Did any of you really think we would be even decent?

[LanceMehl]

It never fails to amaze me how many fans can be so positive when all signs point to a horrible season. Did all of you who were predicting 9 and 10 win seasons really believe that? As soon as we signed Tebow I knew it was over. Sure they threw me for a little loop when we played the Bills but it has been all down hill from there. So the question is did you really really think we would be good or did you just wish and hope?

[Vin]

What we didn't expect was Mark going downhill so fast this year.....


What we didn't expect was all the INJURIES that plagued this team this year...


What we didn't expect was Shonn Greene being a huge pile of worthless crap this year....





You know what we DID expect, though?


REX RYAN BEING A COMPLETE MORON.

SPARANO BEING A COMPLETE MORON.

TANNY BEING A COMPLETE BALD-HEADED BUFFOON.

WOODY BEING A SILVER-SPOON-STUCK-UP-HIS-ASS RICH BOY.


and


THE JETS ONCE AGAIN KILLING US AND RIPPING OUR SOULS FROM OUR BODIES.

[SmellyFarts]

I at least thought the defense would be stellar.

[Vin]

^ okay....you have to be another poster who was banned or something.

I mean....Smellyfarts? REALLY?

[Dunnie]

I'm glad **** is hitting the fan ... Only way to inspire regime change.

[PaPZ187]

I thought we had a chance to win 9-10 games.

Looking at the additions on D, I thought we would easily be a Top 5 Defense. Then was expecting Mark to step up and build on last year, where he has improved slow but steadily up until this year. Hoped Sparano would get the run game going, Tebow play the Brad Smith role well and Sanchez would quiet the Tebow Lovers by playing half decent at least and win more than we lose. Add in our usual top tier Special Teams and I thought we would be between 7-10 wins.

We lost Revis, Holmes, and Sanchez confidence. Sparano was a move I have to kill Rex for, and I am a Rex supporter......but that might of sealed his fate unfortunately, in my opinion.

[LanceMehl]

With all the drama Tebow brings to any team he plays for you knew it was only a matter of time before things got really really bad.
Here is what we knew going in to this season.

We have a QB who is young could not win games by himself.
Shonn Greene is horrible
Holmes is a piece of crap
Even our D when very very good never could make the big stop.
Our Oline has been overated for years.
Still could not cover TE


Of course every single thing on this list went from bad to horrible but when you looked at our talent early on you knew we had no chance. This is not the least bit surprising to me.

[Buzzsaw]

Originally Posted by SmellyFarts

I at least thought the defense would be stellar.

Yeah same here. Looked good on paper and Rex hasn't ever coached a defense worse than 6th.

I knew the offense would suck though, the skill players are the worst in the league. There's not another team without at least one very good receiver, runningback or TE. Didn't expect Sanchez to come unglued though.

[NYJ37/12]

Originally Posted by Vin

What we didn't expect was Mark going downhill so fast this year.....


What we didn't expect was all the INJURIES that plagued this team this year...


What we didn't expect was Shonn Greene being a huge pile of worthless crap this year....





You know what we DID expect, though?


REX RYAN BEING A COMPLETE MORON.

SPARANO BEING A COMPLETE MORON.

TANNY BEING A COMPLETE BALD-HEADED BUFFOON.

WOODY BEING A SILVER-SPOON-STUCK-UP-HIS-ASS RICH BOY.


and


THE JETS ONCE AGAIN KILLING US AND RIPPING OUR SOULS FROM OUR BODIES.

take it easy on the bald headed thing...

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by Dunnie

I'm glad **** is hitting the fan ... Only way to inspire regime change.

Agreed. The worst thing that could happen is for us to go 9-7 and have Woody think, "Hmm...we're not so bad, I guess! Onward!".

Losing out would help not only in regime change, but draft position as well.

[LanceMehl]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Agreed. The worst thing that could happen is for us to go 9-7 and have Woody think, "Hmm...we're not so bad, I guess! Onward!".

Losing out would help not only in regime change, but draft position as well.

Problem is Woody is a major part of the problem. No way Rex and Tanny wanted to bring in Tebow. They all need to go. I think they need to blow this entire team up and start again. We can all wish Woody would sell the team but thats not happening. So it would be nice to bring in a guy who wont take crap from him and tell him to draft or trade for.

[shuler82]

I thought as long as Sanchez played like he did in the first 13 weeks of 2011, and the issues with Holmes appeared straightened out, that with our schedule, 9-10 wins was probable.

[PaPZ187]

Originally Posted by LanceMehl

With all the drama Tebow brings to any team he plays for you knew it was only a matter of time before things got really really bad.
Here is what we knew going in to this season.

