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Old 12-11-2012, 11:11 AM   #21
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The circus is driven by your clown of a HC.

All the media does is report the news.
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You know damn well that is horse****!
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:17 AM   #22
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The circus is driven by your clown of a HC.

All the media does is report the news.
All media does is report the news? wow, this comment could not be further from the truth in 2012. with this new breed of media, the news takes a backseat to TMZ-type stuff.

Even Cimini just wrote a column praising Rex for keeping his mouth shut and learning about making guarantees, etc. Think espn or NFL network will be talking about that? not juicy enough. don't believe the media, you only see what they want you to see
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:18 AM   #23
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I don't think anybody realizes this:

The hype in 2009 and 2010 were well founded, those teams had quality wins. The 2009 Jets beat the Pats and Colts in the regular season. And they had the best running game and defense in the NFL. That is huge.

The 2010 Jets again beat the Pats in the regular season and the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

Since the victory over the Pats in the 2010 Playoffs, this team has not beaten a team over .500 outside of Indy this year and Dallas last year.

Two teams perceived as sort of "meh."

Many will discredit these little factoids as meaningless.

But they mean everything to me:

If you can't beat quality teams (there are very few this year,) then even making the playoffs is sort of meaningless unless you are of course Paul Brown who thrives on making the playoffs and getting blown off the field against the first sign of resistance by anybody decent.

If you are happy making the playoffs and then praying that your opponent plays down below your level, feel free to go root for the Bills, Bengals, Tennessee or any of the other bastions of mediocrity out there.

Beyond that, the Jets don't have a QB. They haven't had one since Chad's first shoulder shredding. Winning in spite of your QB is not how you win Championships today.

Look at the Redskins, horrendous in so many facets, but a better record than the Jets and still in the ultra-competitive NFC playoff hunt simply because Shanahan knew that RG3 was a massive opportunity to maintain a competitive football team for years to come.

Do you think Fisher is going to be happy when he loses his job in 3-4 years because he made that trade? Do you think Fisher's blind loyalty to Bradford because he was the #1 overall pick in 2010 is even warranted?

Does it matter what you traded or what slot somebody is drafted more than what year he was drafted in, or who was passed on to maintain the insistence that a guy will "improve," like in Bradford's case?

Better question to sum it all up:

Would you have taken Luck and RG3 over Bradford if he was coming out this year? How about over Sanchez? Do you even look ahead as a GM to the following year's draft before committing years of "development," to the factor that will determine if you will be a potential Super Bowl contender or Pretender that is today's NFL QB?

My guess is that the great GM's undoubtedly do. And an owner who lets them do so is part of what makes a great owner vs. Woody Johnson who "can't get enough Tebow." I think some GM's will even tank via dogcrap talent to get out of middling ruts.

As such, if Tannenbaum was for real, he should be providing 3-4 hour power point presentations to Woody Johnson right now as to why it is vital that the Jets make a play for Manziel when he comes out.

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:21 AM   #24
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As such, if Tannenbaum was for real, he should be providing 3-4 hour power point presentations to Woody Johnson right now as to why it is vital that the Jets make a play for Manziel when he comes out.
Johnny Football to become Johnny Jet??? let's do it
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #25
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The Jets won a game so there is naturally an inclination to get our hopes up and sweep under the rug everything that has happened this season.

As a service to my fellow Jets fans, allow me to recap the many low points of the season:

- Sanchez or Tebow couldn't score a TD in the preseason
- Buffalo implodes during the opener and whimsical dreams of a powerful Jets offense appear.
- Jets lose by 17 to Pittsburgh and are brought back to earth. Sanchez's 11 incompletions to Holmes are blamed on replacement refs.
- Jets eek out a win against the woeful Dolphins
- Jets get blown out by 49ers 34-0. To add insult to injury, Jets can't execute the wildcat while the 49ers run over the Jets with it.
- Houston win 23-17. Red zone INT by Sanchez. Special teams TD. Another INT on the final drive seals the loss.
- Jets overpower the Colts 35-9
- Jets get the moral victory of the year versus the Patriots. Unfortunately it's in a loss: 29-26
- Dolphins blow out the Jets 30-9
- Jets offense can't find the end zone again again the Seahawks. Thankfully the defense does to prevent another shut out. Seahawks win 28-7
- Jets spoil Schotty's revenge with a win: 27-13
- Butt fumble and it's over in the first half. Pats destroy Jets on Thanksgiving 49-19
- Our starting QB couldn't get a TD against the Cardinals who were playing a rookie QB after losing 8 straight. McElroy saves the day: 7-6
- Jets dominate the 2 win Jaguars 17-10

That's four blow out losses where a backup should have got some time. Embarrassing gaffes on national TV. Wildcat failing. Sanchez booed. Calls for either backup. Rex repeating the same song and dance at press conference.

Thank you.

This team is for $hit. They have proved that each and every time they play a quality opponent that does not have a below high school caliber QB.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:29 AM   #26
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Johnny Football to become Johnny Jet??? let's do it
That play starts now. You want Manziel? You want this team to lose this week and then trade away that first rounder to Jacksonville or KC for their 2014 First rounder.

Doing so insures suckage next season for the Jets, hopefully getting them the top pick.

Next year's trash anyway. We're stuck with Sanchez and in Cap hell. Tank it, dump cap space make moves in FA and draft well. If you can't get Manziel, see my sig.

