Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!
LATEST JI HEADLINES
TOP STORY
New Jets RB Goodson Arrested on Drugs and Weapons
Charges
 
5/16 : Joe McKnight Doesn't Appreciate Questioning His Roster Spot
5/15 : QB Garrard to leave Jets
5/15 : uSTADIUM App Looks to Revolutionize Social Sports Media
5/14 : Idzik's Offensive Game Plan: Depth Along Front Line
Go Back   Jets Insider.com Forums > Main Forums > The Landing Strip: All NY Jets and NFL - 24/7
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

The Landing Strip: All NY Jets and NFL - 24/7 Welcome to the most active NY Jets Messageboard on the internet. Celebrating a decade on the web! Talk about all of your NY Jets and NFL related topics here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-09-2012, 04:41 PM   #1
Salz
Undrafted Free Agent
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 194
This Fox Sports writer should be fired

He has one or two decent points, the rest is a hateful attack on the Jets. Give me a break! http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...to-fail-080812

Jets become NFL's laughingstock

Brawl breaks out during New York Jets practice

UPDATED AUG 9, 2012 10:50 AM ET

It’s Aug. 9, a day before the team’s first preseason game, and I’m declaring the 2012 Jets season dead . . . today.

It’s over, or as we say in New York, “kaput.”

Capish?

The chant, “J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets?” Just replace that with “O-V-E-R, Over, Over, Over.”

I’m not being overly dramatic; I’m being realistic. There’s absolutely no way this team can possibly be a Super Bowl contending squad this year. All 32 teams are undefeated right now and each are still mathematically alive. Well, put away your calculators, Jets fans. Gang Green doesn’t have a chance.

This isn’t me putting a leathery Skip Bayless mask on and this isn’t some way to make headlines — this is me watching a ticking time bomb explode three months before even the biggest pessimists thought it would. The season’s done. DOA. I’m not sure just how much worse it will get, but if I’m a Jets fan, I’m already looking toward next year’s Draft and free-agent class.

After a 20-minute brawl temporarily suspended valuable practice time on Monday, the Jets responded with an encore performance Tuesday — another brouhaha, which led to head coach Rex Ryan halting practice and having his team run “gassers.” In his four years as head coach of the Jets, Ryan had never once had his team run disciplinary wind sprints. This was a first and it wasn’t some old-school sign of authority; it was an act of desperation. Only adding to the comedy (or tragedy) of the situation was the fact that Tim Tebow — the team’s backup quarterback, punt return blocker, and media magnet — finished most of the sprints in first place. The media ran with that storyline, too. Naturally.

In the heart of baseball and election season, the Jets were on both the front and back pages of the New York Daily News on Tuesday and the back page on Wednesday, with the appropriate headline of: “Rocky 2.” And they haven’t played a preseason game yet.

The Tebow stuff has been a media circus, but that was almost expected. What wasn’t expected was the rest of it: the constant fighting, the downright awful play from the receivers, the lack of an even serviceable right tackle, the Antonio Cromartie/Chaz Schilens exchange, the ESPN “SportsCenter” set being transplanted from Bristol to Cortland. The sick part is — I strongly believe that Jets owner Woody Johnson wants it this way. It’s his dream come true. All anybody is doing is talking about the Jets. Playoffs be damned, if the chaos and attention leads to more jerseys sold at Modell’s, more season tickets purchased online — things are OK. Things are trending upward. Though I’m sure Johnson would love to someday hoist the Lombardi Trophy — something the crosstown team’s ownership group has done twice in the past five years — I’m also sure he enjoys waking up each morning and seeing the Jets on those front and back newspaper covers. Hell, he might enjoy the latter more than the thought of the former.

Johnson made me laugh out loud on Tuesday, when he said, he was “surprised” by the amount of attention the Jets are getting this offseason. Johnson is also surprised, apparently, when the sun comes up in the morning and when the sky is the color blue.

Gassers? Really? An NFL team, with 30-year-old men on it, is running wind sprints?

