Get him out now!

[jetswin]

...enough bully, lying, smugass, bull****


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ermann-maddow/

Labor Department spends stimulus funds for ads during Olbermann, Maddow shows

Contract shows no new jobs were created




By Jim McElhatton
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The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 21, 2012

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• The Labor Department paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal stimulus funds to a public relations firm to run more than 100 commercials touting the Obama administration’s “green training” job efforts on two MSNBC cable shows, records show.

The commercials ran on MSNBC on shows hosted by Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann in 2009, but the contract didn’t report any jobs created, according to records reviewed recently by The Washington Times.



Read more: Labor Department spends stimulus funds for ads during Olbermann, Maddow shows - Washington Times

[AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite]

That should be a huge scandal... But you know, nothing to see here...

[Buster]

my god!!!

The Government paying to advertise!

ON TV!!!

unheard of

Spending reports under the federal Recovery Act show $495,000 paid to McNeely Pigott & Fox Public Relations LLC, which the Labor Department hired to raise awareness “among employers and influencers about the [Job Corps] program’s existing and new training initiatives in high growth and environmentally friendly career areas” as well as spreading the word to prospective Job Corps enrollees.

This is where tons of jobs were created Installing solar panels. The folks who became installers needed to be trained to do it. Thus Job corps advertising. The hope was this and solar manufacturing would create jobs but China undercut our manufacturing. So all we got were installer jobs.

[Frequent Flyer]

Obamao is a worthless POS.

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by Buster

This is where tons of jobs were created Installing solar panels. The folks who became installers needed to be trained to do it. Thus Job corps advertising. The hope was this and solar manufacturing would create jobs but China undercut our manufacturing. So all we got were installer jobs.

Completely subsidized training for a completely subsidizedindustry to a point where it would have been cheaper to the taxpayer to simply give the money spent directly to the individuals in question.

Business as usual for political pet projects and pipe dreams. After all, it's only taxpayer money, who cares how it's spent as long as they claim to mean well, right?

[quantum]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Business as usual for political pet projects and pipe dreams. After all, it's only taxpayer money, who cares how it's spent as long as they claim to mean well, right?

Ah, the stories I could tell you, dude. They'd set your kilt on fire and drive you insane.

[MnJetFan]

Clueless in the White House!

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Completely subsidized training for a completely subsidizedindustry to a point where it would have been cheaper to the taxpayer to simply give the money spent directly to the individuals in question.

Business as usual for political pet projects and pipe dreams. After all, it's only taxpayer money, who cares how it's spent as long as they claim to mean well, right?

Your argument applies to the entire american energy industry.

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by Buster

Your argument applies to the entire american energy industry.

You wish.

Oil and Coal are profitable, their "subsidy" is owing less taxes.

Green, generally, is unprofitable. Without direct money given by the State, they go under.

Not even close to being the same.

[palmetto defender]

Originally Posted by Warfish

You wish.

Oil and Coal are profitable, their "subsidy" is owing less taxes.

Green, generally, is unprofitable. Without direct money given by the State, they go under.

Not even close to being the same.

WF, There may be MINOR subsidies, but as an example, a stock I own Exxon Mobil Last year they paid $31 bill in tax on net income of $71 bill that looks like 43% to me. A lot Previous years were similar
Conoco Phillips has similar income tax % over the years.
The lack of tax payment comes from other areas. Like 48% of our adult population. Some "Green" companies as well.

[Frequent Flyer]

What could be more corrupt than Obama repaying the $50,000 George Kaiser raised for his campaign by flushing $535 million of our money down Solyndra? Only this: MSNBC — the hard left “news” channel that ferociously devoted itself to getting Obama elected — was paid to run 100 commercials promoting the Moonbat Messiah’s absurd green agenda with money that was supposedly being used to stimulate the economy.

The ads ran on shows featuring the spittle-spewing Obamunist moonbats Rachel Madcow and Queef Olbermann.

Spending reports under the federal Recovery Act show $495,000 paid to McNeely Pigott & Fox Public Relations LLC, which the Labor Department hired to raise awareness “among employers and influencers about the [Job Corps] program’s existing and new training initiatives in high growth and environmentally friendly career areas” as well as spreading the word to prospective Job Corps enrollees.

The firm ultimately negotiated ad buys for “two approved spots” airing 14 times per week for two months on “Countdown With Keith Olbermann” and “The Rachel Maddow Show,” according to a project report, which listed the number zero under a section of the report asking how many jobs had been created through the stimulus contract.

