NYP Costello: The positions where the Jets face the toughest decisions - Page 2

NYJCAP2 · 08-30-2012, 01:56 PM

Unless he totally bombs tonight against 2nd and 3rd stringers, I don't see how anyone can make an argument to cut Richardson. I think he belongs.

SyracuseJet · 08-30-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

Unless he totally bombs tonight against 2nd and 3rd stringers, I don't see how anyone can make an argument to cut Richardson. I think he belongs.

Absolutely agree.

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escamoter2 · 08-30-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin

Scott looks as good as he ever has as a Jet

In coverage? It's the same strengths and weaknesses. Plus, I'd like to get back some draft picks after wasting picks on Tebow. We never seem to have enough draft picks to ensure we have good young depth throughout the team. Good teams trade guys a year early instead of a year too late. He's replaceable.

Jordy · 08-30-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ozu

WR (5)
Holmes
Hill
Kerley
Turner
White

LB (9)
Thomas
Scott
Harris
Pace
Maybin
Bellore
Mauga
McIntyre
Davis

Corner, who knows. I really don't think much of Trufant/Posey except on STs. Last year we kept 6 DL so Dixon/Richardson/MTV/Harrison are basically fighting for that last spot and they've all played well. I think Dixon will get it.
People have an irrational hatred for Bart around here. He'd looked great in the preseason though.

Agreed. I'll lose it if we keep Schilens over White.

Except last year we played more 34. This year will be more 43. So we will need more on the DL.

escamoter2 · 08-30-2012, 02:10 PM

We better keep Jordan White. It's a travesty that we have not given him real playing time with the 1s and instead gave that playing time to Hill, who is a project right now. White was the productive one in college, not Hill.

GreenSpleen · 08-30-2012, 02:11 PM

This team still needs an outside pass rush. I think we better stash Sapp away. Out Offense is going to be weak, no matter what, with Sanchez as the QB. So with that in mind, we need to have a beast of a Defense.

Untouchable · 08-30-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NYDreamer

Jetsblog.com has a great article on DT Harrison out of William Penn fighting for a NT roster spot as well. Kids like this who are showing something special are the ones you root for, it just becomes a numbers game. We have seen that all to often during preseason.

I'll be pretty pissed if we keep Teveseau over Harrison.

MTV has looked like sh*t everytime I've seen him, dating back to two years ago.

The guy constantly gets blown off the line.

Jordy · 08-30-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

I'll be pretty pissed if we keep Teveseau over Harrison.

MTV has looked like sh*t everytime I've seen him, dating back to two years ago.

The guy constantly gets blown off the line.

+1

gaffneycatch · 08-30-2012, 03:24 PM

running back could be interesting with Connor and Ganaway on the bubble.

Jordy · 08-30-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gaffneycatch

running back could be interesting with Connor and Ganaway on the bubble.

I'd be a bit surprised if the Jets didn't grab a RB/FB type off the wire and replace Conner.

I think Ganaway goes to the PS.

Ray Ray19 · 08-30-2012, 03:28 PM

From what I've read, and what I know of the player, I really hope Ryan finds a way to keep Sapp on the LB unit, his talent and upside is worth it and he was killing it early in camp before that scrimmage game, he practiced for two weeks and gave the coaches a lot of practice film to look at, I have to think he has a chance.

To me the LB unit is the most interesting.

To, Scott, Pace, Harris, Scott, Maybin, Davis, and Mauga are locks, yes, I didn't mention Thomas as a lock...

Depending on how many they keep, you got to figure they'll keep at least 8.

Obviously Thomas is up at the top of the bubble list, and from all indications, he's had a good camp and has looked good in the pre-season, seems fully recovered, he does a lot of the dirty work as the SOLB, so Ryan may have a soft spot for the player, and it seems he can still play at a good level, but examining the OLB position is interesting.

You figure, Pace, Thomas, and Maybin are in, then you have McIntyre and Sapp battling for that 4th spot, I think the Jets keep 8 or 9.

