Before you can go to the top you have to hit bottom

rmeyer52 · 08-19-2012, 07:54 PM

Like most Jet fans I thought the Giants played at a level that was beyond this current Jets team. While I am not ready to give up on the season it's obvious that this team has a hell of lot of work to do before they can compete with teams like the Giants and Packers.

Watching the Ravens this week I could not help but compare some of their problems with ours. If the Ravens had a better offense and QB they probably could have more rings.

What really bothers me is that the offensive problems this year are a continuation of the problems from last year. It leaves me wondering if Rex has a grasp of offensive strategy and is too ingrained in the defense. If this team continues to have offensive problems than obviously there are deeper issues here that we know about.

As for the OL I agree with other posters who say that his play has started to go down hill. Why Rex and Tanny dont address this is beyond me but Rex needs to stop worrying about being a players coach and call his players in for a comet to Jesus meeting when they underperform.

Obviously we do need help at WR as there isn't any WR who can stretch the field. Opposing teams will continue to bring their LB's in to stop the run while daring the Jets to throw the ball. Same as last year.

I wonder what the decision making is for draft picks? Is it driven by Rex or by Tanny and what is the philosophy behind the picks (i.e. offense vs. defense) and who is held accountable ?

The Patsies are also having their problem on offense but they have a proven SB QB and seem to be able to turn it as the season progresses. Remember that the Giants record last year was 9-7 and they ran the table in the playoffs. Don't throw in the towel yet. As always they will play exciting football and like Sanchez said it's a long season.

Spectre · 08-19-2012, 08:50 PM

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The Patsies are also having their problem on offense but they have a proven SB QB and seem to be able to turn it as the season progresses.

Different animal with Pats. They just got their starting LG back and their starting RT is coming off PUP tommorrow. They are still waiting for their starting RG (Waters) to report to camp.

Jets don't seem to have any flow to their offense so far. Only 2 games but they should be able to show some offense. Maybe shltty wasn't the problem after all?

southparkcpa · 08-19-2012, 08:53 PM

I love that term...LOT OF WORK TO DO.

Bread won't rise without yeast.

We have a yeast infection that may win 7 games. maybe.

srobjets · 08-19-2012, 08:55 PM

rex does not give 2 sh!ts about the o. Never has never will. This guy is a freakin joke of a head coach. 5-11 here we come.

JonEJet · 08-19-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rmeyer52

The Patsies are also having their problem on offense but they have a proven SB QB and seem to be able to turn it as the season progresses.

This guy is a known Patriots fan. Please don't respond to his garbage.

TheMikeIsHot · 08-19-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

We have a yeast infection that may win 7 games. maybe.

LMAO!

ASH_1962 · 08-19-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by srobjets

rex does not give 2 sh!ts about the o. Never has never will. This guy is a freakin joke of a head coach. 5-11 here we come.

I am of the exact same opinion as you. Fish stinks from the head down. Our ST's suck ass too. The only thing that matter is his defense. And we will win between 3-6 games this season.

bigdanNJ · 08-19-2012, 09:32 PM

the jets have been on the bottom for the past 43 yrs. were a joke, and woody is more concerned with media attention, then winning the SB.

bitonti · 08-19-2012, 09:34 PM

there is good news

1) the Jets don't have to play the Giants again this year, except perhaps in the SB (heh heh)

2) preseason losses don't matter. they aren't peaking in august that's good news.

NY's stepchild · 08-19-2012, 09:40 PM

The only things I don't understand are why we didn't get someone to compete at RT, why we guaranteed Hunter's salary, or why we got Tebow. The Tebow thing is no big deal as far as I'm concerned, except that maybe we could have used that pick as part of a trade for a RT. How different this team would look if Otah had been in shape? No one on offense can look good when the QB is constantly pressured, and Hunter's run blocking was no better. I think we'll compensate for Hunter, but that will still limit the offense. The worst part is that we know Hunter can do it. He's probably the most athletically gifted Olineman on the team. He's just a headcase. I hope we find a replacement soon. I don't care if we need to trade a 2 for an average tackle. Oh and Howard did not play any better than Hunter. We actually seem to have pretty good depth at guard, but none of them seem to be able to play tackle. Oh and sign a blocking TE please.

