Jets finally got it right: It's the pass rush stupid (not the economy) - Page 3

McGinley · 08-28-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Ahh Brings me back to the days of the Martinette's.. 3.5 ypc Great year for Cumar 4.2 for Greene he sucks..

Lol. I'm telling you, these guys really would pay a long snapper 20 mil if he were elite. It's like they want us to be in chains and unable to get better players for other positions because we've given the deed to our house to Revis.

RevisCroWilson · 08-28-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

I think Revis is a great player but a great CB isn't the most important player on the team.. Do the Giants have a great secondary?? Do they beat the Pats?? Notice our top draft choices in the last 2 drafts??

Yes now hopefully we have the best of both worlds, just because the giants secondary sucked and they won a sb doesnt mean we need to trade revis. Now with the upgrade in pass rush between coples, the development of wilk and maybin with our dbacks we could easily have the top defense in the league.

Lord of War 599 · 08-28-2012, 07:27 PM

For all the people complaining about the Kyle Wilson pick and saying we should have drafted a pass rusher?

WHO?

Koa Misi, Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle?

Kyle has not been as good as he could be and hasn't been consistent, but he is definitely better than those guys.

The people that say we should draft pass rushers and talk about the Giants model here is the problem:

Drafting for need isn't better than going BPA.

When the Jets drafted Mo and Coples even though it filled needs they were each the best player available.

This is like when SAR I says we should have drafted a QB at the time of 2006 even though Leinart and Cutler weren't the best players on the board.

In regards to Revis and the cap, I understand hesitating about giving huge money, but I would rather do that in some respects than just get back draft picks unless Revis's demands are just outrageous. Draft picks are valuable but unknowns. The best way to do a Revis trade is to at least get a good player in return IMO.

Bob Crable · 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Crable

In the salary cap era, name one team that has dedicated 10% or more of it's cap space to a cornerback and won a Superbowl.

If you can't do that, just name one that has won a Conference Championship.

If you can't do that, just name one that has won a Division.

Go ahead...

Still waiting...

southparkcpa · 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronxville Jets Fan

You have to pay your superstars, regardless of position. Many teams take much bigger annual cap hits for their QBs than the Jets do, so it all evens out.

Oh yeah...find me a SB team with a CB jamming the cap like Revis will.

Love Revis but rather have 2 Cro's if we can get an elite QB and some offense.

Savage69 · 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

LOL.

I can understand the emotional attachment to Revis. As a franchise we have been starved of iconic players and now we have a player that can go down as the GOAT at his position. Unfortunately, his position is not QB.

Can't have a $16 million dollar CB on a 7-9 team with an anemic offense.

We don't always agree but your spot on in your opinion..

Greenwave81 · 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

So how can you be so sure trading revis is better for the team? I am a team fan and keeping revis is def better for the team than trading him.

Umm...what some seem to be saying, if I might, is that EVERYTHING in a CAPPED league has a worth. Even YOU must believe there is SOME PRICE at which Revis is 'not worth it'.

Would you say Revis is worth 10% of the cap? 12%? 15%? I hate these 'Revis is worth every penny' vs 'trade Revis he ain't worth it' threads because the parameters of his demands etc are not even known.

At a certain point, even Revis isn't worth it as it is detrimental to putting together a complete team due to salary cap constraints.

Savage69 · 08-28-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

Yes now hopefully we have the best of both worlds, just because the giants secondary sucked and they won a sb doesnt mean we need to trade revis. Now with the upgrade in pass rush between coples, the development of wilk and maybin with our dbacks we could easily have the top defense in the league.

2 Super Bowls over the Pats..

RevisCroWilson · 08-28-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Lol. I'm telling you, these guys really would pay a long snapper 20 mil if he were elite. It's like they want us to be in chains and unable to get better players for other positions because we've given the deed to our house to Revis.

You keep showing how clueless you are, I could care less about keeping a player because of how iconic he is. Its what he brings to this team and to this defense. Rex ryan will not let that guy leave this team, this defense does so much more because of Revis. You and Savage have yet to bring up one good argument on how the jets are better by trading him.