To me, Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga make it at ILB

Pace, Thomas*, Maybin make it at OLB

McIntyre is a player much like Thomas, Sapp is probably one of their more talented and all around LB's because of size and speed, can rush passer, can play run, you figure if he showed well enough, he's got to take the 4th OLB spot.

Bellore I think is in trouble due to numbers, but I know he's a ST's stud, so that is why I think we saw Bellore getting reps at FB, the team wants to keep him, and is trying to find a way to keep him, and the reason for this isn't neccessarily because Harris, Davis, Scott, and Mauga are ahead of him, I'm pretty sure the team really likes Dowtin's upside. Dowtin was a starter on ST's last game, he has a lot of upside, and can play both outside and inside, he's probably one of the best athletes on the team, they may consider putting Dowtin on PS, but he may have too much ability to risk that.

If I had to guess, the team decides to keep 9 LB's, they've kep 10 and 11 DB's in the past, I think they only keep no more than 10 this year, so the extra number goes at LB.

My final guess for defense:

Defense: (26)

DL: (7)

DE: Wilkerson, Coples, Devito, Dixon, Richardson
NT/DT: Pouha, Ellis

LB: (9)

OLB: Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp
ILB: Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga, Dowtin

Bellore gets cut or stays with team at FB, and McIntyre is cut and put on PS. Bellore too could be added back to PS.

DB: (10)

CB: Revis, Cromartie, Wilson, Lankster, Trufant
S: Landry, Bell, Smith, Bush, Allen

Offense: (24)

QB: (3)

Sanchez
Tebow
McElroy

RB/FB: (4)

Greene
Powell
McKnight
Conner

TE: (3)

Keller
Cumberland
FA/trade

OL: (8)

Mangold
Moore
Slauson
Ferguson
Howard
Ducasse
Schlauderaff
Smith

WR: (6)

Holmes
Hill
Schilens
Kerley
Turner
White

ST: (3)

K Folk
P Conley/Lanning
LS Purdum

PS: (8)

RB Ganaway
LB Bellore
LB McIntyre
TE Hayden Smith
CB Posey
WR Pollard
DT Harrison
OL Griffin

gaffneycatch · 08-30-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

From what I've read, and what I know of the player, I really hope Ryan finds a way to keep Sapp on the LB unit, his talent and upside is worth it and he was killing it early in camp before that scrimmage game, he practiced for two weeks and gave the coaches a lot of practice film to look at, I have to think he has a chance.

To me the LB unit is the most interesting.

To, Scott, Pace, Harris, Scott, Maybin, Davis, and Mauga are locks, yes, I didn't mention Thomas as a lock...

Depending on how many they keep, you got to figure they'll keep at least 8.

Obviously Thomas is up at the top of the bubble list, and from all indications, he's had a good camp and has looked good in the pre-season, seems fully recovered, he does a lot of the dirty work as the SOLB, so Ryan may have a soft spot for the player, and it seems he can still play at a good level, but examining the OLB position is interesting.

You figure, Pace, Thomas, and Maybin are in, then you have McIntyre and Sapp battling for that 4th spot, I think the Jets keep 8 or 9.

To me, Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga make it at ILB

Pace, Thomas*, Maybin make it at OLB

McIntyre is a player much like Thomas, Sapp is probably one of their more talented and all around LB's because of size and speed, can rush passer, can play run, you figure if he showed well enough, he's got to take the 4th OLB spot.

Bellore I think is in trouble due to numbers, but I know he's a ST's stud, so that is why I think we saw Bellore getting reps at FB, the team wants to keep him, and is trying to find a way to keep him, and the reason for this isn't neccessarily because Harris, Davis, Scott, and Mauga are ahead of him, I'm pretty sure the team really likes Dowtin's upside. Dowtin was a starter on ST's last game, he has a lot of upside, and can play both outside and inside, he's probably one of the best athletes on the team, they may consider putting Dowtin on PS, but he may have too much ability to risk that.

If I had to guess, the team decides to keep 9 LB's, they've kep 10 and 11 DB's in the past, I think they only keep no more than 10 this year, so the extra number goes at LB.

