Cimini: Sunday notes: The Jets' big hurt

C Mart · 12-16-2012, 09:25 AM

A look at the Jets and around the NFL:

1. Big pain, no gain: In the offseason, the Jets are planning to conduct a study on the injury bug that has plagued the team. In terms of games-lost due to injury, this could wind up being the highest total in eight years. Some injuries are just bad luck -- Darrelle Revis (knee), Santonio Holmes (foot) -- but they've suffered an inordinate number of soft-tissue injuries. That usually means players are out of shape.

"It's a concern," GM Mike Tannenbaum said. "Our strength-and-conditioning staff does a great job, but we need to see what we can do better. Traditionally, this is an area of strength for us. We will take a look at it."

ESPNNewYork.com obtained the Jets' games-lost totals since 2005. Here are the 13-game totals in each year; notice the rise in the injury rate coincides with the team's decline in 2011 and 2012:

2005 -- 173.5

2006 -- 93.25

2007 -- 101.75

2008 -- 112.25

2009 -- 74.50

2010 -- 84.75

2011 -- 136.50

2012 -- 168.0

2. The revolving roster: Because of all the injuries, Tannenbaum has been forced to tweak the roster on a weekly basis. So far, they've had 70 players on the 53-man roster. Since opening day, the Jets have made 72 transactions, including 44 directly involving the 53-man roster, according to the team. (The rest are practice-squad moves.) They've already surpassed last season's totals. In 2011, they had 69 transactions, including 25 involving the 53-man roster.

3. Seventeen (not the magazine): Braylon Edwards will wear his familiar No. 17, courtesy of rookie WR Jordan White, who ceded the number to the veteran wide receiver. In this case, 17 has another meaning: Edwards became the 17th wide receiver/tight end this season to have a spot on the 53-man roster. (That includes Antonio Cromartie and Tim Tebow, both of whom have lined up as pass catchers.) Seventeen is a mind-boggling total. Hey, with a couple of more roster moves, they can re-sign Keyshawn Johnson and give him his old No. 19 -- with Clyde Gates' permission, of course.

4. The Braylon folly. I believe the decision to reunite with Edwards was a Rex Ryan-driven move. I don't think Tannenbaum, obviously the target of Edwards' "idiots" tweet, wanted Edwards back in green. Why would he? The man insulted him in a public forum. I think it sends a bad message around the league and to the locker room, where some players can't believe they brought him back.

You can look at it two ways: Tannenbaum put aside his ego and took one for the team. Or, Tannenbaum let his coach exert too much power. We'll see how it plays out. It would be embarrassing if Edwards can't play because of his old hamstring injury.

5. Dilfer on Sanchez: ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer, one of the smartest guys in the business when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks, had this on-air comment about Mark Sanchez: "I think the biggest struggle watching Mark Sanchez this year is he hasn't looked the part, he hasn't taken on the leadership role, he hasn't looked right in the pocket, he hasn't been decisive.

"Before you can ever be a productive quarterback in the NFL and reach your potential, you've got to do the little things and command the football team and command the football field. When I look at Mark Sanchez Monday night, I'm looking for a guy to take total command."

6. Double vision: It flew under the radar last Sunday, but CB Antonio Cromartie did something that rarely happens in the NFL: He started on offense (wide receiver) and defense. Cromartie became the first player since 2008 to start two ways, according to Randy Lange of the Jets' official web site. The last to do it was Broncos MLB Spencer Larsen, who also started at fullback in a game against the Falcons. Lange researched back to 1977 and couldn't find another Jet who accomplished the feat. Ryan said it would be "ridiculous" if Cromartie doesn't make the Pro Bowl.

7. CJ2K on the market?: In a conference call this week with the New York media, RB Chris Johnson talked in circles about whether he sees himself with the Titans for the long term. Obviously, it's a subject he has pondered, because he mentioned how Hall-of-Fame runners such as Eric Dickerson and Marshall Faulk changed teams. "I’ve put in my first five years here ... and had a great experience, but at the end of the day if they don’t want me here, I feel like all situations have a time where they have to come to an end."

The Titans haven't won anything with Johnson, and they have a decision to make: If they don't cut him by the fifth day of the 2013 waiver period (about a week after the Super Bowl), they're on the hook for $9 million of his $10 million base salary in 2013 -- the amount that becomes guaranteed. They also could trade him later on.

