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Old 08-03-2012, 05:59 PM   #1
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Powell too slow, no moves

We specifically need a really fast receiver type back
with great hands, that can catch the bubble screen,
Tony's offense requires this.

Powell might have been able to dominate against week
schools in college, but until he proves himself
against NFL competition, he has done nothing,
this notion that he's great because he has been
successful in a couple of meaningless practices
is ridiculous.

Rex is a great guy, and of course he will support
Powell, but we need a Bruce Harper, or a
Kevin Faulk, even a Ronnie Harmen.

If this thread makes me a homer, then great,
I am then, if Rex stays out of all offensive
player decisions, then I am a homer,
but he has made a series of bonehead
decisions concerning the offense that
could end up costing him his job.

This team could really use another
back, I don't see Mc Night / Green /
Powell as competitive, I want a
guy that moves like Jager.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #2
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:14 PM   #3
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How come nobody knows what a "Homer" is today?!

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Old 08-03-2012, 06:19 PM   #4
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Great! First an Obama thread and now Colin Powell?
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #5
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MY thoughts exactly. Somebody see if Jager is available. We need someone to pick up the blitz. Powell is faster than Kevin Faulk. Faulk was never a great athlete. His greatest asset is being smart. He was almost cut a hundred times, but he always got the job done. They never found anyone they trusted in the big spot.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:27 PM   #6
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i thought everyone said powell was a "home run hitter" and was that speed guy when we drafted him?
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:31 PM   #7
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i thought everyone said powell was a "home run hitter" and was that speed guy when we drafted him?
He has good hands, and he has good top speed, but he's not especially quick, and he's not especially big.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:46 PM   #8
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:48 PM   #9
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Diego - Any RB with 13 carries on his resume needs more time to develop. While it's true that RB's of all positions in football is the easiest to transition into and produce in the NFL, without OTA's and some nagging injuries - last year was pretty much a wash. I think when looking at his highlight reel in college he can be a down the hill between the tackles type of RB who has more than enough game speed to break off long runs. This is something that SG doesn't have - breakaway game speed. You mentioned moves and speed in your comment/post - under the misguided premise that BP doesn't have any.
I suggest you watch the following clip at the 1:00 mark and explain to me what speed and agility (moves) are if these aren't it. He clearly runs past 2 CB's in #4 and #5 while cutting back against the grain and beats them down the field for a 75 yard TD.



In the NFL there is game speed and 40 times. He ran a 4.51 in the combine, not impressive. But good coaches understand that 40 times often mean little once the pads and helmet are on. In this case after playing through last year with little game time and lots of injuries and returning this offseason with a year of seasoning under his belt I can see that his play on the field is probably going to improve. Rex is just stating what he sees and not claiming that he's going to be the starting RB in fact he has mentioned during the pressers that he will see some playing time IF this continues. So homer or not, why you would post this inaccurate post is beyond me.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:50 PM   #10
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Geez, first the Coples is..thread by Shark and now this one....
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:58 PM   #11
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"Rex is a great guy, and of course he will support
Powell, but we need a Bruce Harper, or a
Kevin Faulk, even a Ronnie Harmen."


Diego, the guy you're describing is McKnight. Here's Rex's plan, me thinks:

Shonn Greene #1 RB: Starter, gets the majority of the carries. 18-25 caries/game

Bilal Powell #2 RB: Greene primary replacement. Spells Greene on a couple of series'. Injury replacement for Greene. 4-10 carries/game.

Joe McKnight 3rd Down/Long Yardage RB
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:58 PM   #12
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There is just so much wrong with this opening post, I don't really know where to start.

I agree that Powell has plenty to prove, but your criticism of him is based of what exactly? He has not had the opportunity to show anything yet, other than in practice. He's killing it now. What more do you want from him?

Greene is nothing special, and I'm not his biggest fan, but he's solid enough and I expect he'll have a productive year if he stays healthy. Between him, McKnight, Powell... I think there is a lot of talent there and they have a wide range of skills.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:20 PM   #13
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Powell has potential ... I personally want to see him get 1000 carries this preseason.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:43 PM   #14
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Powell has potential ... I personally want to see him get 1000 carries this preseason.
And eat a skid of Crisco.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:45 PM   #15
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I agree that Powell should be given the chance
to prove it on the field, I personally like backs
to have a burst combined with moves, this
creates big plays, and because reserve backs
usually have a lot of rest, if they have quicks
built in, they can dominate in short spurts,
based on what I've seen of Powell, his
endzone lateral to Slausen, his stooge
like game performance, it looks to me
like Rex forced Tanny to pick this guy,
but they should have checked with guys
the way asked Sanchez if they should
draft Mc Night or not.

The bubble screen isn't in moron Schotty's
playbook so I don't know how Powell looks
coming out of the backfield, my point is
we need an all purpose back in that
third RB slot,

maybe Powell should play piano for
Lynyrd Skynyrd, their piano player,
the great Billy Powell died last year.

I do look forward to watching Powell
in pre season, maybe he can prove
me wrong-

but you have to understand Rex's track
record with offensive players- to date
Holmes is his only good call.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:46 PM   #16
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watch tebow come in as an f back or slot receiver.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:54 PM   #17
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Geez, first the Coples is..thread by Shark and now this one....
Seriously, I could even see the guy's point until he ended with "moves like Jager". Ghey.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:59 PM   #18
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Geez, first the Coples is..thread by Shark and now this one....
Agreed....... The sky is falling.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:00 PM   #19
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I agree that Powell should be given the chance
to prove it on the field, I personally like backs
to have a burst combined with moves, this
creates big plays, and because reserve backs
usually have a lot of rest, if they have quicks
built in, they can dominate in short spurts,
based on what I've seen of Powell, his
endzone lateral to Slausen, his stooge
like game performance, it looks to me
like Rex forced Tanny to pick this guy,
but they should have checked with guys
the way asked Sanchez if they should
draft Mc Night or not.

The bubble screen isn't in moron Schotty's
playbook so I don't know how Powell looks
coming out of the backfield, my point is
we need an all purpose back in that
third RB slot,

maybe Powell should play piano for
Lynyrd Skynyrd, their piano player,
the great Billy Powell died last year.

I do look forward to watching Powell
in pre season, maybe he can prove
me wrong-

but you have to understand Rex's track
record with offensive players- to date
Holmes is his only good call.
Are you typing from a toaster? What the ****.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:34 PM   #20
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"Rex is a great guy, and of course he will support
Powell, but we need a Bruce Harper, or a
Kevin Faulk, even a Ronnie Harmen."


Diego, the guy you're describing is McKnight. Here's Rex's plan, me thinks:

Shonn Greene #1 RB: Starter, gets the majority of the carries. 18-25 caries/game

Bilal Powell #2 RB: Greene primary replacement. Spells Greene on a couple of series'. Injury replacement for Greene. 4-10 carries/game.

Joe McKnight 3rd Down/Long Yardage RB

Geez, that sure scares the $hit out of me
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