NY's stepchild · 08-19-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdanNJ

the jets have been on the bottom for the past 43 yrs. were a joke, and woody is more concerned with media attention, then winning the SB.

Troll

auctionking · 08-19-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti

there is good news

1) the Jets don't have to play the Giants again this year, except perhaps in the SB (heh heh)

2) preseason losses don't matter. they aren't peaking in august that's good news.

The worst part about last nights game is I heard the announcers say the Giants gave up over 130 yds rushing to the Jags and we were still not able to ground and pound it against them. We show at least see signs of what might be

southparkcpa · 08-19-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Troll

You decided to post???? When I think JET homer, you and a few others come to mind.

No disrespect, I in fact respect your passion and simultaneously question my bitterness. I have been a fan since the late 70's.

That said...what tells you that the JETS of 2011 are gone? All I saw was the last 3 games of 2011 all over again.

First DOWN! · 08-19-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdanNJ

the jets have been on the bottom for the past 43 yrs. were a joke, and woody is more concerned with media attention, then winning the SB.

What makes matters worse it that the Giants are winning SBs while we are continuously looked at as a joke organization. And just to make it worse, we have a clown HC making a fool of himself with his ridiculous talk, drafted a lazy QB who's indecision includes not knowing whether he's gay or straight, hired the fist pumping idiot coach for our OC, and now we've acquired the biggest circus story in Tebow. This really is unbelievable.

Why are we getting punished? What the hell?!?!?

southparkcpa · 08-19-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by First DOWN!

What makes matters worse it that the Giants are winning SBs while we are continuously looked at as a joke organization. And just to make it worse, we have a clown HC making a fool of himself with his ridiculous talk, drafted a lazy QB who's indecision includes not knowing whether he's gay or straight, hired the fist pumping idiot coach for our OC, and now we've acquired the biggest circus story in Tebow. This really is unbelievable.

Why are we getting punished? What the hell?!?!?

Pittsburgh, Giants, Pats, Green Bay ..all win.

The recipe is clear yet JETS management acts like they know better.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 08-19-2012, 10:12 PM

I seriously just had a very good feeling come over me. This year is our year gentlemen. 11-5 and we will make it back to the AFC championship game. I can't tell beyond that tho.

sg3 · 08-19-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Troll

The worst example of one

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Mainejet · 08-20-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ASH_1962

I am of the exact same opinion as you. Fish stinks from the head down. Our ST's suck ass too. The only thing that matter is his defense. And we will win between 3-6 games this season.

Do you two overreact much? 3-6 wins? That's a little over the top.

So long as the defense is there, the Jets will be somewhere near a .500 team. 7-9 wins can easily happen.

patman · 08-20-2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rmeyer52

Like most Jet fans I thought the Giants played at a level that was beyond this current Jets team. While I am not ready to give up on the season it's obvious that this team has a hell of lot of work to do before they can compete with teams like the Giants and Packers.

Watching the Ravens this week I could not help but compare some of their problems with ours. If the Ravens had a better offense and QB they probably could have more rings.

What really bothers me is that the offensive problems this year are a continuation of the problems from last year. It leaves me wondering if Rex has a grasp of offensive strategy and is too ingrained in the defense. If this team continues to have offensive problems than obviously there are deeper issues here that we know about.

As for the OL I agree with other posters who say that his play has started to go down hill. Why Rex and Tanny dont address this is beyond me but Rex needs to stop worrying about being a players coach and call his players in for a comet to Jesus meeting when they underperform.

Obviously we do need help at WR as there isn't any WR who can stretch the field. Opposing teams will continue to bring their LB's in to stop the run while daring the Jets to throw the ball. Same as last year.

I wonder what the decision making is for draft picks? Is it driven by Rex or by Tanny and what is the philosophy behind the picks (i.e. offense vs. defense) and who is held accountable ?

