Foreign Relations

palmetto defender · 09-12-2012, 07:37 AM

Obama and Biden touting themselves as having great experience in foreign policy and relations. Helping mend GWB's foibles.
Current situation:
1. Obama refuses to meet with Netanyahu to discuss Iran.
2. Russia and China give Obama and Hillatry the finger over Syria.
3. China threatening (over our objections) Japan on disputed islands.
4. Egyptians storm the U.S. embassy, burning our flag and causing destruction.
5.. Libyans attacking and KILLING the U.S. ambassodor there and three persons with him.
6. Continued strife (bombings) in Iraq and Afghanistan with increasing U.S. deaths in the latter.
This within the last day or so.

Does this sound like everything is well in hand?

SINYJets · 09-12-2012, 08:53 AM

What do you want Obama to do? He has a very important interview on Letterman coming up.

palmetto defender · 09-12-2012, 09:09 AM

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What do you want Obama to do? He has a very important interview on Letterman coming up.

I know. I am being a little demanding and selfish. His time (and marketing his beer) is more important than national security.

quantum · 09-12-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by palmetto defender

3a. China threatening several countries over rights to the South China Sea.

you forgot this.

palmetto defender · 09-12-2012, 02:10 PM

And now our trash president (yes, I am annoyed) has apologized for some movie which offended Moslem religious beliefs and resulted in the attack on our Egytian embassy and the murder of our Libyan ambssador and 3 American workers.
It OUR fault and hence WE DESERVED IT. Kind of sounds like the Jeremiah Wright garbage.
Obama hates America. As does his wife. He wants a socialist style nation.

All aid should be cut off to all Moslem countries.
It does give me pleasure to see all the Syrians being killed. They would kill US if they had the chance. And 300+ Pakistanis went up in factory fires. I feel no sympathy. We should feel positive about those who hate us? Stupid.

Jetdawgg · 09-12-2012, 02:16 PM

Looks as though you guys missed that there are now Marines deployed in Australia to respond to China.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8F3DU920120404

President Obama is light years ahead of Bush when it comes to foreign relations and Romney is not even close to Bush

Bonhomme Richard · 09-12-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetdawgg

Looks as though you guys missed that there are now Marines deployed in Australia to respond to China.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8F3DU920120404

President Obama is light years ahead of Bush when it comes to foreign relations and Romney is not even close to Bush

.... What?

What does this have to do with the atrocity that occurred in Libya last night? What does this have to do with another bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel? What PLANET do you live on?

I am shocked by what happened last night, and even more so by our President's response. The attack on the Egyptian embassy wasn't enough, the MURDER of an American official wasn't enough... when will enough be enough? When will he stop apologizing on behalf of America and kowtowing to religious fanatics?

This is unspeakably bad.

kennyo7 · 09-12-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

.... What?

What does this have to do with the atrocity that occurred in Libya last night? What does this have to do with another bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel? What PLANET do you live on?

I am shocked by what happened last night, and even more so by our President's response. The attack on the Egyptian embassy wasn't enough, the MURDER of an American official wasn't enough... when will enough be enough? When will he stop apologizing on behalf of America and kowtowing to religious fanatics?

This is unspeakably bad.

Yes lets Invade Libya and Egypt and bring them democracy like we did with Iraq and Afghanistan

When will you guys learn.

And BTW, there was no bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel. The message to Netanyahu was loud and clear...Fuk Off Bibi!! We are not invading Iran no matter how much you b!tch and whine. No one wants another war, especially with Iran. We have enough problems here, we dont need to start another misguided war that does not benefit the USA.

Bonhomme Richard · 09-12-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyo7

Yes lets Invade Libya and Egypt and bring them democracy like we did with Iraq and Afghanistan

When will you guys learn.

And BTW, there was no bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel. The message to Netanyahu was loud and clear...Fuk Off Bibi!! We are not invading Iran no matter how much you b!tch and whine. No one wants another war, especially with Iran. We have enough problems here, we dont need to start another misguided war that does not benefit the USA.

