Vince Young v Tebow

Digetydog · 08-17-2012, 09:38 PM

As a UT grad, I am biased. Watching the Buffalo game on the nfl network. In addition to being a better runner than Tebow, I note that Vince Young has mastered the forward pass. I note that he has won plenty of nfl games where the other team scored double digit points. Playoff games won - yep. Young may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but Teblow can't throw!

In addition to giving up picks, the Jets are probably paying Teblow more money. #Failure

bobby2times · 08-17-2012, 10:07 PM

Gotta disagree with you on Young being a better runner. Young relies on his athleticism when he takes off running, which has sharply declined. Tebow runs with power and breaks tackles like nothing.

Lets not forget the guy is a headcase and looking at his past stats, he isnt that much a better passer than Tebow.

Young is 29 and on the last legs of his career while Tebow is still only 25. I dont know what the point of this thread is but if you're insinuating that the Jets should have picked up Young instead of Tebow to run the wildcat, I think your UT homerism got the best of you.

Kentucky Jet · 08-18-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby2times

Gotta disagree with you on Young being a better runner. Young relies on his athleticism when he takes off running, which has sharply declined. Tebow runs with power and breaks tackles like nothing.

Lets not forget the guy is a headcase and looking at his past stats, he isnt that much a better passer than Tebow.

Young is 29 and on the last legs of his career while Tebow is still only 25. I dont know what the point of this thread is but if you're insinuating that the Jets should have picked up Young instead of Tebow to run the wildcat, I think your UT homerism got the best of you.

AGREED! or its just another useless attack on Tebow for whatever reason.

patman · 08-18-2012, 07:58 AM

Great, just what the jets would need, another guy to quit on the team. I don't think the Tebow signing was a good one, but if it kept the jets from considering
that quitter, Tebow has already paid dividends.

Shark99 · 08-18-2012, 08:02 AM

Vince Young is hot Garbage!

sg3 · 08-18-2012, 08:06 AM

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Vince Young is hot Garbage!

Good point, Schroy48

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Gangrene · 08-18-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Digetydog

As a UT grad, I am biased. Watching the Buffalo game on the nfl network. In addition to being a better runner than Tebow, I note that Vince Young has mastered the forward pass. I note that he has won plenty of nfl games where the other team scored double digit points. Playoff games won - yep. Young may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but Teblow can't throw!

In addition to giving up picks, the Jets are probably paying Teblow more money. #Failure

To support your argument, I don't think that Tim Tebow is that much brighter than Vince Young. I think Vince Young is a much better passer but I still would prefer Tebow over Young. Why? Competitive spirit and will to win.

Tebow is mentally strong. He may have 50% of the US people adoring him but the other 50% are laughing at his mechanics and not to mention his orthodox beliefs. The dude still comes out with a smile and a positive attitude. He is completely unflappable, no member of the press has ever made him angry, the kid is completely composed. Despite having a whack throwing motion he willed a team to the second round of the playoffs.

Tebow in a landslide over Young ... and this is coming from a Sanchez fan.

HoustonJET · 08-18-2012, 01:43 PM

Vince is by far the better skill and talent player, but his demise began when we were in H.S(different H.S., but same area)... Out here we all knew Vince was going to be in the league and people pounced on that... He was always surrounded by "Yes Men" rather than people who would tell him what's real, Mack Brown included... Vince is a good dude, but lacked the direction he needed to stay humble and hungry... As much as I dislike the texans, they actually did a great job in not drafting him... I think he would've had more issues and a higher level of complacency playing in Houston...

10PennyToColes87 · 08-18-2012, 01:47 PM

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#Failure

Please stop. This isn't Twitter.

John_0515 · 08-18-2012, 01:51 PM

I think Tebow is a more physical type runner. He's better suited to run the Wildcat, goal line, short yardage, etc. I agree that Vince Young is a better passer and a more fluid runner.

The biggest factor is that Tebow isn't the headcase Young is, which is why he's on his 3rd team in as many years.