The Patsies are also having their problem on offense but they have a proven SB QB and seem to be able to turn it as the season progresses. Remember that the Giants record last year was 9-7 and they ran the table in the playoffs. Don't throw in the towel yet. As always they will play exciting football and like Sanchez said it's a long season.

Are you a patriot fan posing as a jet fan who uses the name of a patriot coach as a user name?

southparkcpa · 08-20-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sg3

The worst example of one

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Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Troll

To sg3 and NY Step....

You decided to post???? When I think JET homer, you and a few others come to mind.

No disrespect, I in fact respect your passion and simultaneously question my bitterness. I have been a fan since the late 70's.

That said...what tells you that the JETS of 2011 are gone? All I saw was the last 3 games of 2011 all over again.

08-19-2012, 07:54 PM	#1
rmeyer52 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 2,709	Before you can go to the top you have to hit bottom Like most Jet fans I thought the Giants played at a level that was beyond this current Jets team. While I am not ready to give up on the season it's obvious that this team has a hell of lot of work to do before they can compete with teams like the Giants and Packers. Watching the Ravens this week I could not help but compare some of their problems with ours. If the Ravens had a better offense and QB they probably could have more rings. What really bothers me is that the offensive problems this year are a continuation of the problems from last year. It leaves me wondering if Rex has a grasp of offensive strategy and is too ingrained in the defense. If this team continues to have offensive problems than obviously there are deeper issues here that we know about. As for the OL I agree with other posters who say that his play has started to go down hill. Why Rex and Tanny dont address this is beyond me but Rex needs to stop worrying about being a players coach and call his players in for a comet to Jesus meeting when they underperform. Obviously we do need help at WR as there isn't any WR who can stretch the field. Opposing teams will continue to bring their LB's in to stop the run while daring the Jets to throw the ball. Same as last year. I wonder what the decision making is for draft picks? Is it driven by Rex or by Tanny and what is the philosophy behind the picks (i.e. offense vs. defense) and who is held accountable ? The Patsies are also having their problem on offense but they have a proven SB QB and seem to be able to turn it as the season progresses. Remember that the Giants record last year was 9-7 and they ran the table in the playoffs. Don't throw in the towel yet. As always they will play exciting football and like Sanchez said it's a long season.

08-19-2012, 08:53 PM	#3
southparkcpa I see the 88 to 97 period all over again. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC Posts: 15,726	I love that term...LOT OF WORK TO DO. Bread won't rise without yeast. We have a yeast infection that may win 7 games. maybe.

08-19-2012, 08:55 PM	#4
srobjets Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,455	rex does not give 2 sh!ts about the o. Never has never will. This guy is a freakin joke of a head coach. 5-11 here we come.

08-19-2012, 09:32 PM	#8
bigdanNJ Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,158	the jets have been on the bottom for the past 43 yrs. were a joke, and woody is more concerned with media attention, then winning the SB.

08-19-2012, 09:34 PM	#9
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	there is good news 1) the Jets don't have to play the Giants again this year, except perhaps in the SB (heh heh) 2) preseason losses don't matter. they aren't peaking in august that's good news.

08-19-2012, 09:40 PM	#10
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,713	The only things I don't understand are why we didn't get someone to compete at RT, why we guaranteed Hunter's salary, or why we got Tebow. The Tebow thing is no big deal as far as I'm concerned, except that maybe we could have used that pick as part of a trade for a RT. How different this team would look if Otah had been in shape? No one on offense can look good when the QB is constantly pressured, and Hunter's run blocking was no better. I think we'll compensate for Hunter, but that will still limit the offense. The worst part is that we know Hunter can do it. He's probably the most athletically gifted Olineman on the team. He's just a headcase. I hope we find a replacement soon. I don't care if we need to trade a 2 for an average tackle. Oh and Howard did not play any better than Hunter. We actually seem to have pretty good depth at guard, but none of them seem to be able to play tackle. Oh and sign a blocking TE please.

08-19-2012, 10:12 PM	#16
JetsfanfromtheBURGH Pirates win 88 games this year. Mark it! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,132	I seriously just had a very good feeling come over me. This year is our year gentlemen. 11-5 and we will make it back to the AFC championship game. I can't tell beyond that tho.