Darrelle Revis' battle with Jets isn't over

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 03:53 PM

Darrelle Revis' battle with Jets isn't over despite plans for punctuality at camp
19 hours ago
Jason Cole
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--da...-at-camp-.html

Don't be fooled, for all is not well on the Darrelle Revis front.

New York Jets fans were relieved to read and hear over the weekend that Revis, the team's top cornerback, will report to training camp on time Thursday, avoiding the third contract snafu of his still-young career. Between his rookie season and the 2010 campaign, Revis and agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod have done plenty of sitting in pursuit of a new contract. That's why there was belief that Revis would holdout again. The will he/won't he guessing game went on for months, accentuated by the fact that Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum refused multiple attempts by Schwartz and Feinsod to set up a meeting to discuss a new deal, according to sources familiar with the circumstances. Darrelle Revis, pictured in team workouts in June, plans to show up on time this week at Jets training camp. ( …

Revis was never planning to holdout. The risk of having to return $18 million in signing bonus money under the new rules of the collective bargaining agreement was too large. But just as the Jets wouldn't talk to his agents, Revis wasn't going to let the team know his true intentions. Instead, it was about letting the team twist in the wind a little.

This tempest figures to nix any chance of Revis being a "Jet for life," as he tweeted in mid-July. Sure, Revis has two years remaining on the deal the Jets gave him in 2010. Between this season and next, he'll make $14 million, the final seasons of a four-year, $46 million extension. Revis can't be franchised when this deal is done. So once the 2013 campaign ends, Revis will be 28 and ready to hit the open market. Based on the fractured relationship between the Jets and Revis' agents, it's hard to imagine things going well.

As a Jets source put it this week, "You work on the things you can fix." The Jets aren't working to fix this situation now.

That doesn't make the Revis camp less culpable. Over the past six years, Schwartz and Feinsod have scorched their relationship with Tannenbaum, calling him a liar publicly and warring with the team over Revis, guard Pete Kendall and tight end Chris Baker. Assessing blame is stupid. Both sides would be better off putting their differences aside and just talking with a focus on the future instead of the annoying past.

The Jets would prefer that Revis at least play one more year before coming back to the table, if not simply play out the deal. That's the conventional wisdom as shown by Calvin Johnson with the Detroit Lions and Drew Brees with the New Orleans Saints.Darrelle Revis had four INTs last season, one of which was returned for a score. (Getty Images)

But with every passing day, the Jets lose a little more leverage. Revis gets closer to becoming a free agent and the price tag rises. By the time Revis gets to the 2014 offseason, don't be surprised if the guaranteed money for him surpasses $60 million. That's the way the market works.

The only thing that can get in the way of that is an injury and the likelihood of that isn't as high for a cornerback.

Fact is, Revis is a great player. Earlier this offseason, Pittsburgh Steelers All-Pro safety Troy Polamalu was talking about his personal all-time team. He and a couple of teammates like to argue over who would win in a fictional game. Polamalu's team was loaded with a bunch of obvious names, from Bruce Smith to Reggie White to Ray Lewis to Ronnie Lott to Deion Sanders. All of the players were retired with one exception: Revis.

Yes, Polamalu put Revis as one of the best cornerbacks in the history of the game after only six years in the league. That's serious respect. That's why it would be wise for the Jets to start listening more. It would also be wise for the Revis camp to put aside its perception of Tannenbaum being the leader of the "dastardly" Jets.

And that's not because the sides are suddenly going to reach a compromise. Revis wants to be paid in the range of the top players in the league, making something around $18 million a year. He wouldn't be wrong to ask for that and the Jets wouldn't be wrong to say no, at least not yet. But it would be healthy if they would actually say it to each other's faces. That's the kind of discussion that can lead to a productive relationship.

Not the battle of silence that's happening now.

[no doubt this story will dominate the offseason next year. revis' agents are nasty mofos. it is a good question though if the jets will be willing to be held for a king's ransom ($18M for a CB! wtf!) negotiations always seem to get ugly around schwartz and feinsod so i'm not looking forward to it that's for sure. i'm going on record now saying the jets will trade revis next year rather than sign him to some ridiculous contract.]

JetsCrazey · 07-26-2012, 03:57 PM

$18m for a CB is absurb. $14-15mm per year max

doggin94it · 07-26-2012, 04:00 PM

They'll talk next offseason.

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by doggin94it

They'll talk next offseason.

CAN'T WAIT!!!

Untouchable · 07-26-2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

$18m for a CB is absurb. $14-15mm per year max

Of course it's absurd.

Yet you have Jets fans who say we should give him whatever he wants just so we can brag about having "the best CB in the league".