Digetydog · 08-18-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gangrene

To support your argument, I don't think that Tim Tebow is that much brighter than Vince Young. I think Vince Young is a much better passer but I still would prefer Tebow over Young. Why? Competitive spirit and will to win.

Tebow is mentally strong. He may have 50% of the US people adoring him but the other 50% are laughing at his mechanics and not to mention his orthodox beliefs. The dude still comes out with a smile and a positive attitude. He is completely unflappable, no member of the press has ever made him angry, the kid is completely composed. Despite having a whack throwing motion he willed a team to the second round of the playoffs.

Tebow in a landslide over Young ... and this is coming from a Sanchez fan.

You need to watch film of Young beating USC for the national championship by himself. He willed the longhorns to that victory. That was competitive spirit and will to win! As a pro, he won a LOT of games until he had a falling out with a coach who never wanted him. Until that blowup,

Unlike Tebow, Young is an adequate backup to a starter. Why? He can actually throw the ball to the receiver.

If Fitzgerald falters or gets hurt, they can go to Vince and have a shot at winning with the forward pass. If Sachize can't do it, we have to abandoned the forward pass.

Untouchable · 08-18-2012, 02:23 PM

Vince Young has "mastered" the forward pass?

LOL

John_0515 · 08-18-2012, 02:24 PM

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Vince Young has "mastered" the forward pass?

LOL

Let's not push it. LOL.

JB1089 · 08-18-2012, 02:45 PM

Young and Tebow are actually very similar.

I still remember the arguments I had with people during his early years. He had terrible passing numbers, but the Titans kept winning games with him. He led a number of 4th quarter comebacks and people declared him a "winner." They talked about how you couldn't compare him to other quarterbacks because he played the game differently. Young was a unique player, a new kind of quarterback. So it didn't matter that he couldn't throw.

I said it was unsustainable and was eventually proven right. We're going through the same thing with Tebow right now. We have a small sample size from which to evaluate him and defensive coaching staffs are still in the process of figuring out how to defend him (because he is a different kind of quarterback).

Vince Young is actually capable of completing passes, but he's an interception machine, except for the stretch near the end of his run Tennessee. They started out 0-6 with Collins one year, then went 8-2 to end the year with Young as the starter. They got off to a fast start the next year, then the offense sputtered for a few weeks and Fisher had his excuse to put Collins back in.

Digetydog · 08-18-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Vince Young has "mastered" the forward pass?

LOL

Compared to Tebow, Vince is Peyton Manning when it comes to passing skills.

MCBNY · 08-18-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Vince Young has "mastered" the forward pass?

LOL

LOL of the year.

sameoldjets · 08-18-2012, 03:45 PM

the whole tebow thing is certainly interesting. here's a guy who is a much better runner than passer playing in a position where most teams do their utmost to make sure the guy stays upright. the thing the jets need to do is play into tebow's strengths. no mention if he can catch the ball or not. if nothing else, tebow is certainly a football player and that connotes the ability to understand the game and always keep trying. if tebow can catch then he could very well be the second coming of paul hornung. hornung was a qb at nd before being drafted by the pack but he made his fame as a running back/pass receiver.

Buzzsaw · 08-18-2012, 04:16 PM

You can make an argument for either as far as on the field ability, but Tebow's a good teammate and locker room presence, VY not so much.

Dreamers · 08-18-2012, 04:24 PM

I was a Young fan but Tebow wins this on IQ and leadership alone. I wouldn't let Young lead a boy scout troop at this point.

Digetydog · 08-18-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sameoldjets

the whole tebow thing is certainly interesting. here's a guy who is a much better runner than passer playing in a position where most teams do their utmost to make sure the guy stays upright. the thing the jets need to do is play into tebow's strengths. no mention if he can catch the ball or not. if nothing else, tebow is certainly a football player and that connotes the ability to understand the game and always keep trying. if tebow can catch then he could very well be the second coming of paul hornung. hornung was a qb at nd before being drafted by the pack but he made his fame as a running back/pass receiver.

Didn't everyone play the single wing back then? A QB who can't throw doesn't belong on an nfl roster as the key backup!