My final guess for defense:

Defense: (26)

DL: (7)

DE: Wilkerson, Coples, Devito, Dixon, Richardson
NT/DT: Pouha, Ellis

LB: (9)

OLB: Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp
ILB: Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga, Dowtin

Bellore gets cut or stays with team at FB, and McIntyre is cut and put on PS. Bellore too could be added back to PS.

DB: (10)

CB: Revis, Cromartie, Wilson, Lankster, Trufant
S: Landry, Bell, Smith, Bush, Allen

Offense: (24)

QB: (3)

Sanchez
Tebow
McElroy

RB/FB: (4)

Greene
Powell
McKnight
Conner

TE: (3)

Keller
Cumberland
FA/trade

OL: (8)

Mangold
Moore
Slauson
Ferguson
Howard
Ducasse
Schlauderaff
Smith

WR: (6)

Holmes
Hill
Schilens
Kerley
Turner
White

ST: (3)

K Folk
P Conley/Lanning
LS Purdum

PS: (8)

RB Ganaway
LB Bellore
LB McIntyre
TE Hayden Smith
CB Posey
WR Pollard
DT Harrison
OL Griffin

looks pretty reasonable.

but you can't just put anybody on the practice squad. the guy has to have less than 2 years in the NFL, and can't have been on the 53-man squad for more than like 6 games in a season (maybe it's even 4). I think that eliminates Bellore, McIntyre, and maybe one or two other guys you have listed there.

fltflo · 08-30-2012, 03:45 PM

Would love to see the Jets swing some trades for some of the better players we are going to have to cut. A player like Pace might fetch a 3 or 4 and a few others 5 and 6's, hope Tanny is already working the phones and seeing if there is any interest before many of these quality players become F/A's available to all takers

Jordy · 08-30-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Bellore gets cut or stays with team at FB, and McIntyre is cut and put on PS. Bellore too could be added back to PS.

PS: (8)

RB Ganaway
LB Bellore
LB McIntyre
TE Hayden Smith
CB Posey
WR Pollard
DT Harrison
OL Griffin

Are McIntyre and Bellore PS eligible?

Hayden Smith gets a foreign player exception so you can add one more to the PS.

Ray Ray19 · 08-30-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Are McIntyre and Bellore PS eligible?

Hayden Smith gets a foreign player exception so you can add one more to the PS.

It's close, and I know there are rules, but I think there are playing time rules but I'm not completely sure if McIntyre and Bellore are PS eligible.

Is that true on Smith? I did not know that..

ozu · 08-30-2012, 04:15 PM

They're not eligible. They were active for more than 9 games last year.

Ray Ray19 · 08-30-2012, 04:18 PM

And btw, I meant to put Simms on my PS squad, I think the team likes him a lot and is trying to hide him to keep him on the PS for a year.

I would NOT be surprised with a good showing tonight if Simms made the team, whether that included McElroy or not.

Bob Crable · 08-30-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

And btw, I meant to put Simms on my PS squad, I think the team likes him a lot and is trying to hide him to keep him on the PS for a year.

I would NOT be surprised with a good showing tonight if Simms made the team, whether that included McElroy or not.

Oh my heavens. The stupidity.

Ray Ray19 · 08-30-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Crable

Oh my heavens. The stupidity.

What is stupid?

C Mart · 08-30-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpleen

This team still needs an outside pass rush. I think we better stash Sapp away. Out Offense is going to be weak, no matter what, with Sanchez as the QB. So with that in mind, we need to have a beast of a Defense.

I agree..I would guess Sapp is only a week or two away from playing at this point..I know it's been reported to be a high ankle sprain but it's been about 4 weeks now..What's another week or two to have him inactive on gameday..

08-30-2012, 01:56 PM	#21
NYJCAP2 All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 3,822	Unless he totally bombs tonight against 2nd and 3rd stringers, I don't see how anyone can make an argument to cut Richardson. I think he belongs.

08-30-2012, 02:10 PM	#25
escamoter2 All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,992	We better keep Jordan White. It's a travesty that we have not given him real playing time with the 1s and instead gave that playing time to Hill, who is a project right now. White was the productive one in college, not Hill.