Where did I say we should invade anyone? It's nice that you just make things up to then argue with. Makes for a really interesting one sides conversation.

**** them all! Cut off all their ****ing aid. Let their miserable POS country burn. This ambassador worked his ass off for Libya and he paid the ultimate price, as a consequence of his gracious magnanimity. And the US embassy in Cairo (apparently NOT speaking on behalf of the continental US, which I find incredible) dishonors this dead man by saying, "well gee wiz, we really should t hurt the feelings of Muslims." It almost reads like a political satire.

And yeah, ken, they ****ed up their communication in regard to Israel. First they said they won't meet with him, and then when they got pressure from media overseas they buckled and gave a lame excuse that they won't be in the same place at the same time. Obama, the Crown Prince of Lame Excuses.

DeanPatsFan · 09-12-2012, 04:03 PM

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Yes lets Invade Libya and Egypt and bring them democracy like we did with Iraq and Afghanistan

Both uprisings that Obumbles supported. Let's give them a few more billion..

This moron that doesn't know sh*t from shinola is in so far over his head it isn't funny..

Jetdawgg · 09-12-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

.... What?

What does this have to do with the atrocity that occurred in Libya last night? What does this have to do with another bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel? What PLANET do you live on?

I am shocked by what happened last night, and even more so by our President's response. The attack on the Egyptian embassy wasn't enough, the MURDER of an American official wasn't enough... when will enough be enough? When will he stop apologizing on behalf of America and kowtowing to religious fanatics?

This is unspeakably bad.

Look at point 3 in the OP

kennyo7 · 09-12-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan

Both uprisings that Obumbles supported. Let's give them a few more billion..

This moron that doesn't know sh*t from shinola is in so far over his head it isn't funny..

Both uprisings supported by the people of those countries.
Yes lets support t corrupt brutal dictatorships over what the people want. Self determination should only apply to us not them.

As Jetdawgg said, Obama's foreign policy savvy is light years ahead of G W Bush, which clearly was light years ahead of guys like you, palmetto, and bonhomme. You guys really are clueless.

Winstonbiggs · 09-12-2012, 04:47 PM

Fascinating that the right wing guys who hate Obama for talking softly have apparently missed the fact that this administration has no issue killing our enemies on a regular basis. I suspect the perps of this crime will be dead in short order. Obama on balance has handled these situations pretty well.

kennyo7 · 09-12-2012, 05:17 PM

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Fascinating that the right wing guys who hate Obama for talking softly have apparently missed the fact that this administration has no issue killing our enemies on a regular basis. I suspect the perps of this crime will be dead in short order. Obama on balance has handled these situations pretty well.

Probably because it sounds much cooler/tougher to say thinks like "were going to smoke them out" or "wanted dead or alive".

There is no need to be more aggressive in the ME than we already are. In fact one can argue, Obama has been too aggressive at times.

PlumberKhan · 09-12-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

**** them all! Cut off all their ****ing aid. Let their miserable POS country burn.

Channeling that jerk PK now?

piney · 09-12-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

.... What?

What does this have to do with the atrocity that occurred in Libya last night? What does this have to do with another bumbling, fumbling miscommunication with Israel? What PLANET do you live on?

I am shocked by what happened last night, and even more so by our President's response. The attack on the Egyptian embassy wasn't enough, the MURDER of an American official wasn't enough... when will enough be enough? When will he stop apologizing on behalf of America and kowtowing to religious fanatics?

This is unspeakably bad.

It sounds like you really drank the Romney Kool-Aid before all the facts were in. Normally you're pretty shrewd but to claim a statement made by the embassy before the attack is somehow an Obama apology after the attack is a bit of a stretch.

