When is a win not a win?

SpiritOfWeeb · 09-23-2012, 07:19 PM

The answer would be when the Jets win.

Does the media and some of the tro...fans that post here give the Jets credit when they almost beat a really good team?

Bottom line is the Jets have 2 wins in division. That is huge regardless of what the [clown] media and trolls think.

Vin · 09-23-2012, 07:27 PM

That's true but let's face facts :

This Jets team NEEDED two MISSED Miami FGs to have a shot at winning in the end.....

Think about that.....

If Miami makes one of those, it would be an entirely new conversation going on right now.

I against I · 09-23-2012, 07:32 PM

We can all take into account that the ineptitude of the Dolphins play had something to do with the Jets victory, but when it all comes into play; in a few weeks time or in a few years, it's still a W in the best sense.

SgtAshton · 09-23-2012, 07:39 PM

If....If was a fifth we'd all be drunk.

If Lewis never hits Bledsoe
If Welker catches that ball
If tyree drops that ball
If Norwood makes that kick
If Harrison doesn't score before the half
If garret doesn't ice his own kicker..........ect ect ect that's football and at the end none of it matters but W's and L's.
Did I think we got out played yes. The execution on the field sucked. Same ole complaints from me. Bad QB accuracy and when he's accurate they drop it. We win the point of attack on defense and the running back squirts out the backside for yardage when it should be a TFL. Wilson is ALWAYS in a trail technique. Shaun Greene is still starting blah blah blah ect ect ect. Basically FOCUS they lack focus

Nobody will care about this game in Dec/Feb because its a W.

shuler82 · 09-23-2012, 07:40 PM

the jets looked bad.

but even championship teams pull out games during the season which they have no business winning.

not saying the jets are a super bowl bound team, but i'd rather be 2-1 than 1-2.

jzelada121 · 09-23-2012, 07:41 PM

never

Apache 51 · 09-23-2012, 07:42 PM

When it's a loss.

TheMikeIsHot · 09-23-2012, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin

That's true but let's face facts :

This Jets team NEEDED two MISSED Miami FGs to have a shot at winning in the end.....

Think about that.....

If Miami makes one of those, it would be an entirely new conversation going on right now.

If Sanchez doesn't miss two easy TD passes -- both teams can play the 'what if' bullsht.

The Jets WON the GAME.

Think about that.....

ricard78 · 09-23-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtAshton

If....If was a fifth we'd all be drunk.

If Lewis never hits Bledsoe
If Welker catches that ball
If tyree drops that ball
If Norwood makes that kick
If Harrison doesn't score before the half
If garret doesn't ice his own kicker..........ect ect ect that's football and at the end none of it matters but W's and L's.
Did I think we got out played yes. The execution on the field sucked. Same ole complaints from me. Bad QB accuracy and when he's accurate they drop it. We win the point of attack on defense and the running back squirts out the backside for yardage when it should be a TFL. Wilson is ALWAYS in a trail technique. Shaun Greene is still starting blah blah blah ect ect ect. Basically FOCUS they lack focus

Nobody will care about this game in Dec/Feb because its a W.

If Miami hadn't called that time out.

iahawkeyejet · 09-23-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

If Sanchez doesn't miss two easy TD passes -- both teams can play the 'what if' bullsht.

The Jets WON the GAME.

Think about that.....

Thank you.

SlickBri481 · 09-23-2012, 07:46 PM

The Jets have shown the last 2 weeks that they are not a very good team at all. They were quite fortunate to be playing one of the worst teams in football today, and even then needed some luck on top of that (missed FGs). They will not win many games this season if they continue to play like this. Homers see a win and think everything is perfect. This is not a very good football team right now and anyone who thinks it is has not been watching.

sg3 · 09-23-2012, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin

That's true but let's face facts :

This Jets team NEEDED two MISSED Miami FGs to have a shot at winning in the end.....

Think about that.....

If Miami makes one of those, it would be an entirely new conversation going on right now.

Things exactly like that happen to every NFL team EVERY week Vin.

Think how that Seahawk opponent must have felt in week one when Oopsies Edwards dropped an easy sure TD pass to hand them a win.

A WIN IS A WIN

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jzelada121 · 09-23-2012, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickBri481

The Jets have shown the last 2 weeks that they are not a very good team at all. They were quite fortunate to be playing one of the worst teams in football today, and even then needed some luck on top of that (missed FGs). They will not win many games this season if they continue to play like this. Homers see a win and think everything is perfect. This is not a very good football team right now and anyone who thinks it is has not been watching.

So might as well enjoy this win

PlumberKhan · 09-23-2012, 07:51 PM

The comma contained in your signature is unnecessary.

FreemanMC · 09-23-2012, 07:52 PM

I had to miss the entire game and I've only seen a few highlights ... but how in the hell did they let that "completion" to Fasano count?? The one where the ball clearly comes out when he hits the ground? I guess they converted that into a 1 yd TD plunge, did they not? How come nobody "on our side" talks much about stuff like that??

Vin · 09-23-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

If Sanchez doesn't miss two easy TD passes -- both teams can play the 'what if' bullsht.

The Jets WON the GAME.

Think about that.....

This whole GAME was BULLSHT.

Think about THAT.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg3

Things exactly like that happen to every NFL team EVERY week Vin.

