would not do that. That would essentially be 3 #1s they would be giving up for him. Also, they are going to have to pay some of their own guys soon. Stafford and Suh are going to command big contracts.

The most I think Revis would get us is 2 #1s b.c whoever trades for him knows he is going to demand a huge salary and that he is a threat to holdout.

I hope he plays well this year and the Jets can get him extended at a reasonable price. Another thing to consider is any team that trades for him is likely going to a contender and if they play well with him the #1 picks we get may end up being at the end of the round. So the likelihood we get anything close to equal value if very remote.

But if they think they can't extend him, then I hope they get the best deal possible for him and use those picks to either move up for a real blue-chip player or just get a bunch of quality first-round players.

NY2FLDWC85 · 07-17-2012, 08:14 PM

Only way I'm willing to see Revis traded is if it's for 3 first round draft picks. Even then, those picks aren't guaranteed to become successful players. Long story short, I hope to see Revis retire a Jet. He's not only the greatest Jet of all-time, but he's also the greatest defensive football player in today's NFL. What makes this scary, is that he's only 27 years of age. Hopefully we never trade Revis.

ASG0531 · 07-17-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NY2FLDWC85

Only way I'm willing to see Revis traded is if it's for 3 first round draft picks. Even then, those picks aren't guaranteed to become successful players. Long story short, I hope to see Revis retire a Jet. He's not only the greatest Jet of all-time, but he's also the greatest defensive football player in today's NFL. What makes this scary, is that he's only 27 years of age. Hopefully we never trade Revis.

That would be close to my personal price, but has any player commanded 3 1st-rounders in the history of the NFL? This is a silly but interesting discussion.

Nevermind that clearly happened in the Herschel Walker trade... but could that ever happen today?

MagroCrag · 07-17-2012, 08:22 PM

Yeah, I would be on board for this. Revis is definitely in a class of his own, but that haul is too good to pass up.

eaglenj · 07-17-2012, 08:30 PM

Revis is worth a either 2 #1picks and a couple other draft picks or a #1, NFL player, and extra picks.

Ive read a lot of people say that 2 #1s is ridiculous, but look at what the Rams got from the Redskins for a QB that has never played a down in the NFL. Any team that has cap room and a need at CB would consider taking him on. Plus he could agree to a long term deal beforehand.

This deal also makes a lot more sense to us now then it did 3 years ago now that there is a rookie salary cap.

I can't think of a trade in recent memory where a player of Revis talent and age was moved...so to say 2 #1picks is too much is crazy.

As for this thread.....detroit is not a bad match, but the play there would be cliff avril as they can't afford to sign him to a long term deal. We don't need another DE on paper, but he could help out if we can play wilkerson or coples at DT.

Dallas could have been another potential destination.....anthony spencer and one of their WRs will probably be available, maybe even Dez if he keeps up his act out there, but they have carr and clairborne now.

EIther way, if he holds out for a 3rd time.....the 2nd time being under contract, I'm ready to move him.

Limolady · 07-17-2012, 08:34 PM

The only thing I would ever trade Revis for is a guaranteed SuperBowl win for the Jets. Preferably with Darrelle still on the team.

Some of you people are crazy to even suggest trading him. Everybody is showing up in Cortland next week and it's back to the business of winning. We need him to accomplish the end game and get the Jets a ring.

Buzzsaw · 07-17-2012, 08:36 PM

LOL hell no. We're going to start looking ahead to 2018 when those players we draft are coming into their prime? Half of them will bust anyways, at least.

TheMo · 07-17-2012, 08:38 PM

This would be a great way to hedge our bets. We improve the OL pretty well. Then if Sanchez doesn't play up to par, we have the ammo to move up and try to get a top level signal caller. If Sanchez improves like I think he can, we can reload the defense and plug a bunch of holes with top tier prospects.

Buzzsaw · 07-17-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglenj

Revis is worth a either 2 #1picks and a couple other draft picks or a #1, NFL player, and extra picks.

Ive read a lot of people say that 2 #1s is ridiculous, but look at what the Rams got from the Redskins for a QB that has never played a down in the NFL. Any team that has cap room and a need at CB would consider taking him on. Plus he could agree to a long term deal beforehand.

This deal also makes a lot more sense to us now then it did 3 years ago now that there is a rookie salary cap.

I can't think of a trade in recent memory where a player of Revis talent and age was moved...so to say 2 #1picks is too much is crazy.

As for this thread.....detroit is not a bad match, but the play there would be cliff avril as they can't afford to sign him to a long term deal. We don't need another DE on paper, but he could help out if we can play wilkerson or coples at DT.

Dallas could have been another potential destination.....anthony spencer and one of their WRs will probably be available, maybe even Dez if he keeps up his act out there, but they have carr and clairborne now.

EIther way, if he holds out for a 3rd time.....the 2nd time being under contract, I'm ready to move him.

