Eli Mannings receivers - Page 2

Vin · 10-15-2012, 04:46 PM

The idea that Eli would be as successful on the Jets as he has been on the Giants is borderline insane.

The Giants FO, unlike the Jets, knows what to do to surround Eli with players to help him succeed.

The Jets would do the exact thing they've done with Mark : Surround him with NOTHING.

And you all think Eli's so-called "Greatness" would still shine through?

Not even Joe Montana in his prime could make this Jets team competitive.

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 10-15-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vin

The idea that Eli would be as successful on the Jets as he has been on the Giants is borderline insane.

The Giants FO, unlike the Jets, knows what to do to surround Eli with players to help him succeed.

The Jets would do the exact thing they've done with Mark : Surround him with NOTHING.

And you all think Eli's so-called "Greatness" would still shine through?

Not even Joe Montana in his prime could make this Jets team competitive.

Yes. Absolutely. Greatness shines through. So does passing accuracy.

Vin · 10-15-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

Yes. Absolutely. Greatness shines through. So does passing accuracy.

Then, (and I say this with the utmost respect toward you), YOU'RE LOONEY-TUNES!

Surround a Great QB with crap, and you'll get crap as a result. Maybe he elevates that crap into Mediocre but that's about it.

FMJets · 10-15-2012, 04:56 PM

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If Eli sucked, the excuse would be that he doesn't have any weapons.

Put Eli on the Jets and he would throw for 300 yards a game.

No way on that last statement. Starting from last year, Ill make a list and you guys decide who would you rather have on your team. (I'll mix it up for fun).

Holmes
Hixon
Kerley
Nicks
Burress
Manningham
Mason
Cruz
Turner
J Hill
S Hill
Gates
Schillens

I bet if you were to pick 4 guys most would be Giants. Giants receivers seem to break tackles (especially Cruz) and make outstanding catches (Hixon). Jets guys dont have that quickness and the lack the speed to take it to the house if they break away.

Vin · 10-15-2012, 05:00 PM

^ Oh I'd select Patrick Turner. HE'S THE GREATEST!!!

Charlie Brown · 10-15-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

My point is that good and/or great QBs can complain about the defense being bad. They can complain about a swiss cheese o-line....

But really good QBs can still thrive with mediocre receiving corps. Eli absolutely has - but for Sanchez, it's just another excuse to explain why he sucks.

Just think about it. When did Eli Manning ever have a very poor WR corp.

Eli has had HOF caliber RBs see Barber (he was better IMO than CM)...

And All pro WRs and TEs like Shockey...

When did Eli ever have a terrible offensive talent around the answer is NEVER!!!

The Giants focused on surrounding Manning with excellent talent. Their HC was an offensive coach and not myopic in his viewpoint regarding defense where Rex was a DC coach who didn't until this year respect what the offense did!!!!

It is for this reason alone that tells you why Coughlin would never permit the Giants WR corp to be like the Jets becuase he knows what he is doing!!!!!

FijiJet · 10-15-2012, 05:14 PM

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Giants passing game is almosty always in synch. The WRs make great plays, but they generally know where the ball is going to be and when they are going to get it. Jets WRs enjoy no such certainty with Sanchez, he is all over the place and frequently doesn't even give them a chance to make a nice catch. When your passing game is in synch, you see great catches. Look at last night with the Packers.

This is true. Giants players familiarity with each other and their passing routes seem on a different level than the Jets. It also comes with more playing time together and experience etc. Sanchez doesn't have that familiarity with his WR's. And the only WR's who had familiarity and would go all out on every play are gone.

Vin · 10-15-2012, 05:25 PM

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This is true. Giants players familiarity with each other and their passing routes seem on a different level than the Jets. It also comes with more playing time together and experience etc. Sanchez doesn't have that familiarity with his WR's. And the only WR's who had familiarity and would go all out on every play are gone.

Now whom are you referring to, I wonder?