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untouchable

Of course it's absurd.

Yet you have Jets fans who say we should give him whatever he wants just so we can brag about having "the best CB in the league".

how will the jets refuse revis top 5 money and a long contract? on the other hand who would trade for revis knowing the kind of money he commands? tannenbaum will be in a pickle with this one. (O.O)

sec.101row23 · 07-26-2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untouchable

Of course it's absurd.

Yet you have Jets fans who say we should give him whatever he wants just so we can brag about having "the best CB in the league".

I agree. I believe the market for CBs will be a lot less than it was when they re-did his current deal.

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

I agree. I believe the market for CBs will be a lot less than it was when they re-did his current deal.

oh yeah? why is that?

ssp242 · 07-26-2012, 04:08 PM

Or Fasano, or whomever across the middle? Answer, no. So let's get 2 guys who can for the price of one Revis. Done

BamaJets · 07-26-2012, 04:09 PM

considering the NFL is now a passing league, wouldn't CBs benefit in salary? Especially great ones like Revis?

They'll re-do it next year. This latest contract will come to nearly $40 mill for 3 years (over 13 mill per season). Revis can deal with this contract for another season.

Jordy · 07-26-2012, 04:10 PM

The common denominator here is Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod. make no mistake about it.

Those two seem to make negotiations with ANY team acrimonious.

Ruby2 · 07-26-2012, 04:10 PM

Jesus tap dancing christ...

So after Revis reports this year, something we all knew would happen, and the media doesn't have its holdout that it so desperately craves and foolishly predicted, they look ahead and go "just wait till next year".

Hacks, all of em.

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp242

Or Fasano, or whomever across the middle? Answer, no. So let's get 2 guys who can for the price of one Revis. Done

so how much would the jets get for revis in a trade? 2 1st rounders? would anyone give up 2 1st rounders for him not to mention his price tag?

Gangrene · 07-26-2012, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untouchable

Of course it's absurd.

Yet you have Jets fans who say we should give him whatever he wants just so we can brag about having "the best CB in the league".

He's the greatest player ever to put on a Jets uniform.

Paying him anything less than 20 million a year is an insult to him ... to me ... to his agent ... to every fan that ever followed the Jets ... my dead grandmother ... the American people ... every poster ever banned from Jets Insider ... to the game of football ... and so on ...

Warfish · 07-26-2012, 04:12 PM

The NFL is a business.

Sometimes in business you lose talent that is either overpriced, or you cannot afford.

News at 11.

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warfish

The NFL is a business.

Sometimes in business you lose talent that is either overpriced, or you cannot afford.

News at 11.

can't just kick him to the sidewalk.

Dimitri_0515 · 07-26-2012, 04:16 PM

He'll get paid next year. Relax Revis.

sec.101row23 · 07-26-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick34125

oh yeah? why is that?

Because the main reason Revis held out when he did was because the stupid contract Nmandi had with the Raiders. As far as I know there isnt another absurd contract out there for a CB that can be used as leverage by Revis.

sec.101row23 · 07-26-2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangrene

He's the greatest player ever to put on a Jets uniform.

Paying him anything less than 20 million a year is an insult to him ... to me ... to his agent ... to every fan that ever followed the Jets ... my dead grandmother ... the American people ... every poster ever banned from Jets Insider ... to the game of football ... and so on ...

LOL....he is not getting a deal worth 20 mil per year. That would be preposterous.

rick34125 · 07-26-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

Because the main reason Revis held out when he did was because the stupid contract Nmandi had with the Raiders. As far as I know there isnt another absurd contract out there for a CB that can be used as leverage by Revis.

except now he won't want just top CB money, he'll want top money for all players.