We have a QB who is young could not win games by himself.
Shonn Greene is horrible
Holmes is a piece of crap
Even our D when very very good never could make the big stop.
Our Oline has been overated for years.
Still could not cover TE


Of course every single thing on this list went from bad to horrible but when you looked at our talent early on you knew we had no chance. This is not the least bit surprising to me.

While they have given up GW drives they have also held it down when it mattered most as well, its just not as memorable because its expected.

2009
Pats within 7 points or less all 4th qtr, still we won
Titans within 7 or less all 4th qtr, won by 7
2nd Bills game same story, all 4th down less than 1 score we win still
SD Playoff game we had HUGE stops with game on line, in a 1 score game (Rhodes fumble, Leonhard pick to lead to our first TD)

2010
Held Pats scoreless in 2nd half, ended up scoring a TD in 4th to extend to 2 score lead
Stopped Miami on their chance to tie the game on final drive
Stopped Minnesota with a Pick 6 when they were down less than a TD final drive
Stopped Denver on final drive with forced fumble when up 4
HUGE final drive stop at Pitt with them down 5
Indy Playoff game had HUGE D stops, and held them to FGs in their own building, setting the O up for the W
NE playoff game was a D masterpiece......still we held them on a long drive that resulted in no points midway through 4th qtr when looked like NE was gonna take momentum

2011
Dallas game HUGE stop multiple occasions in 2nd half, including game winning pick to set up FG
Big stops vs SD, including a INT by Wilson on final drive
Stopped Bills on final drive, ya whats his face should of caught a potential GW pass, should of would of could of
GW play by Maybin to sack and put Washington away



Yes there are plenty of examples of other teams getting GW drives as well, but to say we never come up big is just looking at it one sided. In todays NFL, the D is always at a disadvantage, but still didnt stop them from coming up big in the 4th atleast 3-4 times a year minimum

[Apache 51]

Originally Posted by PaPZ187

I thought we had a chance to win 9-10 games.

Looking at the additions on D, I thought we would easily be a Top 5 Defense. Then was expecting Mark to step up and build on last year, where he has improved slow but steadily up until this year. Hoped Sparano would get the run game going, Tebow play the Brad Smith role well and Sanchez would quiet the Tebow Lovers by playing half decent at least and win more than we lose. Add in our usual top tier Special Teams and I thought we would be between 7-10 wins.

We lost Revis, Holmes, and Sanchez confidence. Sparano was a move I have to kill Rex for, and I am a Rex supporter......but that might of sealed his fate unfortunately, in my opinion.

Agree, except easily and top tier.

[DDNYjets]

I have to admit, things are worse than I expected but only slightly. I predicted 5-11, 6-10 before the season.

Fully expected the offense to be bad. Yes, this bad. Sparano sucked in Miami, making him a Jet would not change things. Expected Sanchez to be inaccurate and make poor decisions, he has shown that his entire career. Doesn't just change b.c it is Year 4.

I expected the run D to suck. It has never been great, no matter what the stats say. Teams have always hurt us on the edges, now everyone knows about it and exploits it. I will say we have done a better job on the TE than I have expected. But the TEs have hurt us in crucial situations. I don't get caught up in Overall Rankings so whether we are #1, #5 or #15 doesn't bother me. This defense has rarely come up big when we needed them to. Didn't expect Harris to age in dog years. Oy, THAT contract .

Only thing I didn't expect were the struggles on STs. Although I did say that having Tebow as PP would come back to bite and it did on the blocked punt.

Another thing I didn't expect was for Rex to show absolutely ZERO GROWTH as a HC. He has proven that he learned NOTHING from last year. He is as ignorant as ever towards this team's problems. My expectations were never high but I did expect to see some growth.

[124]

Yes, I believed this team could win 9 or 10 games, otherwise I wouldn't have said it. I did however also could see this team only winning 5 or 6 games. This season was poised to go in one of two directions, and it's obviously going the latter.

I feel sorry for those who actually thought this team had a chance of winning 11-12 games.

I had them at 8-8 or 9-7, with an outside shot of 10-6.

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by 124

I feel sorry for those who actually thought this team had a chance of winning 11-12 games.

I know one poster who "guaranteed" 12 wins.

[Beerfish]

I thought that if all went right the team could be a playoff team. I thought getting Coples would generate more sacks watching him in pre season. I thought the safety position was upgraded.

I approved of the Tebow move because I thought A) They were going to run enough wildcat as to make it a good part of our offense thus taking pressure off of sanchez and B) That Tebows work ethic and winning attitude would rub off on sanchez.

The team is a major disappointment and the most disappointing part is the head coach and gm. I can't tell if they are lying to our faces each time they open their mouths or if they really are that stupid when defending certain parts of the team.

[124]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

I know one poster who "guaranteed" 12 wins.

LOL.

Me too.

[OneTime]

Just based on the what appeared to be a weak second half schedule I thought 8-8 possible... now all bets are off