At least by now it is indisputable that the “stimulus” had nothing whatsoever to do with stimulating the economy. Grossly irresponsible people used the economic downturn as an excuse to go on a spending binge that in the long run will make our economic problems much worse by exploding the national debt.

If we still had law and order in this country, people would be going to jail for this larcenous abuse of public trust. That those involved could be reelected is beyond appalling.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=16202

[MnJetFan]

I have heard they crushed thousands of glass rods that were used in the solar paners and used others for a glass sculpture. Our tax money at work.
I just wonder where the left over money went to? Maybe Obama's campaign!

[Frequent Flyer]

With any luck America will come to its senses and vote for sanity in large enough numbers to overcome the predictable voter fraud and put an end to the disgraceful farce that has been the Age of Obama. Is it too soon for retrospectives?

[sackdance]

Originally Posted by Buster

The hope was this and solar manufacturing would create jobs but China undercut our manufacturing. So all we got were installer jobs.

Typical government performance.

I'm sure some big Al Gore types did nothing but shame existing energy sources and source bunk science to boot these winning contracts home, Solyndra style. And at no risk to anyone but the taxpayer, of course - and no one cares about them.

[SafetyBlitz]

Originally Posted by Warfish

You wish.

Oil and Coal are profitable, their "subsidy" is owing less taxes.

Green, generally, is unprofitable. Without direct money given by the State, they go under.

Not even close to being the same.

Interesting argument. Oil and coal are 19th century fuel sources, damaging to the environment, finite AND make a huge profit with or without subsidy.

Green technology is in its infancy, not profitable as of yet, by definition has little to no environmental impact and, in most cases, infinite.

And you have a problem subsidizing the second, but not the first? Or is it all subsidies, Warfish?

special low tax rate exceptions are a subsidy

[sameoldjets]

go take a look at the facts. the simple fact is that the taxpayer cost per megawatt of power production from either coal or natural gas or even nuclear is at least an order of magnitude less than that for solar/wind. we simply should not make a wholesale move towards solar/wind until it can stand on the same economic footing as the other primary energy sources. right now they can't and we should be funding poorly managed companies like solyndra or the other nevada company that lost even more but has pelosi's brother in law on its board. the bottom line is obummer is merely changing from one special interest group to another and we are left holding the bag.

Originally Posted by SafetyBlitz

Interesting argument. Oil and coal are 19th century fuel sources, damaging to the environment, finite AND make a huge profit with or without subsidy.

Green technology is in its infancy, not profitable as of yet, by definition has little to no environmental impact and, in most cases, infinite.

And you have a problem subsidizing the second, but not the first? Or is it all subsidies, Warfish?

special low tax rate exceptions are a subsidy

[PlumberKhan]

Originally Posted by sameoldjets

go take a look at the facts. the simple fact is that the taxpayer cost per megawatt of power production from either coal or natural gas or even nuclear is at least an order of magnitude less than that for solar/wind.

Youre right.

It's cheaper to pay for oil in blood. Blood is cheap.

[MnJetFan]

I am looking for Hope and Change in the White House that is!

[PlumberKhan]

Originally Posted by MnJetFan

I am looking for Hope and Change in the White House that is!

Cool.

[SafetyBlitz]

Originally Posted by sameoldjets

go take a look at the facts. the simple fact is that the taxpayer cost per megawatt of power production from either coal or natural gas or even nuclear is at least an order of magnitude less than that for solar/wind. we simply should not make a wholesale move towards solar/wind until it can stand on the same economic footing as the other primary energy sources. right now they can't and we should be funding poorly managed companies like solyndra or the other nevada company that lost even more but has pelosi's brother in law on its board. the bottom line is obummer is merely changing from one special interest group to another and we are left holding the bag.

Investing in solyndra was a mistake. That doesn't mean we shouldn't invest ever again in green energy. If you don't like the idea of giving it to a company, I'm fine with that, then lets spend that money on research grants at our top universities with our best scientists.

Fossil fuels don't need to be subsidized. They need to be waned off of. They are environmentally damaging, but more importantly, they are finite and with both China and India going through serious industrialization we have to be prepared for a great spike in demand for fossil fuels. Logically, we should be planning for the future and investing today for energy alternatives, especially clean-renewable ones.

And the point about fossil fuels and nuclear being more effective now is obvious, nobody would dispute that - that's why we don't need to subsidize them and we need to start subsidizing the energy of the 21st century.