Dez Bryant? You think we should consider trading Revis for Dez Bryant???

sg3 · 07-17-2012, 08:47 PM

YOU DON'T TRADE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL AND A SURE HOFer in his prime

UNLESS YOU ARE A MORON

period

eaglenj · 07-17-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

Dez Bryant? You think we should consider trading Revis for Dez Bryant???

Slow down.....I mentioned bryant as a young, talented player who could be packaged in a deal for revis.

Are you saying that you would turn down morris clairborne, bryant and a #1 for revis?

eaglenj · 07-17-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

YOU DON'T TRADE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL AND A SURE HOFer in his prime

UNLESS YOU ARE A MORON

period

What is said player is not a QB, nor a pass rusher and he wants to be paid like a QB or pass rusher?

Revis is amazing, best defensive player in the NFL IMO, but there is more to it then that, as he isn't the "most valuable defensive player in the nfl". He can't affect a play on every down like a DE/OLB or QB. Yes he can take a WR out of a play but that is only 1 of 11. A pass rusher can impact the entire offense.

Also, look at the makeup of the team after you pay Revis $18-20 million a year.

There is more to it then just "he is the best"....the organization has 53 players to think about, they aren't fans.

heymangold · 07-17-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglenj

Slow down.....I mentioned bryant as a young, talented player who could be packaged in a deal for revis.

Are you saying that you would turn down morris clairborne, bryant and a #1 for revis?

yes. i would turn that down. claibourne is unproven, and bryant is a douche. revis is in a class of his own, and unless we're getting 3 #1's, no deals.

patman · 07-17-2012, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg3

YOU DON'T TRADE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL AND A SURE HOFer in his prime

UNLESS YOU ARE A MORON

period

What if he wants 6 years and 100 mill with a 45 SB in 2013, do you keep him for one more year or get what you can. To me a trade partner could be KC as they have the cap room and lost Carr this year.

Justin Houston, Tony Moeki, and a first and 2nd.

DDNYjets · 07-17-2012, 10:25 PM

Nobody is giving 3 #1s for a non-QB who they are then going to have to pay a ransom to keep.

Jets_Penguin · 07-17-2012, 10:32 PM

We will NEVER get three 1's for Revis unless Dolan decides to buy an NFL franchise and we trade with him. Revis for all his greatness demands so much that eventually he does more harm than good because there is only so much money to go around. He would have been fantastic in the days before the salary cap but in todays NFL greedy players, best or not, HOF'ers or not will still hurt a teams financial ability to bring other players. He doesnt play 1 on 11 so as much as I love him ANYBODY can be had for the right price................

That being said he wont be holding out this year so this is a conversation for next year.

Astoria · 07-17-2012, 11:51 PM

The time to trade Revis is now. Keep the roster stocked with young, cheap talent. It's how organizations maintain success. Hoarding Revis and hoping he doesn't walk in FA is a fool's game. Even if he returns, 15 mil for a CB is going to keep us shopping at the Free Agent Bargain Basement for years to come.

Two 1sts and a 2nd would do, maybe throw in a viable starter and change the 2nd to a later round pick.

jetglass · 07-18-2012, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglenj

What is said player is not a QB, nor a pass rusher and he wants to be paid like a QB or pass rusher?

Revis is amazing, best defensive player in the NFL IMO, but there is more to it then that, as he isn't the "most valuable defensive player in the nfl". He can't affect a play on every down like a DE/OLB or QB. Yes he can take a WR out of a play but that is only 1 of 11. A pass rusher can impact the entire offense.

Also, look at the makeup of the team after you pay Revis $18-20 million a year.

There is more to it then just "he is the best"....the organization has 53 players to think about, they aren't fans.

Not sure I agree with you on this. Revis automatically takes out the opposing team's #1 receiver, regardless if you put him in motion. But there are certain ways to limit the impact of a pass rushing beast DE or OLB. You can put an extra tight end or running back on him. The great DE or LB can still beat double teams, but not close to as consistently as he can beat you 1 on 1. There is really nothing you can do against Revis to avoid having him take out your #1 receiver.

07-17-2012, 08:12 PM	#3
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,244	You are going to get flamed but I will play along. Yes I would. But the Lions would not do that. That would essentially be 3 #1s they would be giving up for him. Also, they are going to have to pay some of their own guys soon. Stafford and Suh are going to command big contracts. The most I think Revis would get us is 2 #1s b.c whoever trades for him knows he is going to demand a huge salary and that he is a threat to holdout. I hope he plays well this year and the Jets can get him extended at a reasonable price. Another thing to consider is any team that trades for him is likely going to a contender and if they play well with him the #1 picks we get may end up being at the end of the round. So the likelihood we get anything close to equal value if very remote. But if they think they can't extend him, then I hope they get the best deal possible for him and use those picks to either move up for a real blue-chip player or just get a bunch of quality first-round players. Last edited by DDNYjets; 07-17-2012 at 08:15 PM.