McGinley · 08-28-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

2 Super Bowls over the Pats..

But but but Revis doe!

lol

Bob Crable · 08-28-2012, 07:35 PM

Revis needs to be traded while he's still worth something to someone else.

Invest that money in a legitimate pass rusher, or a couple of playmakers on offense.

cant wait · 08-28-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

2 Super Bowls over the Pats..

WTF does the giants winning the SB have to do with the jets trading revis? this is the stupidest argument I've read in some time. you are all trying way too hard to sound smart. cut it out with the fan GM'ing

cant wait · 08-28-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

You keep showing how clueless you are, I could care less about keeping a player because of how iconic he is. Its what he brings to this team and to this defense. Rex ryan will not let that guy leave this team, this defense does so much more because of Revis. You and Savage have yet to bring up one good argument on how the jets are better by trading him.

but but but but.... the giants!
moronic at best

McGinley · 08-28-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

You keep showing how clueless you are, I could care less about keeping a player because of how iconic he is. Its what he brings to this team and to this defense. Rex ryan will not let that guy leave this team, this defense does so much more because of Revis. You and Savage have yet to bring up one good argument on how the jets are better by trading him.

We already did on page one. You're just too attached to Revis’ balls to face reality.

You truly are helpless.

RevisCroWilson · 08-28-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cant wait

WTF does the giants winning the SB have to do with the jets trading revis? this is the stupidest argument I've read in some time. you are all trying way too hard to sound smart. cut it out with the fan GM'ing

+1

Savage69 · 08-28-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

You keep showing how clueless you are, I could care less about keeping a player because of how iconic he is. Its what he brings to this team and to this defense. Rex ryan will not let that guy leave this team, this defense does so much more because of Revis. You and Savage have yet to bring up one good argument on how the jets are better by trading him.

When we went 12-4 in 98 was that because of Revis?? When we won a Bowl was that because a shinning star in the north said a savior named Revis would be born in the year 1985 will be the one. I'm done its like arguing with a Player fan named Chad owns Brady..

McGinley · 08-28-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cant wait

WTF does the giants winning the SB have to do with the jets trading revis? this is the stupidest argument I've read in some time. you are all trying way too hard to sound smart. cut it out with the fan GM'ing

The point, genius, is that they don't have an elite CB like Revis as we do and yet they're WINNERS. They do, on the other hand, have great QB, WRs, and a pass rush. Are you really having this hard of a time connecting the dots?

RevisCroWilson · 08-28-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

We already did on page one. You're just too attached to Revis’ balls to face reality.

You truly are helpless.

No you actually did not. You did not make one good argument yet, you have just been posting your sarcastic comments with your savage boy.

Savage69 · 08-28-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cant wait

WTF does the giants winning the SB have to do with the jets trading revis? this is the stupidest argument I've read in some time. you are all trying way too hard to sound smart. cut it out with the fan GM'ing

It's only stupid when your head is so far up Revis's butt to see a CB is not the most important player on the team.. If Revis plays for a sane contract I'm all for keeping him but not if his demands hurt the team in acquiring other players that we need to win..

Savage69 · 08-28-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson

No you actually did not. You did not make one good argument yet, you have just been posting your sarcastic comments with your savage boy.

Boy?? You must be a child to post that..

08-28-2012, 07:27 PM	#43
Lord of War 599 Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 233	For all the people complaining about the Kyle Wilson pick and saying we should have drafted a pass rusher? WHO? Koa Misi, Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle? Kyle has not been as good as he could be and hasn't been consistent, but he is definitely better than those guys. The people that say we should draft pass rushers and talk about the Giants model here is the problem: Drafting for need isn't better than going BPA. When the Jets drafted Mo and Coples even though it filled needs they were each the best player available. This is like when SAR I says we should have drafted a QB at the time of 2006 even though Leinart and Cutler weren't the best players on the board. In regards to Revis and the cap, I understand hesitating about giving huge money, but I would rather do that in some respects than just get back draft picks unless Revis's demands are just outrageous. Draft picks are valuable but unknowns. The best way to do a Revis trade is to at least get a good player in return IMO.

08-28-2012, 07:35 PM	#51
Bob Crable Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 296	Revis needs to be traded while he's still worth something to someone else. Invest that money in a legitimate pass rusher, or a couple of playmakers on offense.