07-26-2012, 03:53 PM	#1
rick34125 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: that's a signpost up ahead... Posts: 932	Darrelle Revis' battle with Jets isn't over Darrelle Revis' battle with Jets isn't over despite plans for punctuality at camp 19 hours ago Jason Cole http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--da...-at-camp-.html Don't be fooled, for all is not well on the Darrelle Revis front. New York Jets fans were relieved to read and hear over the weekend that Revis, the team's top cornerback, will report to training camp on time Thursday, avoiding the third contract snafu of his still-young career. Between his rookie season and the 2010 campaign, Revis and agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod have done plenty of sitting in pursuit of a new contract. That's why there was belief that Revis would holdout again. The will he/won't he guessing game went on for months, accentuated by the fact that Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum refused multiple attempts by Schwartz and Feinsod to set up a meeting to discuss a new deal, according to sources familiar with the circumstances. Darrelle Revis, pictured in team workouts in June, plans to show up on time this week at Jets training camp. ( … Revis was never planning to holdout. The risk of having to return $18 million in signing bonus money under the new rules of the collective bargaining agreement was too large. But just as the Jets wouldn't talk to his agents, Revis wasn't going to let the team know his true intentions. Instead, it was about letting the team twist in the wind a little. This tempest figures to nix any chance of Revis being a "Jet for life," as he tweeted in mid-July. Sure, Revis has two years remaining on the deal the Jets gave him in 2010. Between this season and next, he'll make $14 million, the final seasons of a four-year, $46 million extension. Revis can't be franchised when this deal is done. So once the 2013 campaign ends, Revis will be 28 and ready to hit the open market. Based on the fractured relationship between the Jets and Revis' agents, it's hard to imagine things going well. As a Jets source put it this week, "You work on the things you can fix." The Jets aren't working to fix this situation now. That doesn't make the Revis camp less culpable. Over the past six years, Schwartz and Feinsod have scorched their relationship with Tannenbaum, calling him a liar publicly and warring with the team over Revis, guard Pete Kendall and tight end Chris Baker. Assessing blame is stupid. Both sides would be better off putting their differences aside and just talking with a focus on the future instead of the annoying past. The Jets would prefer that Revis at least play one more year before coming back to the table, if not simply play out the deal. That's the conventional wisdom as shown by Calvin Johnson with the Detroit Lions and Drew Brees with the New Orleans Saints.Darrelle Revis had four INTs last season, one of which was returned for a score. (Getty Images) But with every passing day, the Jets lose a little more leverage. Revis gets closer to becoming a free agent and the price tag rises. By the time Revis gets to the 2014 offseason, don't be surprised if the guaranteed money for him surpasses $60 million. That's the way the market works. The only thing that can get in the way of that is an injury and the likelihood of that isn't as high for a cornerback. Fact is, Revis is a great player. Earlier this offseason, Pittsburgh Steelers All-Pro safety Troy Polamalu was talking about his personal all-time team. He and a couple of teammates like to argue over who would win in a fictional game. Polamalu's team was loaded with a bunch of obvious names, from Bruce Smith to Reggie White to Ray Lewis to Ronnie Lott to Deion Sanders. All of the players were retired with one exception: Revis. Yes, Polamalu put Revis as one of the best cornerbacks in the history of the game after only six years in the league. That's serious respect. That's why it would be wise for the Jets to start listening more. It would also be wise for the Revis camp to put aside its perception of Tannenbaum being the leader of the "dastardly" Jets. And that's not because the sides are suddenly going to reach a compromise. Revis wants to be paid in the range of the top players in the league, making something around $18 million a year. He wouldn't be wrong to ask for that and the Jets wouldn't be wrong to say no, at least not yet. But it would be healthy if they would actually say it to each other's faces. That's the kind of discussion that can lead to a productive relationship. Not the battle of silence that's happening now. [no doubt this story will dominate the offseason next year. revis' agents are nasty mofos. it is a good question though if the jets will be willing to be held for a king's ransom ($18M for a CB! wtf!) negotiations always seem to get ugly around schwartz and feinsod so i'm not looking forward to it that's for sure. i'm going on record now saying the jets will trade revis next year rather than sign him to some ridiculous contract.]

07-26-2012, 04:08 PM	#9
ssp242 Waterboy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 92	Bottom line. Can he cover Gronknoshirt and Hernandez? Or Fasano, or whomever across the middle? Answer, no. So let's get 2 guys who can for the price of one Revis. Done

07-26-2012, 03:57 PM	#2
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,665	$18m for a CB is absurb. $14-15mm per year max

07-26-2012, 04:00 PM	#3
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,432	They'll talk next offseason.

07-26-2012, 04:09 PM	#10
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	considering the NFL is now a passing league, wouldn't CBs benefit in salary? Especially great ones like Revis? They'll re-do it next year. This latest contract will come to nearly $40 mill for 3 years (over 13 mill per season). Revis can deal with this contract for another season.

07-26-2012, 04:10 PM	#11
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	The common denominator here is Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod. make no mistake about it. Those two seem to make negotiations with ANY team acrimonious.

07-26-2012, 04:10 PM	#12
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,037	Jesus tap dancing christ... So after Revis reports this year, something we all knew would happen, and the media doesn't have its holdout that it so desperately craves and foolishly predicted, they look ahead and go "just wait till next year". Hacks, all of em.

07-26-2012, 04:12 PM	#15
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	The NFL is a business. Sometimes in business you lose talent that is either overpriced, or you cannot afford. News at 11.

07-26-2012, 04:16 PM	#17
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	He'll get paid next year. Relax Revis.