07-17-2012, 08:34 PM	#8
Limolady Here On A "Need To Know" Basis. Jets Insider VIP Super*****/Prom Queen Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,399	The only thing I would ever trade Revis for is a guaranteed SuperBowl win for the Jets. Preferably with Darrelle still on the team. Some of you people are crazy to even suggest trading him. Everybody is showing up in Cortland next week and it's back to the business of winning. We need him to accomplish the end game and get the Jets a ring. Last edited by Limolady; 07-17-2012 at 08:36 PM.

07-17-2012, 08:02 PM	#1
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,402	Would you Trade Revis For.... A friend of mine asked if I would consider trading Revis if he decides to be a prik and hold out again. He offered me this trade scenarion....would you take it? Revis to the Lions for Riley Reiff, their 2013 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick and 2014 1st round pick. Unless i was confident I could sign him long term (remember he can not be franchised) then I would consider taking this.

07-17-2012, 08:06 PM	#2
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,624	Yes, Revis is good and he compensates for some of the teams shortcomings, but that is to good to pass up. Sorry my brother but you ass in Detroit now.

07-17-2012, 08:14 PM	#4
NY2FLDWC85 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 898	Only way I'm willing to see Revis traded is if it's for 3 first round draft picks. Even then, those picks aren't guaranteed to become successful players. Long story short, I hope to see Revis retire a Jet. He's not only the greatest Jet of all-time, but he's also the greatest defensive football player in today's NFL. What makes this scary, is that he's only 27 years of age. Hopefully we never trade Revis.

07-17-2012, 08:22 PM	#6
MagroCrag Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 824	Yeah, I would be on board for this. Revis is definitely in a class of his own, but that haul is too good to pass up.

07-17-2012, 08:30 PM	#7
eaglenj All League Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,838	Revis is worth a either 2 #1picks and a couple other draft picks or a #1, NFL player, and extra picks. Ive read a lot of people say that 2 #1s is ridiculous, but look at what the Rams got from the Redskins for a QB that has never played a down in the NFL. Any team that has cap room and a need at CB would consider taking him on. Plus he could agree to a long term deal beforehand. This deal also makes a lot more sense to us now then it did 3 years ago now that there is a rookie salary cap. I can't think of a trade in recent memory where a player of Revis talent and age was moved...so to say 2 #1picks is too much is crazy. As for this thread.....detroit is not a bad match, but the play there would be cliff avril as they can't afford to sign him to a long term deal. We don't need another DE on paper, but he could help out if we can play wilkerson or coples at DT. Dallas could have been another potential destination.....anthony spencer and one of their WRs will probably be available, maybe even Dez if he keeps up his act out there, but they have carr and clairborne now. EIther way, if he holds out for a 3rd time.....the 2nd time being under contract, I'm ready to move him.

07-17-2012, 08:36 PM	#9
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,298	LOL hell no. We're going to start looking ahead to 2018 when those players we draft are coming into their prime? Half of them will bust anyways, at least.

07-17-2012, 08:38 PM	#10
TheMo All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,346	This would be a great way to hedge our bets. We improve the OL pretty well. Then if Sanchez doesn't play up to par, we have the ammo to move up and try to get a top level signal caller. If Sanchez improves like I think he can, we can reload the defense and plug a bunch of holes with top tier prospects.

07-17-2012, 08:47 PM	#12
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,368	YOU DON'T TRADE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL AND A SURE HOFer in his prime UNLESS YOU ARE A MORON period

07-17-2012, 10:25 PM	#17
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,244	Nobody is giving 3 #1s for a non-QB who they are then going to have to pay a ransom to keep.

07-17-2012, 10:32 PM	#18
Jets_Penguin Bench Sanchez- DONE, Fire Tanny- DONE and Rex, DRAFT a QB, Hire new coach and GM- DONE...start fresh Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The ZONE, Az Posts: 882	We will NEVER get three 1's for Revis unless Dolan decides to buy an NFL franchise and we trade with him. Revis for all his greatness demands so much that eventually he does more harm than good because there is only so much money to go around. He would have been fantastic in the days before the salary cap but in todays NFL greedy players, best or not, HOF'ers or not will still hurt a teams financial ability to bring other players. He doesnt play 1 on 11 so as much as I love him ANYBODY can be had for the right price................ That being said he wont be holding out this year so this is a conversation for next year.

07-17-2012, 11:51 PM	#19
Astoria Bababa basketball, gimme gimme gimme the ball because I'm gonna dunk it Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,746	The time to trade Revis is now. Keep the roster stocked with young, cheap talent. It's how organizations maintain success. Hoarding Revis and hoping he doesn't walk in FA is a fool's game. Even if he returns, 15 mil for a CB is going to keep us shopping at the Free Agent Bargain Basement for years to come. Two 1sts and a 2nd would do, maybe throw in a viable starter and change the 2nd to a later round pick.