SlickBri481 · 10-15-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vin

The idea that Eli would be as successful on the Jets as he has been on the Giants is borderline insane.

The Giants FO, unlike the Jets, knows what to do to surround Eli with players to help him succeed.

The Jets would do the exact thing they've done with Mark : Surround him with NOTHING.

And you all think Eli's so-called "Greatness" would still shine through?

Not even Joe Montana in his prime could make this Jets team competitive.

Yeah, such all-world talent like low round draft picks in Barden and Hixon, and free agent pickups like Cruz. And what have the Giants done with their TEs? Anytime one of them developed, they either traded the guy or let them chase money following the season.

Kerley would be having a big season right now if Eli was throwing him the ball. He's flashed that type of ability this season, he just isn't in the right offense right now. And we know Holmes career path would look remarkably different had he been traded to the Giants, not Jets.

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 10-15-2012, 06:12 PM

There is no arguing with those in the Cult of Sanchez. No one can possibly be successful in this offense! No one I tell ya!

The bottom line is that Eli was the Jets QB, we'd probably be 5-1 right now.

Charlie Brown · 10-15-2012, 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=Traitor Jay & the Woodies;4646961]There is no arguing with those in the Cult of Sanchez. No one can possibly be successful in this offense! No one I tell ya!

The bottom line is that Eli was the Jets QB, we'd probably be 5-1 right now.

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Who is arguing that Sanchez is as good as Eli Manning!!

No one, but the idea that surrounding talent around a great QB doesn't help that QB doesn't make any sense and is simply not true.

If that was the case teams with quality QBs wouldn't draft any offensive talent they would just let their QBs elevate their undrafted FA and let the QB turn those WRs into Jerry Rice!!!

Come on now......

Vin · 10-15-2012, 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=Charlie Brown;4646983]

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

There is no arguing with those in the Cult of Sanchez. No one can possibly be successful in this offense! No one I tell ya!

The bottom line is that Eli was the Jets QB, we'd probably be 5-1 right now.

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Who is arguing that Sanchez is as good as Eli Manning!!

No one, but the idea that surrounding talent around a great QB doesn't help that QB doesn't make any sense and is simply not true.

If that was the case teams with quality QBs wouldn't draft any offensive talent they would just let their QBs elevate their undrafted FA and let the QB turn those WRs into Jerry Rice!!!

Come on now......

THANK YOU!

Now can you please explain that to the Doctor of Style..SlickBri481?

10-15-2012, 04:46 PM	#21
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,123	The idea that Eli would be as successful on the Jets as he has been on the Giants is borderline insane. The Giants FO, unlike the Jets, knows what to do to surround Eli with players to help him succeed. The Jets would do the exact thing they've done with Mark : Surround him with NOTHING. And you all think Eli's so-called "Greatness" would still shine through? Not even Joe Montana in his prime could make this Jets team competitive.

10-15-2012, 05:00 PM	#25
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,123	^ Oh I'd select Patrick Turner. HE'S THE GREATEST!!!

10-15-2012, 06:12 PM	#30
Traitor Jay & the Woodies is down with the cause. Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: The Eternal Blackness of My Mind Posts: 3,703	There is no arguing with those in the Cult of Sanchez. No one can possibly be successful in this offense! No one I tell ya! The bottom line is that Eli was the Jets QB, we'd probably be 5-1 right now.

10-15-2012, 06:26 PM	#31
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,513	[QUOTE=Traitor Jay & the Woodies;4646961]There is no arguing with those in the Cult of Sanchez. No one can possibly be successful in this offense! No one I tell ya! The bottom line is that Eli was the Jets QB, we'd probably be 5-1 right now. [/QUOTE ] Who is arguing that Sanchez is as good as Eli Manning!! No one, but the idea that surrounding talent around a great QB doesn't help that QB doesn't make any sense and is simply not true. If that was the case teams with quality QBs wouldn't draft any offensive talent they would just let their QBs elevate their undrafted FA and let the QB turn those WRs into Jerry Rice!!! Come on now......