08-17-2012, 09:38 PM	#1
Digetydog Veteran Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,337	Vince Young v Tebow As a UT grad, I am biased. Watching the Buffalo game on the nfl network. In addition to being a better runner than Tebow, I note that Vince Young has mastered the forward pass. I note that he has won plenty of nfl games where the other team scored double digit points. Playoff games won - yep. Young may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but Teblow can't throw! In addition to giving up picks, the Jets are probably paying Teblow more money. #Failure

08-17-2012, 10:07 PM	#2
bobby2times Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 111	Gotta disagree with you on Young being a better runner. Young relies on his athleticism when he takes off running, which has sharply declined. Tebow runs with power and breaks tackles like nothing. Lets not forget the guy is a headcase and looking at his past stats, he isnt that much a better passer than Tebow. Young is 29 and on the last legs of his career while Tebow is still only 25. I dont know what the point of this thread is but if you're insinuating that the Jets should have picked up Young instead of Tebow to run the wildcat, I think your UT homerism got the best of you.

08-18-2012, 07:58 AM	#4
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	Great, just what the jets would need, another guy to quit on the team. I don't think the Tebow signing was a good one, but if it kept the jets from considering that quitter, Tebow has already paid dividends.

08-18-2012, 08:02 AM	#5
Shark99 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,744	Vince Young is hot Garbage!

08-18-2012, 01:43 PM	#8
HoustonJET I got your back #6!... it's a part of my "AGENDA" Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Great state of TEXAS Posts: 182	Vince is by far the better skill and talent player, but his demise began when we were in H.S(different H.S., but same area)... Out here we all knew Vince was going to be in the league and people pounced on that... He was always surrounded by "Yes Men" rather than people who would tell him what's real, Mack Brown included... Vince is a good dude, but lacked the direction he needed to stay humble and hungry... As much as I dislike the texans, they actually did a great job in not drafting him... I think he would've had more issues and a higher level of complacency playing in Houston...

08-18-2012, 01:51 PM	#10
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	I think Tebow is a more physical type runner. He's better suited to run the Wildcat, goal line, short yardage, etc. I agree that Vince Young is a better passer and a more fluid runner. The biggest factor is that Tebow isn't the headcase Young is, which is why he's on his 3rd team in as many years.

08-18-2012, 02:23 PM	#12
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,404	Vince Young has "mastered" the forward pass? LOL

08-18-2012, 02:45 PM	#14
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,711	Young and Tebow are actually very similar. I still remember the arguments I had with people during his early years. He had terrible passing numbers, but the Titans kept winning games with him. He led a number of 4th quarter comebacks and people declared him a "winner." They talked about how you couldn't compare him to other quarterbacks because he played the game differently. Young was a unique player, a new kind of quarterback. So it didn't matter that he couldn't throw. I said it was unsustainable and was eventually proven right. We're going through the same thing with Tebow right now. We have a small sample size from which to evaluate him and defensive coaching staffs are still in the process of figuring out how to defend him (because he is a different kind of quarterback). Vince Young is actually capable of completing passes, but he's an interception machine, except for the stretch near the end of his run Tennessee. They started out 0-6 with Collins one year, then went 8-2 to end the year with Young as the starter. They got off to a fast start the next year, then the offense sputtered for a few weeks and Fisher had his excuse to put Collins back in.

08-18-2012, 03:45 PM	#17
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,483	the whole tebow thing is certainly interesting. here's a guy who is a much better runner than passer playing in a position where most teams do their utmost to make sure the guy stays upright. the thing the jets need to do is play into tebow's strengths. no mention if he can catch the ball or not. if nothing else, tebow is certainly a football player and that connotes the ability to understand the game and always keep trying. if tebow can catch then he could very well be the second coming of paul hornung. hornung was a qb at nd before being drafted by the pack but he made his fame as a running back/pass receiver.

08-18-2012, 04:16 PM	#18
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,305	You can make an argument for either as far as on the field ability, but Tebow's a good teammate and locker room presence, VY not so much.

08-18-2012, 04:24 PM	#19
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	I was a Young fan but Tebow wins this on IQ and leadership alone. I wouldn't let Young lead a boy scout troop at this point.