New Story: Rex won't give up on Top-5 Defense

JI BREAKING NEWS TICKER · 11-29-2012, 04:00 PM

JETS HEAD COACH 'STUNNED' BY DISMAL PASS RUSH PERFORMANCE BY DEFENSE.

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Rex Ryan was confident in training camp that he was the best defensive coordinator in the game. Not only that, but he beat his chest while defiantly announcing his 2012 defensive unit as the 'best group he's coached' since becoming a head coach.

After the New England Patriots put up 49 points on the Jets Thanksgiving evening, dropping them to the 19th-ranked defense in the NFL, Ryan, losing six of his last eight, is 'stunned' by the recent play of his defense -- particularly the...

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Piper · 11-29-2012, 04:11 PM

He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

dustykeller · 11-29-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper

He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

+1

Rex sounds like an Alzheimer's patient in his press conferences after a loss.

Flaming Mo · 11-29-2012, 04:18 PM

When looking at the bigger picture of pass rushing, however, the Jets individually still have trouble treading water. A Pro Football Focus study on Pass Rushing Productivity[ Sacks (1) + Hits (.75) + Hurries (.75) / # of pass rushing attempts x 100] indicates that only rookie DE Quinton Coples has been the most productive Jets pass rusher, scoring a 7.4 PRP after getting 16 QB pressures over 168 pass rushing snaps.

He ranked tied for tenth among inside pass rushers.

Even though Im not a big fan of these statistics but it proves what you can see on the field. Coples is always doing well when given enough playing time...

jetsfan1983 · 11-29-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper

He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

He does press conferences... He's obligated. And for you people sitting there and taking shots, he gets asked these questions.

Someone asks him today if he's willing to concede that his defense won't be top 5 and he didn't want to do that. But for all of the smart people who actually watched him, you could tell he pretty much did. He doesn't want it to get out to his players that he's willing to accept less from them.

DDNYjets · 11-29-2012, 04:23 PM

Is he going to find some meaningless stat the Jets finish in the Top 5 and then proclaim them a Top 5 defense.

Points
Yardage
3rd downs

Thats all that matters.

Beerfish · 11-29-2012, 04:26 PM

No problem with him wanting to be top 5 or expecting to be but without a shadow of a doubt he has grossly over estimated the quality of some parts of the defense. They had a massive weakness at safety and it took them a couple of years of grief to realize the talent was not there.

OLB's are a huge weakness. At least one inside backer is a huge weakness. Sometimes position coach or coordinator geniuses seem to think that scheme can cover up for poor players. It just isn't the case.

Piper · 11-29-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

He does press conferences... He's obligated. And for you people sitting there and taking shots, he gets asked these questions.

Someone asks him today if he's willing to concede that his defense won't be top 5 and he didn't want to do that. But for all of the smart people who actually watched him, you could tell he pretty much did. He doesn't want it to get out to his players that he's willing to accept less from them.

Learn how to give better non-answers. Because with this answer looks either insincere or stupid.

He still doesn't get it.

But why should he? The whole organization is a laughing stock, again.

Warfish · 11-29-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper

He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

Agreed.

Except "this point" was Week 1 of last season IMO.

DDNYjets · 11-29-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

He does press conferences... He's obligated. And for you people sitting there and taking shots, he gets asked these questions.

Someone asks him today if he's willing to concede that his defense won't be top 5 and he didn't want to do that. But for all of the smart people who actually watched him, you could tell he pretty much did. He doesn't want it to get out to his players that he's willing to accept less from them.

You are right. However, he should not even give them a real answer. He should say something like "We are just focusing on this game against Arizona. We need to play better on defense. "

Rex and the Jets always try to do things in bunches. They never got the memo about one play at a time, one game at a time.

patman · 11-29-2012, 05:05 PM

good article, but I hate when they say a corner shuts down 1/2 the field, he doesn't he takes the #1 receiver (if a wr) out of the game 90% of the time.

When Sanders was running around back there most teams sent out 3 players at most into patterns, now a days, teams send 5 no one player takes more than one guy.

SMC · 11-29-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper

He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

This

Statistically speaking, the Jets have been bad across the board. Folk, Malone and Cro are the only players performing above JAG status.

Jets deserve their bad record because they're a bad team.

Foggy · 11-29-2012, 05:54 PM

I knew it!

It's all Revis' fault...

Foggy · 11-29-2012, 06:00 PM

Pass rush aside, the Jets can shore up the run D by having Moore play defense.
Line him up facing ass-backwards to the LOS.

He's a run stopper!

Joe W. Namath · 11-29-2012, 06:16 PM

He wouldnt have to answer these questions if he kept his fat trap shut in the 1st place.