Think how that Seahawk opponent must have felt in week one when Oopsies Edwards dropped an easy sure TD pass to hand them a win.

A WIN IS A WIN

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I just knew you were going there.

SlickBri481 · 09-23-2012, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzelada121

So might as well enjoy this win

Any win is good, but I think the fanbase should be far more concerned by what they saw today than what happened last week. On the road against a good Pittsburgh team is excusable. Today was not. Bills are 2-1 also, does anyone think they're a good team? Record right now is not necessarily indicative of how great a team is, some teams played very difficult opponents early on, others have played easy ones. We fall in the latter category. Broncos for example played Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Houston. Does anyone think we would be 2-1 if we had their schedule? Come on

FreemanMC · 09-23-2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickBri481

Any win is good, but I think the fanbase should be far more concerned by what they saw today than what happened last week. On the road against a good Pittsburgh team is excusable. Today was not. Bills are 2-1 also, does anyone think they're a good team? Record right now is not necessarily indicative of how great a team is, some teams played very difficult opponents early on, others have played easy ones. We fall in the latter category. Broncos for example played Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Houston. Does anyone think we would be 2-1 if we had their schedule? Come on

I don't post frequently ... but it gets kind of frustrating when everyone seems to get shoved into one of two categories. Supposedly, half of us think that because the team is 2-1, there aren't any issues/problems/concerns. OR, the other half of us think we're absolute crap with no chance of improvement - quite possibly one of the worst teams in the league.
Can't I just be glad we're 2-1 - it could be worse, couldn't it? - and hope we make some much-needed improvements and continue to get better? I think many more of us are in this "category" than the others.

iahawkeyejet · 09-23-2012, 08:02 PM

I bet Pittsburgh would take an ugly win right now against one of the worst teams in the NFL.

San Franscisco probably would have too.

SlickBri481 · 09-23-2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iahawkeyejet

I bet Pittsburgh would take an ugly win right now against one of the worst teams in the NFL.

San Franscisco probably would have too.

Pittsburgh took an easy win against us. Niners will probably do the same. Your point?

09-23-2012, 07:19 PM	#1
SpiritOfWeeb Liberals suck! Rookie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 52	When is a win not a win? The answer would be when the Jets win. Does the media and some of the tro...fans that post here give the Jets credit when they almost beat a really good team? Bottom line is the Jets have 2 wins in division. That is huge regardless of what the [clown] media and trolls think.

09-23-2012, 07:27 PM	#2
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,084	That's true but let's face facts : This Jets team NEEDED two MISSED Miami FGs to have a shot at winning in the end..... Think about that..... If Miami makes one of those, it would be an entirely new conversation going on right now.

09-23-2012, 07:32 PM	#3
I against I drinks from the poison well Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jackson Heights Posts: 2,212	We can all take into account that the ineptitude of the Dolphins play had something to do with the Jets victory, but when it all comes into play; in a few weeks time or in a few years, it's still a W in the best sense.

09-23-2012, 07:39 PM	#4
SgtAshton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 274	If....If was a fifth we'd all be drunk. If Lewis never hits Bledsoe If Welker catches that ball If tyree drops that ball If Norwood makes that kick If Harrison doesn't score before the half If garret doesn't ice his own kicker..........ect ect ect that's football and at the end none of it matters but W's and L's. Did I think we got out played yes. The execution on the field sucked. Same ole complaints from me. Bad QB accuracy and when he's accurate they drop it. We win the point of attack on defense and the running back squirts out the backside for yardage when it should be a TFL. Wilson is ALWAYS in a trail technique. Shaun Greene is still starting blah blah blah ect ect ect. Basically FOCUS they lack focus Nobody will care about this game in Dec/Feb because its a W.

09-23-2012, 07:40 PM	#5
shuler82 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: hoboken Posts: 5,664	the jets looked bad. but even championship teams pull out games during the season which they have no business winning. not saying the jets are a super bowl bound team, but i'd rather be 2-1 than 1-2.

09-23-2012, 07:41 PM	#6
jzelada121 We need more DL!!! All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,142	never

09-23-2012, 07:42 PM	#7
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,613	When it's a loss.

09-23-2012, 07:46 PM	#11
SlickBri481 Heal up Darrelle... All Pro Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,351	The Jets have shown the last 2 weeks that they are not a very good team at all. They were quite fortunate to be playing one of the worst teams in football today, and even then needed some luck on top of that (missed FGs). They will not win many games this season if they continue to play like this. Homers see a win and think everything is perfect. This is not a very good football team right now and anyone who thinks it is has not been watching.

09-23-2012, 07:51 PM	#14
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	The comma contained in your signature is unnecessary.

09-23-2012, 07:52 PM	#15
FreemanMC thinking Sanchez may be our Moses Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 570	I had to miss the entire game and I've only seen a few highlights ... but how in the hell did they let that "completion" to Fasano count?? The one where the ball clearly comes out when he hits the ground? I guess they converted that into a 1 yd TD plunge, did they not? How come nobody "on our side" talks much about stuff like that??

09-23-2012, 08:02 PM	#19
iahawkeyejet On Iowa All League Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,651	I bet Pittsburgh would take an ugly win right now against one of the worst teams in the NFL. San Franscisco probably would have too.