My biggest issue with the 2012 New York Jets isn’t even the extracurricular madness and the three-ring circus that goes into a single training camp practice. It’s the team’s offensive philosophy.

It’s archaic. It’s stale. It’s wrong.

The Jets are building their offensive approach around what Ryan has described as a “Ground and Pound” strategy. Their plan is to control the line of scrimmage and win football games by owning the time of possession and limiting turnovers. Run first, set up the pass.

It’s an approach that worked for the 2000 Baltimore Ravens and the 1990 New York Giants. Unfortunately, the league and the game have changed dramatically since then. Unless New York plans on hopping into a time machine and playing with leather helmets, they’re going to have a hard time winning games with an offensive attack that’s from a bygone era.

The game’s a passing league, now, and it’s worrisome that the Jets don’t seem to realize this. Take a look at last year’s most successful teams. The Patriots, Packers, Giants, Saints, Steelers, Texans and Lions all were among the top passing teams in the NFL. The Baltimore Ravens, ranked 19th in passing yards a season ago, happened to feature the league’s third-ranked defense. The San Francisco 49ers, the lone playoff team that relied significantly more on the run than the pass last season, signed two premier free agents (Randy Moss, Mario Manningham) and used a first-round pick (A.J. Jenkins) to bolster their wide receiver depth this offseason.

The Jets’ passing attack, meanwhile, has gone backwards. Of the 14 wide receivers currently in Jets camp, nine have never recorded an NFL reception. Stephen Hill, a 2012 second-round selection out of Georgia Tech, had just 49 catches playing three seasons in a triple option offense. Jeremy Kerley, the second-year veteran who was expected to make a leap in 2012, has been a great disappointment in camp. Chaz Schilens? Dexter Jackson? Royce Howard? Wes Kemp?

Wes Kemp?!

How are the Jets going to be competitive in any sort of offensive shootout without NFL receivers this season? Time of possession battle or not, Santonio Holmes and Dustin Keller can’t catch 200 balls apiece.

And any comparison to the 2011 49ers is extremely flawed. The Niners boasted the top rush defense in the entire league a year ago, giving up less than 20 yards on the ground per game than the second-best rushing defense team in the league, the Baltimore Ravens. The Jets’ run defense isn’t in that conversation. It’s not even close.


Looking at New York's roster, the team didn't improve at one single position this offseason. And that includes the backup quarterback spot.

They’ll get a lot of press and we’ll certainly tune in to watch them, but they won’t be very good at anything.

In that regard, they’re kind of like the Kardashians.

Of course, Jets management might view that comparison as the ultimate compliment.

R.I.P., 2012 Jets. You never had a chance.
Salz is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-09-2012, 04:51 PM   #2
sect313
Numb
All League
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,614
probably has not been to camp just basing off other dumb journalists
sect313 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #3
shevys
Hmmm
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tucson
Posts: 1,795
The author is an idiot. He's going to compare the Jets and Niners rushing defense, and ignore the fact that teams rushed against the Jets almost 100 times more than they did against the Niners. Why? Because our pass defense was that much better. Total hatchet job.
shevys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:09 PM   #4
jvill 51
All League
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,732
I love how these people say it's impossible for the Jets to win with a "run to set up the pass" philosophy when they rang off 24 wins and 2 AFCCG appearances in 2 years doing that exact thing. Not to mention the fact that if it wasn't for Kyle Williams muffing 2 punts and Lee Evans/Billy Cundiff's complete chokejobs those two defensive oriented teams would have been battling for the Super Bowl last year.