Mardukis · 11-29-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Is he going to find some meaningless stat the Jets finish in the Top 5 and then proclaim them a Top 5 defense.

Points
Yardage
3rd downs

Thats all that matters.

When we were a top 5 defense we couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.

The Giants, Eagles and Dolphins had no problem embarrassing the JETS and their D last year when it was highly ranked.

Rex is no longer credible.

AmericanMadman · 11-29-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JI BREAKING NEWS TICKER

JETS HEAD COACH 'STUNNED' BY DISMAL PASS RUSH PERFORMANCE BY DEFENSE.

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Rex Ryan was confident in training camp that he was the best defensive coordinator in the game.

Problem is he is not the dc for the jets. He is supposed to be the hc of the jets.

C Mart · 11-29-2012, 08:12 PM

This guy is a moron. All he cares about are stats. Always has to quote Sanchez's QB rating after each game. Do any other HCs quote or care about these meaningless stats.

Vin · 11-29-2012, 08:13 PM

All we need now is for SAR to make an appearance to point out how big a Moron that Rex is and this thread will be complete.

Iceman · 11-29-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper

Learn how to give better non-answers. Because with this answer looks either insincere or stupid.

He still doesn't get it.

But why should he? The whole organization is a laughing stock, again.

Agree 1000%, he doesn't get it. Tough having a coach so detached from reality.

11-29-2012, 04:00 PM	#1
JI BREAKING NEWS TICKER All Jets 24/7 Join Date: May 1999 Location: JI Land Posts: 1,590	New Story: Rex won't give up on Top-5 Defense JETS HEAD COACH 'STUNNED' BY DISMAL PASS RUSH PERFORMANCE BY DEFENSE. FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Rex Ryan was confident in training camp that he was the best defensive coordinator in the game. Not only that, but he beat his chest while defiantly announcing his 2012 defensive unit as the 'best group he's coached' since becoming a head coach. After the New England Patriots put up 49 points on the Jets Thanksgiving evening, dropping them to the 19th-ranked defense in the NFL, Ryan, losing six of his last eight, is 'stunned' by the recent play of his defense -- particularly the... More...

11-29-2012, 04:11 PM	#2
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	He should really just stop giving interviews at this point.

11-29-2012, 04:18 PM	#4
Flaming Mo All League Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Peter-Ording (Germany) Posts: 4,638	When looking at the bigger picture of pass rushing, however, the Jets individually still have trouble treading water. A Pro Football Focus study on Pass Rushing Productivity[ Sacks (1) + Hits (.75) + Hurries (.75) / # of pass rushing attempts x 100] indicates that only rookie DE Quinton Coples has been the most productive Jets pass rusher, scoring a 7.4 PRP after getting 16 QB pressures over 168 pass rushing snaps. He ranked tied for tenth among inside pass rushers. Even though Im not a big fan of these statistics but it proves what you can see on the field. Coples is always doing well when given enough playing time...

11-29-2012, 04:23 PM	#6
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,303	Is he going to find some meaningless stat the Jets finish in the Top 5 and then proclaim them a Top 5 defense. Points Yardage 3rd downs Thats all that matters.

11-29-2012, 04:26 PM	#7
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,090	No problem with him wanting to be top 5 or expecting to be but without a shadow of a doubt he has grossly over estimated the quality of some parts of the defense. They had a massive weakness at safety and it took them a couple of years of grief to realize the talent was not there. OLB's are a huge weakness. At least one inside backer is a huge weakness. Sometimes position coach or coordinator geniuses seem to think that scheme can cover up for poor players. It just isn't the case.

11-29-2012, 05:05 PM	#11
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,162	good article, but I hate when they say a corner shuts down 1/2 the field, he doesn't he takes the #1 receiver (if a wr) out of the game 90% of the time. When Sanders was running around back there most teams sent out 3 players at most into patterns, now a days, teams send 5 no one player takes more than one guy.

11-29-2012, 05:54 PM	#13
Foggy Lifer Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94	I knew it! It's all Revis' fault...

11-29-2012, 06:00 PM	#14
Foggy Lifer Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94	Pass rush aside, the Jets can shore up the run D by having Moore play defense. Line him up facing ass-backwards to the LOS. He's a run stopper!

11-29-2012, 06:16 PM	#15
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,829	He wouldnt have to answer these questions if he kept his fat trap shut in the 1st place.

11-29-2012, 08:12 PM	#18
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	This guy is a moron. All he cares about are stats. Always has to quote Sanchez's QB rating after each game. Do any other HCs quote or care about these meaningless stats.

11-29-2012, 08:13 PM	#19
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,132	All we need now is for SAR to make an appearance to point out how big a Moron that Rex is and this thread will be complete.