Clowney is going to be better than Aldon Smith. DE is the 2nd most important position in football.

Bets can be hedged on Manziel by talking Landry Jones in the 2nd round.

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:31 AM   #27
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THIS!!!!!


Rex and Woody are used car salesmen looking to blatantly lie to the fanbase to get ahead.

Our owner sucks........PERIOD! This is his creation, an ugly corporate shill of a team where there is much more that meets the eye than just "the best players play.".............
You know dude, we get it...you hate this team in the worst way

Do we need to read it from you on every single thread?
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #28
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You know dude, we get it...you hate this team in the worst way

Do we need to read it from you on every single thread?
He doesn't hate the team.

He hates Woody, because Woody is a rich, vocal, Republican.

Sadly, Copernicus is unable to seperate football from Politics.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #29
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Even the fans think this team is garbage but that is nothing new.


It may be Rex's best coaching job. This team has no business being 500 or around it. Our best players are injured and even the marginal players are hurt. We have a bottom 5 QB in the league yet he still finds a way to get this team to win games.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:38 AM   #30
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Even the fans think this team is garbage but that is nothing new.


It may be Rex's best coaching job. This team has no business being 500 or around it. Our best players are injured and even the marginal players are hurt. We have a bottom 5 QB in the league yet he still finds a way to get this team to win games.
Yeah, no.

Strength of schedule is trash.

Also doesn't take good coaching when you can win games as long as you never have to throw the ball against trash competition.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:08 PM   #31
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That play starts now. You want Manziel? You want this team to lose this week and then trade away that first rounder to Jacksonville or KC for their 2014 First rounder.

Doing so insures suckage next season for the Jets, hopefully getting them the top pick.

Next year's trash anyway. We're stuck with Sanchez and in Cap hell. Tank it, dump cap space make moves in FA and draft well. If you can't get Manziel, see my sig.

Clowney is going to be better than Aldon Smith. DE is the 2nd most important position in football.

Bets can be hedged on Manziel by talking Landry Jones in the 2nd round.
Wow.

Throw away two seasons so they can draft a DE.

That is without a doubt the worst idea I've ever seen.

You should never be allowed to talk about football ever again.

I'm really at a loss for words -- so stupid I don't know where to begin.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #32
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Exactly my point all along in blaming the media

The "circus" is pure media driven

The Tebow nonsense, all media driven, this is proved further with today's news that ESPN has admitted they overdid the Tebow coverage.

What has been a joke has been the media coverage all along.

But fans eat it up.
What other team in the history of professional football threw their backup QB a press conference and Q&A with the media?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #33
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That play starts now. You want Manziel? You want this team to lose this week and then trade away that first rounder to Jacksonville or KC for their 2014 First rounder.

Doing so insures suckage next season for the Jets, hopefully getting them the top pick.

Next year's trash anyway. We're stuck with Sanchez and in Cap hell. Tank it, dump cap space make moves in FA and draft well. If you can't get Manziel, see my sig.

Clowney is going to be better than Aldon Smith. DE is the 2nd most important position in football.

Bets can be hedged on Manziel by talking Landry Jones in the 2nd round.
So now we want a 6'0 qb with three years left?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:26 PM   #34
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So now we want a 6'0 qb with three years left?
Don't we already have one?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:38 PM   #35
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The media acts likes we are 2-11....bad

Chowd trolls act like we are 1-12...worse

The JI whining brigade of "realists" act like we are 0-13....worst

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:41 PM   #36
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Wow.

Throw away two seasons so they can draft a DE.

That is without a doubt the worst idea I've ever seen.

You should never be allowed to talk about football ever again.

I'm really at a loss for words -- so stupid I don't know where to begin.
Jadaveon Clowney is not just a DE. He's the best defensive prospect since Lawrence Taylor.

Watch South Carolina's bowl game. Realize that AS A FRESHMAN Clowney made Melvin Ingram a first round draft pick this year. Keep insisting that Clowney is "just a DE." Go ahead.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:42 PM   #37
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So now we want a 6'0 qb with three years left?
I want a real QB prospect drafted. Not best available.

Manziel looks special. Really special. You watch the game against Bama?

Probably not.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:46 PM   #38
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STFU Troll

You know damn well that is horse****!
Curious, why weren't we a national concern when Mangini was the coach? Edwards? Parcells?

We are here now because our coach has followed up huge, bold predictions about winning superbowls, meeting presidents, and taking 2 eyes for an eye with a whole lot of ineptitude, mouthing off from his players, foot fetish scandals, coaches mouthing off, in house fighting, on the field fighting between our own guys, a 53 million dollar superstar benched, a 1st round QB struggling mightily, and to it all we have added the most polarizing player in any sport on the planet in the mix, threw a huge press conference upon his arrival, repeatedly stated there were going to be some big secretive plays for him to be involved in, and then basically bench him every day.

Whether you care about the media or not, this is why they're doing it.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:47 PM   #39
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What other team in the history of professional football threw their backup QB a press conference and Q&A with the media?
What is it going to take to get it through some of your thick heads, the Jets responded to an abundance of media requests to put Tebow in front of the camera, this isn't something the team did on their own.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:52 PM   #40
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What is it going to take to get it through some of your thick heads, the Jets responded to an abundance of media requests to put Tebow in front of the camera, this isn't something the team did on their own.
Who held a gun to their head and told them to trade for Bozo the Punt Protector?

They knew JUST what was coming and WANTED the media attention.
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