And just out of curiosity, who's the author of this article? I refuse to click on the link to give him the web hits he obviously so desperately desires.
jvill 51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:13 PM   #5
Gangrene
Glad Sparano is gone, on the fence about Mornhinweg..
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Vinegar Hill, Brooklyn ...
Posts: 2,039
It's a mean spirited piece that forgoes any attempt at a fair and balanced article.
Gangrene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:21 PM   #6
NY's stepchild
Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out.
All League
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hawthorne NJ
Posts: 4,709
Sounds like it was written by SARS, or any number of SOJFs we have here.
NY's stepchild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:22 PM   #7
BamaJets
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,777
so sad what happened to journalism. used to be reliable, fact-checking writers (there still are) who cared more about delivering interesting opinions without having to loudmouth their way into getting reader comments at the bottom of his story.


here's the thing with all the media Jet bashers: they know the Jets are in the biggest market and have one of the bigger fan bases in the league. we are an easy target. pick on the Jets and watch the fans comments on your post roll in. "look at all the hits my story got, mr. editor!"
BamaJets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:26 PM   #8
patman
happy to be here
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,152
I like the jets run defense, but they are not as good as the Niners, No way.

The guy took a negative slant and painted everything in the worse light, but what he wrote is not far from the truth.

1. Rex is Pissed
2. Sanchez as of now does not have a professional WR corp.
3. Woody "signed" Tebow for publicity. And since he owned the team was always looking to make a splash.
4. The ground and pound was last used successfully before the change in the rules to favor the passing game.

I can't see how any jet fan can argue against those points. But

A. I take exception to point #4 in that if only one team runs something a lot different The first time around teams will have difficulties with it, whether the scheme is old or new.
B- item one is overstated as only Holmes and Cro refuse to get behind Rex, the rest of the team is not causing issues.
patman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:30 PM   #9
fidelioion
alright
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,493
This is just a writer trying to cash in on the Circus that has become the NYJ.

While it has become a circus it doesn't mean they mean they be good. They have been a circus for three years yet they have won.
fidelioion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:31 PM   #10
patman
happy to be here
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,152
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaJets View Post
so sad what happened to journalism. used to be reliable, fact-checking writers (there still are) who cared more about delivering interesting opinions without having to loudmouth their way into getting reader comments at the bottom of his story.


here's the thing with all the media Jet bashers: they know the Jets are in the biggest market and have one of the bigger fan bases in the league. we are an easy target. pick on the Jets and watch the fans comments on your post roll in. "look at all the hits my story got, mr. editor!"
Why did the jets, who went to Cortland to build unity and such, then invite the ESPN circus to camp. I think Rex and Tanny told Woody no hard knocks, but woody wanted the publicity and compromised and got the circus instead. Woody thinks any publicity is good. Does any one believe him when he said that he did not think Tebow was going to cause a stir? He is keeping the giants off the pages and he is happy.

you invite the media animals into your house then complain when they crap on the carpet.
patman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:34 PM   #11
PatsFanTX
JI Resident Troll
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 52,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by shevys View Post
The author is an idiot.
Yep, fire all the media that would dare to say something negative about the Jets.
PatsFanTX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:49 PM   #12
Demosthenes9
PimpAssedAvatar Thanks McGinley :)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by patman View Post
I like the jets run defense, but they are not as good as the Niners, No way.

The guy took a negative slant and painted everything in the worse light, but what he wrote is not far from the truth.

1. Rex is Pissed
2. Sanchez as of now does not have a professional WR corp.
3. Woody "signed" Tebow for publicity. And since he owned the team was always looking to make a splash.
4. The ground and pound was last used successfully before the change in the rules to favor the passing game.

I can't see how any jet fan can argue against those points. But
1. So what if Rex is pissed ? That's actually a good thing in my book as that was one of his problems in the past, he was to nonchalant about things. They talk about how this is the first time in his 4 years that he's made the team run gassers. Thing is, there were probably times in the past when he SHOULD have made them, but didn't.


2. Won't argue this one, other than to say that I do have some faith in some of the young guys. I think Hill's speed alone will help and I think Jordan White is going to surprise people.

3. Woody/Rex signed Tebow because he adds a lot to the team. Don't want to turn this into a Tebow thread, so I'll leave it at that.