PlumberKhan · 09-12-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by piney

It sounds like you really drank the Romney Kool-Aid before all the facts were in. Normally you're pretty shrewd but to claim a statement made by the embassy before the attack is somehow an Obama apology after the attack is a bit of a stretch.

Romney! Romney!!

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AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 09-12-2012, 06:39 PM

The last time a US Ambassador was killed, Jimmy Carter was in the WH...

RIP to the brave man...

Too bad so many are running to Obama's defense and attempting to skew reality... I don't care what Politician said what... Anyone that doesn't acknowledge the cluster **** of chaos that has been foreign relations this week is high as a kite...

He had a less violent but equally ridiculous foreign policy week a few months ago...

He's a terrible President in the States and a terribly empathetic one overseas...

If your rebuttal is 'And Romney will be better?' don't even ****ing bother...

SafetyBlitz · 09-12-2012, 06:41 PM

Really, Afghanistan, Gitmo and the "selection process" for the drone program are my problem with Obama.

Has Romney said he'll do anything different in those situations?

DeanPatsFan · 09-12-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyo7

Yes lets support t corrupt brutal dictatorships over what the people want.

Oblamebush only does that when the dictatorships are our enemies..

See Iran.

09-12-2012, 07:37 AM	#1
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,683	Foreign Relations Obama and Biden touting themselves as having great experience in foreign policy and relations. Helping mend GWB's foibles. Current situation: 1. Obama refuses to meet with Netanyahu to discuss Iran. 2. Russia and China give Obama and Hillatry the finger over Syria. 3. China threatening (over our objections) Japan on disputed islands. 4. Egyptians storm the U.S. embassy, burning our flag and causing destruction. 5.. Libyans attacking and KILLING the U.S. ambassodor there and three persons with him. 6. Continued strife (bombings) in Iraq and Afghanistan with increasing U.S. deaths in the latter. This within the last day or so. Does this sound like everything is well in hand?

09-12-2012, 08:53 AM	#2
SINYJets Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,197	What do you want Obama to do? He has a very important interview on Letterman coming up.

09-12-2012, 02:10 PM	#5
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,683	And now our trash president (yes, I am annoyed) has apologized for some movie which offended Moslem religious beliefs and resulted in the attack on our Egytian embassy and the murder of our Libyan ambssador and 3 American workers. It OUR fault and hence WE DESERVED IT. Kind of sounds like the Jeremiah Wright garbage. Obama hates America. As does his wife. He wants a socialist style nation. All aid should be cut off to all Moslem countries. It does give me pleasure to see all the Syrians being killed. They would kill US if they had the chance. And 300+ Pakistanis went up in factory fires. I feel no sympathy. We should feel positive about those who hate us? Stupid.

09-12-2012, 02:16 PM	#6
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,693	Looks as though you guys missed that there are now Marines deployed in Australia to respond to China..... http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8F3DU920120404 President Obama is light years ahead of Bush when it comes to foreign relations and Romney is not even close to Bush

09-12-2012, 04:47 PM	#13
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,939	Fascinating that the right wing guys who hate Obama for talking softly have apparently missed the fact that this administration has no issue killing our enemies on a regular basis. I suspect the perps of this crime will be dead in short order. Obama on balance has handled these situations pretty well.

09-12-2012, 06:39 PM	#18
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,452	The last time a US Ambassador was killed, Jimmy Carter was in the WH... RIP to the brave man... Too bad so many are running to Obama's defense and attempting to skew reality... I don't care what Politician said what... Anyone that doesn't acknowledge the cluster ** of chaos that has been foreign relations this week is high as a kite... He had a less violent but equally ridiculous foreign policy week a few months ago... He's a terrible President in the States and a terribly empathetic one overseas... If your rebuttal is 'And Romney will be better?' don't even **ing bother...

09-12-2012, 06:41 PM	#19
SafetyBlitz Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,997	Really, Afghanistan, Gitmo and the "selection process" for the drone program are my problem with Obama. Has Romney said he'll do anything different in those situations?