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not a rocket surgeon
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Idle cash piles up: David Cay Johnston
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86F0GK20120716
Yup. These guys need a tax cut. ![]() More evidence that trickle down MAY have worked in the past but it certainly isn’t working now. Quote:
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People with money have power and ought not be antagonized.
In the 1930s FDR entered the White House and raised taxes/fees/regulations on American businesses. As a direct result those American businesses closed their doors and laid off employees rather than comply and give their money to the US government. And the Depression became the Great Depression.
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It's no surprise. Why would any intelligent CEO put capital in play in the U.S. when regulatory and tax policy is in flux.
Their job is to make money. If it is to be made outside the U.S. - good. Draconian policies here - Obama is anti business (pro communist) - why invest here? Any business TV show or newspaper column has been beating this drum for a long time. For those of us who know a CEO or CFO, ask them. Even a mid sized company exec will let you know. |
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BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12...
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These are the same people who set the system up the way it is today.
Don't fall for their smoke and mirrors about how doing business in this country is so horrible. Last time I checked, High Tax New York doesn't look like Detroit.... |
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Have not been in NYC for a bit. Have the South Bronx, Harlem, Bedford Stuyvesant, East NY, Brownsville, South Ozone Park all been cleaned up and gentrified? Doing business in the U.S. is becoming more difficult. And companies ARE moving production elsewhere if they can. Look at the labels of some products you buy. many former U.S. produced products are now from Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico. And Asia. |
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This guy spoonfeeds it to you like it's Gerbers, and moonbat mouthfoamers still won't get it:
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not a rocket surgeon
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Ha None of this addresses the $1.7 trillion in cash in the US or the estimated $5.1 trillion worldwide. This video is just a lot of angry name calling There is a huge supply of cash in the hands of the "job creators". Why arm't they using it to ... create jobs? Isn't that what the GOP constantly claims is the solution to our economic problems? A “supply” of cash to invest is needed thus a 20% tax cut is a great idea for all? |
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So is the answer more food stamps for the welfare recepitants who continually steal money from the government while they work under the table? And no, I'm not talking about EVERYONE on welfare. But there's plenty of scumbags. So pick your poison.
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Bye week buh bye Rex
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Thats a lot of money that needs redistributing.
We do need a higher tax rate and less loopholes but what we need more is a smaller gov't. Forget taxes, we could confiscate the entire wealth of the 1% and still be in the red. THAT is a problem. |
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This directly helps no one, in my opinion. The end game will become apparent soon enough. |
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BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12...
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What's gonna happen?
Zombie apocalypse? The US becomes Zimbabwe? Or will life go in has it has for the past 60 years? Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Sent from my 8.6 acre property with 4 bedroom house with waterfront views and low utility costs because of the gas well on my property using fireworks... |
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not a rocket surgeon
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We need a lot of things. like the Pentagon budget to be rduced below the current $600+ billion. Nobody has suggested confiscating the welath of the upper 1%. But the article i started this thread with said they are sitting on $5.1 trillion in CASH. They have enough wealth to pay off are debt. |
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It is cash on hand not income. Do you want to start taxing savings every year? The reason it is cash on hand instead of being put to use is because the business climate in the US is not favorable to growth. Government policy is actually encouraging contraction as you can see by companies laying people off all the time. Why risk your cash if there is nothing (more) to gain? Obamacare is a 1000 pages of unknowns and the waiver process is a joke. Why are some companies given a pass while others aren't? Just more loopholes. Exactly what we need and that is just one bill among tons of new regulations. How can a small business that can't pay a team of lawyers to decipher these regulations comply while being able to compete? Quote:
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Now....infrequent.
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Let me put that in perspective: 1 in 6 people in a hospital bed right now are in a Catholic hospital. Catholic hospitals cover the costs to the tune of about 28 billion annually for indigents. Catholic hospitals are one of (if not the) number one employer in NYC and in almost every other city in the USA. If you think you're healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free. |
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The attack on business is an attack on local and State governments who need accelerated appreciation of corporate earning in order to pay off the pensions for public employees all over this country. If you tax it those pension which are invested in that corporate cash, State and local governments will fail. All those people will go on Federal assistance. You will not solve the debt problem you will create a debt problem. The Stock market going up along with home prices going up is the only reason people are spending enough to create any demand right now. Wreck those 2 engines of demand and we will fall off the cliff and hit the bottom of the ocean. A government that fosters a good business environment will get businesses to use cash for investment. A government that fosters a bad business environment will do the opposite. Lagging demand coupled with a government that has given business a mixed message on investing is not going to lossen the grip on cash. The Obama Administration has been fighting risk since the markets crashed and nobody was willing to take on risk. Risk is what we need right now. Government debt being purchased at below real inflation rates shows that nobody is willing to risk money in the current environment fostered by our government or most any government across the globe. Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 11-12-2012 at 07:25 AM. |
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Make the welfare receipients work for their checks and no extra money when you have children while on welfare. Time to take the kid gloves off!
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so why side with anything?
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With that said, this entire situation is a product of a flawed system. You can't blame them for legally doing what is in their best interests. Reform is needed, and the solution lies with a simplified tax code that encourages investment in American workers. |
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