boomer and carton just said revis isnt playing - Page 3

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

I heard Carton say it, but sounded like he was just assuming. He said something to the effect of "Jets vs. Steelers, no Revis, but also No Harrison and possibly Troy Polomalu."

He is a Jets fan, so seems like he is just preparing for the worst.

I think Revis will play. He is not the kind of player who is involved in a lot of collisions, and the hit wasnt something devastating. I still feel like this is more of a smokescreen than anything.

How could it be a smokescreen?

I think it's been reported accurately and honestly from Day 1.

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

Yawn

“It’s not my call. It’s the doctors’ call,” Revis said. “Whatever they say goes. I would try to be out there with a broken leg. They know that. It’s a competitive spirit in me that just wants to go out there and play. If I feel fine, which I do, then we’ll go from there.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz26S6q1G1r

Ruby shuts down Scott.

SMC · 09-14-2012, 10:52 AM

It's pretty cut and dry. Revis has to pass the baseline comparison test. If he passes, he'll play and if not, he won't.

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC

It's pretty cut and dry. Revis has to pass the baseline comparison test. If he passes, he'll play and if not, he won't.

Yup.

John_0515 · 09-14-2012, 10:58 AM

Does anyone else think this is just protocol with a sprinkle of smokescreen, and that he packs his bags and flies to Pittsburgh tomorrow?

BRONX JET · 09-14-2012, 10:59 AM

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Darrelle Revis (concussion) is expected to play against the Steelers in Week 2.
Revis is in a race to complete the league's concussion protocols before Sunday's game. "Essentially he looks to be a go at this point in time," Schefter said. Revis, who is from Pittsburgh and played at Pitt, would be a candidate to shadow Mike Wallace or Antonio Brown.

Green&White51 · 09-14-2012, 11:01 AM

Even if he doesn't play, I think it will be a good opportunity for the defense to show what they can do without him.

SMC · 09-14-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Yup.

Compared to other injuries, being cleared to play after a concussions is straight forward.

Player has to be asymptomatic (no headaches, no blurred vision, no nausea, etc.) and pass the test.

Because of the nature of other injuries, being cleared is not so simple.

John_0515 · 09-14-2012, 11:02 AM

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Darrelle Revis (concussion) is expected to play against the Steelers in Week 2.
Revis is in a race to complete the league's concussion protocols before Sunday's game. "Essentially he looks to be a go at this point in time," Schefter said. Revis, who is from Pittsburgh and played at Pitt, would be a candidate to shadow Mike Wallace or Antonio Brown.

Experts.

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BRONX JET

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When was this quote published? There was a similar one early yesterday.

C Mart · 09-14-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by John_0515

Experts.

pure speculation by Shefter....

He needs to pass the NFL mandated tests..It's not like an ankle injury..

Gastineau99 · 09-14-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

pure speculation by Shefter....

He needs to pass the NFL mandated tests..It's not like an ankle injury..

He will pass the tests... especially since he never even had a concussion.

#Smokescreen

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

pure speculation by Shefter....

He needs to pass the NFL mandated tests..It's not like an ankle injury..

Schefter probably gets the baseline test results on his iPhone.

Jordy · 09-14-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

He will pass the tests... especially since he never even had a concussion.

#Smokescreen

I could be wrong but I think it's against NFL rules to lie about an injury.

Gastineau99 · 09-14-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

How could it be a smokescreen?

I think it's been reported accurately and honestly from Day 1.

He got kicked in the head, came out of the game because it was a blowout. If it wasn't a blowout, he would have finished the game, and there would be no talk of a concussion. Jets are being precautionary, but I think they are also milking it a bit to keep the Steelers guessing. Revis doesn't need to be on the field for practice. Hes doing drills and in film room, so he'll be ready.

C Mart · 09-14-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

He will pass the tests... especially since he never even had a concussion.

#Smokescreen

So the report the other day how he suffered a mild concussion was a lie? And Revis saying he was "foggy" is also a lie?

Gastineau99 · 09-14-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I could be wrong but I think it's against NFL rules to lie about an injury.

well, there is no such thing as a "mild concussion", you either have one or you don't. The fact that is was listed as "mild" means it wasn't a concussion. There is no way to prove or disprove a concussion, and I don't think the Jets are lying.

C Mart · 09-14-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

well, there is no such thing as a "mild concussion", you either have one or you don't. The fact that is was listed as "mild" means it wasn't a concussion. There is no way to prove or disprove a concussion, and I don't think the Jets are lying.

I believe the NFL has concussion baseline tests?

Gastineau99 · 09-14-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

I believe the NFL has concussion baseline tests?

OK, please explain how they are done. Did they give him a brain scan?

If it's done by asking the player "does your head hurt? are you dizzy? are you nauseous?" Then that's not a real test.

C Mart · 09-14-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

OK, please explain how they are done. Did they give him a brain scan?

If it's done by asking the player "does your head hurt? are you dizzy? are you nauseous?" Then that's not a real test.

The NFL's Standardized Concussion Tests

For the first time, all 32 teams will have the same guidelines to evaluate a player's condition. "The guidelines are voluntary, not mandatory," says Dr. Ellenbogen, "but then most of the team physicians have been using most of the same methods."

The examination has three elements: neurological testing, with a doctor checking eye movement; cognitive tests, with the player answering standardized questions; and a balance test. So how do you pass?

"The cognitive tests involve questions anyone can answer," says Princeton University's Margot Putukian, chair of the NFL's Return-to-Play Subcommittee. "Where are we? Who are we playing? What's the score?

Who did we play last week? Did we win? They're also asked to list numbers and months backwards," Dr. Putukian adds.

"The balance test," explains Dr. Ellenbogen, "is not unlike a police sobriety test. The BESS—Balance Error Scoring System—is a quantifiable evaluation which requires the player to stand in three positions, such as weight on one leg like a stork, with hands on hips and eyes closed for 20 seconds."

How do you know if you passed? "The results are compared with neuropsychological testing that each player takes before the season," Dr. Putukian says.

But the treatment doesn't end there. Nirav K. Shah, a neurosurgeon with Princeton Brain & Spine Care, commends both the NFL and the players for the improved guidelines, but cautions that this should be just the first step.

"Persistent symptoms after concussions," he says, "require independent evaluation—persistent is the key.

Follow-up care might require from hours to months. The NFL doesn't consider this problem resolved when the game clock runs out."

"In modern sports medicine," Dr. Putukian says, "there's no such thing as an offseason for the physicians."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...205150580.html

09-14-2012, 10:52 AM	#43
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	It's pretty cut and dry. Revis has to pass the baseline comparison test. If he passes, he'll play and if not, he won't.

09-14-2012, 10:58 AM	#45
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	Does anyone else think this is just protocol with a sprinkle of smokescreen, and that he packs his bags and flies to Pittsburgh tomorrow?

09-14-2012, 11:01 AM	#47
Green&White51 All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,172	Even if he doesn't play, I think it will be a good opportunity for the defense to show what they can do without him.