Should the Holmes catch have been a TD?

augustiniak · 09-10-2012, 03:03 PM

I know it was tough to reverse, but did he get that 2nd foot in bounds?

JetStream · 09-10-2012, 03:04 PM

no, hand hit first out of bounds

JetsFanatic88 · 09-10-2012, 03:05 PM

It should have been, but his hand touched out of bounds, before the 2nd foot came in

Goodfellaz · 09-10-2012, 03:05 PM

No. He put his left hand down out of bounds before his right foot came down in bounds. Great catch, but unfortunately out of bounds. Refs made the correct call.

jetfan51 · 09-10-2012, 03:06 PM

It was a good call and the replay indicated so... His hand hit the ground out of bounds prior to his second foot landed....

Great Effort. Great Catch though

stanner · 09-10-2012, 03:16 PM

I think if it had initially been ruled a TD, it would've been real, real hard to overturn.

mrcoops · 09-10-2012, 03:17 PM

Both feet in, but hand touched out of bounds before the second foot came down. Correct call by the phony zebras.

Warfish · 09-10-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JetStream

no, hand hit first out of bounds

This.

It was very close. But it was a definite "no TD".

Green + White · 09-10-2012, 03:21 PM

According to the rules: No.

revischrist · 09-10-2012, 03:29 PM

it was actually a great call by the ref on the field. These replacement refs apparently have the same 20/20 vision as the "regular" refs, maybe even better. Once they get more and more comfortable with the nuance of being an NFL ref we won't notice the difference.

Jet Nut · 09-10-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by augustiniak

I know it was tough to reverse, but did he get that 2nd foot in bounds?

Only if the rules are meaningless.

His hand was clearly on the ground, out of bounds, before he got his 2nd foot down.

By rule no catch. Easy call.

jetrider · 09-10-2012, 03:30 PM

Should've been but Holmes mucked it up.

Jet Nut · 09-10-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stanner

I think if it had initially been ruled a TD, it would've been real, real hard to overturn.

Only for Stevie Wonder, it was clearly not a catch.

John in CT · 09-10-2012, 03:36 PM

A solid, professional reciever would know not to put your hand to the ground in that situation. You catch the ball, maintain possession, and get both feet in. A professional doesn't reach down to break his fall.

But, unfortunately, it was Santonio Holmes, so he was unable to get both feet in bounds before he put his hand on the ground to break his fall.

Jet Nut · 09-10-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jetrider

Should've been but Holmes mucked it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in CT

A solid, professional reciever would know not to put your hand to the ground in that situation. You catch the ball, maintain possession, and get both feet in. A professional doesn't reach down to break his fall.

But, unfortunately, it was Santonio Holmes, so he was unable to get both feet in bounds before he put his hand on the ground to break his fall.

OMG, this is as ridiculous as it gets.

carlito1171 · 09-10-2012, 03:38 PM

Helluva catch but no it was the right call...

Left hand touched out of bounds before his right foot landed in bounds...

ironman61 · 09-10-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Green + White

According to the rules: No.

as opposed to...?

bobby2times · 09-10-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

it was actually a great call by the ref on the field. These replacement refs apparently have the same 20/20 vision as the "regular" refs, maybe even better. Once they get more and more comfortable with the nuance of being an NFL ref we won't notice the difference.

You obviously didnt watch SF vs GB game. There was some horrid officiating going on in that game.

revischrist · 09-10-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby2times

You obviously didnt watch SF vs GB game. There was some horrid officiating going on in that game.

You are one of those guys that forget about all the crappy calls the regular refs made on a weekly basis. Why do you think the NFL instituted instant replay in the first place?

Warfish · 09-10-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

OMG, this is as ridiculous as it gets.

Indeed.

+1

I don't even like Holmes, and find this criticism laughable. It was an amazing effort and display of his talent he even caught it.

09-10-2012, 03:03 PM	#1
augustiniak All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,103	Should the Holmes catch have been a TD? I know it was tough to reverse, but did he get that 2nd foot in bounds?

09-10-2012, 03:04 PM	#2
JetStream All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Floral Park, NY Posts: 2,930	no, hand hit first out of bounds

09-10-2012, 03:05 PM	#3
JetsFanatic88 DMB+Gang Green+UM All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,612	It should have been, but his hand touched out of bounds, before the 2nd foot came in

09-10-2012, 03:05 PM	#4
Goodfellaz Gettin' a God damn snack... Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Jersey Posts: 376	No. He put his left hand down out of bounds before his right foot came down in bounds. Great catch, but unfortunately out of bounds. Refs made the correct call.

09-10-2012, 03:06 PM	#5
jetfan51 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 962	It was a good call and the replay indicated so... His hand hit the ground out of bounds prior to his second foot landed.... Great Effort. Great Catch though

09-10-2012, 03:16 PM	#6
stanner All League Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 2,806	I think if it had initially been ruled a TD, it would've been real, real hard to overturn.

09-10-2012, 03:17 PM	#7
mrcoops sleepy All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 5,488	Both feet in, but hand touched out of bounds before the second foot came down. Correct call by the phony zebras.

09-10-2012, 03:21 PM	#9
Green + White furor teutonicus Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NRW, Germany Posts: 1,020	According to the rules: No.

09-10-2012, 03:29 PM	#10
revischrist Dee Best! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,724	it was actually a great call by the ref on the field. These replacement refs apparently have the same 20/20 vision as the "regular" refs, maybe even better. Once they get more and more comfortable with the nuance of being an NFL ref we won't notice the difference.

09-10-2012, 03:30 PM	#12
jetrider Where are the Jets? Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,906	Should've been but Holmes mucked it up.

09-10-2012, 03:36 PM	#14
John in CT Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 48	A solid, professional reciever would know not to put your hand to the ground in that situation. You catch the ball, maintain possession, and get both feet in. A professional doesn't reach down to break his fall. But, unfortunately, it was Santonio Holmes, so he was unable to get both feet in bounds before he put his hand on the ground to break his fall.

09-10-2012, 03:38 PM	#16
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	Helluva catch but no it was the right call... Left hand touched out of bounds before his right foot landed in bounds...