8. The amazing AP: When a team's rushing attack stalls, the coach usually throws out the "eight-men-in-the-box" excuse. Not the Vikings. Adrian Peterson is averaging a league-best 6.3 yards per carry when facing 8+ in the box, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

9. Coaching 101: The Redskins have won four straight since Mike Shanahan, taking a page out of the Ryan coaching manual (chapter, 2009), basically proclaimed the season over. It was his best coaching move since pairing John Elway and Terrell Davis.

10. Precocious QB: The Seahawks' Russell Wilson has 20 TD passes, six shy of the rookie record, set by Peyton Manning in 1998. Memo to the Jets: The Seahawks are sitting Matt Flynn even thought they gave him $10 million guaranteed, including a $6 million signing bonus. That takes onions. The Jets could be faced with a similar predicament next season.

DDNYjets · 12-16-2012, 09:30 AM

Every year we made the playoffs we were under 100. In 2009 and 2010 we were especially healthy.

Bring back Sal Alosi.

sec.101row23 · 12-16-2012, 09:44 AM

It would be interesting to see how every team has been affected this year by injuries. It seems injuries, especially soft tissue, have been pretty prevalent this year. I'm not sure the Jets are the only team with such a high amount of injuries.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-16-2012, 10:20 AM

I wonder if the new CBA rules, fewer padded practices and so forth play a role in the increase in injuries.
Either way, Sal Alosi or his protege should be rehired.

TechJet · 12-16-2012, 10:53 AM

Jet fool er! sorry I
mean Jet Fuel putting my threads in the dumpster!

Buzzsaw · 12-16-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

ESPNNewYork.com obtained the Jets' games-lost totals since 2005. Here are the 13-game totals in each year; notice the rise in the injury rate coincides with the team's decline in 2011 and 2012:

2005 -- 173.5 (4-12)

2006 -- 93.25 (10-6)

2007 -- 101.75 (4-12)

2008 -- 112.25 (9-7)

2009 -- 74.50 (10-6)

2010 -- 84.75 (11-5)

2011 -- 136.50 (8-8)

2012 -- 168.0 (6-7)

Pretty strong correlation between the games missed due to injury and the team's W/L record

lageman4ever · 12-16-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

Pretty strong correlation between the games missed due to injury and the team's W/L record

Yea, I think the Jets were really lucky as far as injuries during the AFC championship game years. Now the injury bug has bitten and the team is realizing the lack of depth on the roster is a problem.

Greentide · 12-16-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

Pretty strong correlation between the games missed due to injury and the team's W/L record

Probably relates to team depth or lack there of as well.

BrianNY · 12-16-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Every year we made the playoffs we were under 100. In 2009 and 2010 we were especially healthy.

Bring back Sal Alosi.

Friggin tripping incident

Snell41 · 12-16-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechJet

Jet fool er! sorry I
mean Jet Fuel putting my threads in the dumpster!

Jet Fuel for mod of the year!!!

Beerfish · 12-16-2012, 03:34 PM

The jets were spectacularly lucky in rex's 1st two years and for some bizarre reason tanngenuis thought that it was normal to never have any injuires of note. Thus the old 4 draft picks a year, as anyone with a brain cell could see made sure we had no depth and no young development players ready to step in for injuries. Instead we brialliantly raid other teams lousy cast offs.

