Tannenbaum Was OK When Mangini Was Running the Show

Esiason2Moore TD · 11-18-2012, 10:34 AM

When Mangini had a lot of input in the personnel and player acquisition aspect of the organization, Tannenbaum was not an issue. By this time, everyone must know that Tannenbaum really is essentially a bean counter who has an alarmingly low understanding of the competitive football aspect of the game. But when someone as intelligent and knowledgeable as Mangini had a heavy input in the draft, player signings, and overall roster management of the team, the organization was doing well as far as player personnel issues were concerned, and seemed to be going in a constructive direction. But ever since Tannenbaum was paired up with Rex Ryan, the player personnel management... has slowly (but surely) been going in the wrong direction (to put it mildly). It hasn't just been treating draft picks in a laissez faire manner, it has also been an issue of bringing in players with character issues (and even a few who are terribly disruptive in the locker room and "cancers").
If they replaced Tannenbaum with someone else, would Rex Ryan still have heavy input in the personnel decisions? If Tannenbaum could be a non-issue with Mangini, then some (or a lot) of the accountability for the personnel issues has to fall with Rex Ryan. So the answer might be bringing in a head coach who could also bring in the right kind of players as well as being a good head coach. Rex Ryan has proven that he can run his father's defensive scheme well. But there must have been some reason why he and Pettine were canned in Baltimore.

sec.101row23 · 11-18-2012, 10:45 AM

I am not sure Mangini ever "ran the show". However he does seem to be a better judge of talent than Rex has been.

C Mart · 11-18-2012, 10:45 AM

Or the simple fact that Mangini was a better coach, instilled discipline and knew how to develop players better.

Borgoguy · 11-18-2012, 10:49 AM

Was he?

shuler82 · 11-18-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

Was he?

a lot of revisionist history around these parts lately.

Borgoguy · 11-18-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

a lot of revisionist history around these parts lately.

This mess did not happen overnight. That's for damn sure.

Apache 51 · 11-18-2012, 11:24 AM

Nothing but SB's, good times good times.

Apache 51 · 11-18-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

This mess did not happen overnight. That's for damn sure.

You almost made me cry, glad to see others know what's been going on.

Vin · 11-18-2012, 11:29 AM

I think the thread title is wrong. It should read :

Tannenbaum was OK When PARCELLS was running the show

'Cause really....Tanny's skill is crunching the Numbers, NOT being the Jets GM.

11-18-2012, 10:34 AM	#1
Esiason2Moore TD Boomer Esiason to Rob Moore: "The Long Island Connection" All League Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 585	Tannenbaum Was OK When Mangini Was Running the Show When Mangini had a lot of input in the personnel and player acquisition aspect of the organization, Tannenbaum was not an issue. By this time, everyone must know that Tannenbaum really is essentially a bean counter who has an alarmingly low understanding of the competitive football aspect of the game. But when someone as intelligent and knowledgeable as Mangini had a heavy input in the draft, player signings, and overall roster management of the team, the organization was doing well as far as player personnel issues were concerned, and seemed to be going in a constructive direction. But ever since Tannenbaum was paired up with Rex Ryan, the player personnel management... has slowly (but surely) been going in the wrong direction (to put it mildly). It hasn't just been treating draft picks in a laissez faire manner, it has also been an issue of bringing in players with character issues (and even a few who are terribly disruptive in the locker room and "cancers"). If they replaced Tannenbaum with someone else, would Rex Ryan still have heavy input in the personnel decisions? If Tannenbaum could be a non-issue with Mangini, then some (or a lot) of the accountability for the personnel issues has to fall with Rex Ryan. So the answer might be bringing in a head coach who could also bring in the right kind of players as well as being a good head coach. Rex Ryan has proven that he can run his father's defensive scheme well. But there must have been some reason why he and Pettine were canned in Baltimore.

11-18-2012, 10:45 AM	#2
sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,877	I am not sure Mangini ever "ran the show". However he does seem to be a better judge of talent than Rex has been.

11-18-2012, 10:45 AM	#3
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,314	Or the simple fact that Mangini was a better coach, instilled discipline and knew how to develop players better.

11-18-2012, 10:49 AM	#4
Borgoguy On a mission to educate and enthrall. Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,569	Was he?

11-18-2012, 11:24 AM	#7
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,826	Nothing but SB's, good times good times.

11-18-2012, 11:29 AM	#9
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,174	I think the thread title is wrong. It should read : Tannenbaum was OK When PARCELLS was running the show 'Cause really....Tanny's skill is crunching the Numbers, NOT being the Jets GM.