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Jets had it tough in 2011
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still a rookie after 4 years. should be SanchezFL
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Good article thanks. Who wrote it?
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...-anomaly-trend It's a grantland article of course, like most good sports articles turn out to be. Hardly mainstream because the mouth breathing masses prefer shallow articles about holdouts and religious fundamentalists; this article would never have made the espn.com main directory. |
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Usually homerism/optimism is unsubstantiated late in July, but this article really helps prove that the Jets had just an awful run of luck in 2011. Now, we did have great luck in 09 and 10 so perhaps it evens out. But these parts, in particular, are stunning:
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REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK
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how dare there be a legitimate article remotely positive about the Jets!!!
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in Section 135, Row 28.
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It should also be noted that opponents kicked FGs at a 97% clip last year and we were 28th in the league in fumble recovery %. Both stats should expect a significant regression.
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Good article. Also deserving of mention is the ridiculous number of special teams turnovers we had as well as the fact that opponents converted something like 31 of 32 FG attempts (the league average is around 80%). Like another poster said a regression to the mean, even if it just equates to 1-2 extra wins, will put us right back in mix. All the negativity surrounding this team is crazy, I fully expect a return to 2010 form.. And the defense has the potential to be even better.
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it was written by Bill Barnwell, formally with football outsiders. if you've ever heard him on the BS Report or read his midseason blogs/articles, he's never this positive towards the Jets. He's not a Pats homer like Simmons or Aaron Shatz, his fper boss at FO, but he's never really been a fan of the Jets or anything either. This was a shockingly positive article from him. And even more shockingly, Schatz tweeted the link singing it's praises.
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...long time reader/lurker, part-time poster,
lifelong Jet fan.
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That article states very well all the things that I think about. Amazing how everyone can actually believe:
- How the D got blamed for Schitty's '3-and-out-or-turnover-for-TD-parade' and the D will be worse than ever despite being on the field so much and the O will be equally inept or worse now that the laughable Schitty offense is gone. - How injuries will always happen for some players and teams and never happen for other players and teams. - How none of our draft picks and free agents will make an impact at all and or they will be teh suck, while draft picks and free agents for other teams will have positive impact and will all doubtlessly be great. I understand we are all (well, most of us) are long-suffering Jets fans, but to believe the above pessimistic statements without question is being a loser (by admitting defeat just because we don't have Brady or Rogers or something), and - as the above article displays - statistically improbable. We have one of the most talented core football teams in the NFL. It's just about staying healthy, playing smart, protecting the football, keeping the D fresh, executing plays, and getting hot at the right time to win. All those things won't go bad again like they ALL did last year. Nor will all the things that went right for other teams will happen again. Calling it again -- Pats will be worse this year then last. Statistically speaking, the odds are they will be down and they are due for a significant injury or unforseen circumstances with a D that blows that bad, it spells disaster. Last edited by ChrisChrusher#40; 07-26-2012 at 12:07 AM. |
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Nothing in that article should be a shock to anyone.
We all said last year that the defensive struggles were a result of an offense that left them on the field to long or forced them into defending a short field because of turnovers. So despite the premise of the article that the defense should play better this year....it's all going to come down to how our offense does. |
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One stat I haven't seen is our slow starts last year. Seemed like the O never woke up until at least the 2nd quarter. Maybe a 9pm curfew the day before games to reduce hang overs is the answer.
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in Section 135, Row 28.
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you mean since they hired Sh!tforbrains
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Believes Sloppy Guy was involved
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Heal up Darrelle...
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Thing about this article... I don't need a stats guy who clearly did not watch all our team's games last year to tell me in July 2012 how awesome my fave team's D was in 2011 after he crunched some numbers. Our D blew it plenty of times in big moments. They didn't force a lot of turnovers. They didn't have a dominant pass rusher. It was in my opinion by far the worst D Rex has fielded in his 3 seasons.
Just look at our performances against the Pats. They shredded us both games last year. In the previous 2 years, our D had shut them down bigtime in certain games. The D was a FAIL by Rex's standards last season. Let's hope it improves. If not, I guess Barnwell can tell us how awesome we were again in July 2013 |
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Now is the time...
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"They didn't force a lot of turnovers." We finished tied for 5th in takeaways. You could do with looking at some more numbers, numbers like DVOA, which can't be calculated from examining a box score. FO goes through every play of every game, assigning a value to each based on the outcome. DVOA is how far above or below the average a team is on a per play basis, with an adjustment made for the strength of the opponent. |
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