08-30-2012, 02:11 PM	#26
GreenSpleen Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,154	This team still needs an outside pass rush. I think we better stash Sapp away. Out Offense is going to be weak, no matter what, with Sanchez as the QB. So with that in mind, we need to have a beast of a Defense.

08-30-2012, 03:24 PM	#29
gaffneycatch All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Blue Ridge Mtns. of Virginia Posts: 2,715	running back could be interesting with Connor and Ganaway on the bubble.

08-30-2012, 03:28 PM	#31
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,956	From what I've read, and what I know of the player, I really hope Ryan finds a way to keep Sapp on the LB unit, his talent and upside is worth it and he was killing it early in camp before that scrimmage game, he practiced for two weeks and gave the coaches a lot of practice film to look at, I have to think he has a chance. To me the LB unit is the most interesting. To, Scott, Pace, Harris, Scott, Maybin, Davis, and Mauga are locks, yes, I didn't mention Thomas as a lock... Depending on how many they keep, you got to figure they'll keep at least 8. Obviously Thomas is up at the top of the bubble list, and from all indications, he's had a good camp and has looked good in the pre-season, seems fully recovered, he does a lot of the dirty work as the SOLB, so Ryan may have a soft spot for the player, and it seems he can still play at a good level, but examining the OLB position is interesting. You figure, Pace, Thomas, and Maybin are in, then you have McIntyre and Sapp battling for that 4th spot, I think the Jets keep 8 or 9. To me, Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga make it at ILB Pace, Thomas, Maybin make it at OLB McIntyre is a player much like Thomas, Sapp is probably one of their more talented and all around LB's because of size and speed, can rush passer, can play run, you figure if he showed well enough, he's got to take the 4th OLB spot. Bellore I think is in trouble due to numbers, but I know he's a ST's stud, so that is why I think we saw Bellore getting reps at FB, the team wants to keep him, and is trying to find a way to keep him, and the reason for this isn't neccessarily because Harris, Davis, Scott, and Mauga are ahead of him, I'm pretty sure the team really likes Dowtin's upside. Dowtin was a starter on ST's last game, he has a lot of upside, and can play both outside and inside, he's probably one of the best athletes on the team, they may consider putting Dowtin on PS, but he may have too much ability to risk that. If I had to guess, the team decides to keep 9 LB's, they've kep 10 and 11 DB's in the past, I think they only keep no more than 10 this year, so the extra number goes at LB. My final guess for defense: Defense: (26) DL:* (7) DE: Wilkerson, Coples, Devito, Dixon, Richardson NT/DT: Pouha, Ellis LB: (9) OLB: Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp ILB: Harris, Scott, Davis, Mauga, Dowtin Bellore gets cut or stays with team at FB, and McIntyre is cut and put on PS. Bellore too could be added back to PS. DB: (10) CB: Revis, Cromartie, Wilson, Lankster, Trufant S: Landry, Bell, Smith, Bush, Allen Offense: (24) QB: (3) Sanchez Tebow McElroy RB/FB: (4) Greene Powell McKnight Conner TE: (3) Keller Cumberland FA/trade OL: (8) Mangold Moore Slauson Ferguson Howard Ducasse Schlauderaff Smith WR: (6) Holmes Hill Schilens Kerley Turner White ST: (3) K Folk P Conley/Lanning LS Purdum PS: (8) RB Ganaway LB Bellore LB McIntyre TE Hayden Smith CB Posey WR Pollard DT Harrison OL Griffin

08-30-2012, 03:45 PM	#33
fltflo Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 377	Would love to see the Jets swing some trades for some of the better players we are going to have to cut. A player like Pace might fetch a 3 or 4 and a few others 5 and 6's, hope Tanny is already working the phones and seeing if there is any interest before many of these quality players become F/A's available to all takers

08-30-2012, 04:15 PM	#36
ozu in Section 135, Row 28. All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hoboken Posts: 3,922	They're not eligible. They were active for more than 9 games last year.

08-30-2012, 04:18 PM	#37
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,956	And btw, I meant to put Simms on my PS squad, I think the team likes him a lot and is trying to hide him to keep him on the PS for a year. I would NOT be surprised with a good showing tonight if Simms made the team, whether that included McElroy or not.