4. As jvill 51 pointed out, the Ravens and the 49'ers have the same basic philosophy and were within 1 mistake each of playing for the Lombardi. Best as I can recall, the Saints, the best passing offense in the NFL, were sitting at home and watching.
Demosthenes9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:51 PM   #13
Beerfish
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 19,066
I love articles like this when posted about teams I cheer for. Bring them on the more the better.
Beerfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:52 PM   #14
Demosthenes9
PimpAssedAvatar Thanks McGinley :)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by patman View Post
Why did the jets, who went to Cortland to build unity and such, then invite the ESPN circus to camp. I think Rex and Tanny told Woody no hard knocks, but woody wanted the publicity and compromised and got the circus instead. Woody thinks any publicity is good. Does any one believe him when he said that he did not think Tebow was going to cause a stir? He is keeping the giants off the pages and he is happy.

you invite the media animals into your house then complain when they crap on the carpet.
If I remember correctly, it was the other way around and ESPN asked the Jets if they could come. Rex said that the practices in question were open to the public, so ESPN could be there if they wanted to, or something to that effect.

Hard Knocks was completely different as the cameras and crew had much more access and they were in the meeting rooms, offices, and everywhere else.
Demosthenes9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:55 PM   #15
BamaJets
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,777
Quote:
Originally Posted by patman View Post
Why did the jets, who went to Cortland to build unity and such, then invite the ESPN circus to camp. I think Rex and Tanny told Woody no hard knocks, but woody wanted the publicity and compromised and got the circus instead. Woody thinks any publicity is good. Does any one believe him when he said that he did not think Tebow was going to cause a stir? He is keeping the giants off the pages and he is happy.

you invite the media animals into your house then complain when they crap on the carpet.
First of all, Woody said he was surprised it was that much coverage.

As a journalist, you are supposed to know what is newsworthy, know your audience. They covered Tebow -- the backup QB as declared by every member of the Jets since the beginning -- from Day 1 of the trade all through summer. Then they show up in masses for training camp forcing us Tebow news by the hour as if any of the fans wanted to hear it. Did you want to hear it? I didn't. And 99% of Jets fans didn't want to hear it either. Again, know your audience, know what's newsworthy. People don't want to hear about the backup QB 24/7. The media thought we did. We didn't. And this lack of news judgement a major flaw in journalism today.

I worked in the sports media for a decade and took pride in what I wrote and what I put in the paper for the readers. I know we are now in an age of instant news and everyone and anyone can report it, but really, most of the time it's you only see what the media wants you to see. So if they only report the TMZ-type stuff about the Jets, well, that's what most of the people are going to believe. Most random NFL fans don't know David Harris is a quiet leader and one of the top ILBs in the league, but they all know the Jets are a "circus" because one guy mopes or they get into a training camp scuffle.

And don't even get me started on this whole keeping the Giants off the back page thing. Those newspapers who consistently put the Jets on the back cover with oh-so clever headlines about the team's "dysfunction" lost their integrity as serious news outlets a long time ago.
BamaJets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:58 PM   #16
shevys
Hmmm
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tucson
Posts: 1,795
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
Yep, fire all the media that would dare to say something negative about the Jets.
You can take your stupid smiley face emoticon and stick it, pal. The article is a hack job and not well researched. If it was fair I'd be ok with it. Declaring any team dead (or this team in particular since I am in fact a fan) before the season starts makes him an idiot in my opinion.
shevys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:58 PM   #17
Peebag
being disappointed since January 13th, 1969
All Pro
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: great midwest -well not so great
Posts: 7,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gangrene View Post
It's a mean spirited piece that forgoes any attempt at a fair and balanced article.
This.
Peebag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:59 PM   #18
Buzzsaw
Jets Insider VIP
Board Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 26,293
If we have a top-3 defense, which is realistic, we'll be in the playoffs. Doesn't matter what else happens.
Buzzsaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 06:00 PM   #19
stanner
All League
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Posts: 2,805
Sensational hyperbole designed to create web hits. That's all. Now it was a 20 minute brawl?!

"20 players, 20 minutes...whatever"...[SEND]
stanner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 06:07 PM   #20
sg3
REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The Big Apple, USA
Posts: 20,345
A truly SARRY piece of hack "journalism"



Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2
sg3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:29 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2013, JetsInsider.com LTD