12-16-2012, 09:25 AM	#1
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	Cimini: Sunday notes: The Jets' big hurt A look at the Jets and around the NFL: 1. Big pain, no gain: In the offseason, the Jets are planning to conduct a study on the injury bug that has plagued the team. In terms of games-lost due to injury, this could wind up being the highest total in eight years. Some injuries are just bad luck -- Darrelle Revis (knee), Santonio Holmes (foot) -- but they've suffered an inordinate number of soft-tissue injuries. That usually means players are out of shape. "It's a concern," GM Mike Tannenbaum said. "Our strength-and-conditioning staff does a great job, but we need to see what we can do better. Traditionally, this is an area of strength for us. We will take a look at it." ESPNNewYork.com obtained the Jets' games-lost totals since 2005. Here are the 13-game totals in each year; notice the rise in the injury rate coincides with the team's decline in 2011 and 2012: 2005 -- 173.5 2006 -- 93.25 2007 -- 101.75 2008 -- 112.25 2009 -- 74.50 2010 -- 84.75 2011 -- 136.50 2012 -- 168.0 2. The revolving roster: Because of all the injuries, Tannenbaum has been forced to tweak the roster on a weekly basis. So far, they've had 70 players on the 53-man roster. Since opening day, the Jets have made 72 transactions, including 44 directly involving the 53-man roster, according to the team. (The rest are practice-squad moves.) They've already surpassed last season's totals. In 2011, they had 69 transactions, including 25 involving the 53-man roster. 3. Seventeen (not the magazine): Braylon Edwards will wear his familiar No. 17, courtesy of rookie WR Jordan White, who ceded the number to the veteran wide receiver. In this case, 17 has another meaning: Edwards became the 17th wide receiver/tight end this season to have a spot on the 53-man roster. (That includes Antonio Cromartie and Tim Tebow, both of whom have lined up as pass catchers.) Seventeen is a mind-boggling total. Hey, with a couple of more roster moves, they can re-sign Keyshawn Johnson and give him his old No. 19 -- with Clyde Gates' permission, of course. 4. The Braylon folly. I believe the decision to reunite with Edwards was a Rex Ryan-driven move. I don't think Tannenbaum, obviously the target of Edwards' "idiots" tweet, wanted Edwards back in green. Why would he? The man insulted him in a public forum. I think it sends a bad message around the league and to the locker room, where some players can't believe they brought him back. You can look at it two ways: Tannenbaum put aside his ego and took one for the team. Or, Tannenbaum let his coach exert too much power. We'll see how it plays out. It would be embarrassing if Edwards can't play because of his old hamstring injury. 5. Dilfer on Sanchez: ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer, one of the smartest guys in the business when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks, had this on-air comment about Mark Sanchez: "I think the biggest struggle watching Mark Sanchez this year is he hasn't looked the part, he hasn't taken on the leadership role, he hasn't looked right in the pocket, he hasn't been decisive. "Before you can ever be a productive quarterback in the NFL and reach your potential, you've got to do the little things and command the football team and command the football field. When I look at Mark Sanchez Monday night, I'm looking for a guy to take total command." 6. Double vision: It flew under the radar last Sunday, but CB Antonio Cromartie did something that rarely happens in the NFL: He started on offense (wide receiver) and defense. Cromartie became the first player since 2008 to start two ways, according to Randy Lange of the Jets' official web site. The last to do it was Broncos MLB Spencer Larsen, who also started at fullback in a game against the Falcons. Lange researched back to 1977 and couldn't find another Jet who accomplished the feat. Ryan said it would be "ridiculous" if Cromartie doesn't make the Pro Bowl. 7. CJ2K on the market?: In a conference call this week with the New York media, RB Chris Johnson talked in circles about whether he sees himself with the Titans for the long term. Obviously, it's a subject he has pondered, because he mentioned how Hall-of-Fame runners such as Eric Dickerson and Marshall Faulk changed teams. "I’ve put in my first five years here ... and had a great experience, but at the end of the day if they don’t want me here, I feel like all situations have a time where they have to come to an end." The Titans haven't won anything with Johnson, and they have a decision to make: If they don't cut him by the fifth day of the 2013 waiver period (about a week after the Super Bowl), they're on the hook for $9 million of his $10 million base salary in 2013 -- the amount that becomes guaranteed. They also could trade him later on. 8. The amazing AP: When a team's rushing attack stalls, the coach usually throws out the "eight-men-in-the-box" excuse. Not the Vikings. Adrian Peterson is averaging a league-best 6.3 yards per carry when facing 8+ in the box, according to ESPN Stats & Information. 9. Coaching 101: The Redskins have won four straight since Mike Shanahan, taking a page out of the Ryan coaching manual (chapter, 2009), basically proclaimed the season over. It was his best coaching move since pairing John Elway and Terrell Davis. 10. Precocious QB: The Seahawks' Russell Wilson has 20 TD passes, six shy of the rookie record, set by Peyton Manning in 1998. Memo to the Jets: The Seahawks are sitting Matt Flynn even thought they gave him $10 million guaranteed, including a $6 million signing bonus. That takes onions. The Jets could be faced with a similar predicament next season.

12-16-2012, 10:53 AM	#5
TechJet Still waiting for the next Jet SB crown. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fr:NYC to Mid Ga. Posts: 8,548	Jet fool er! sorry I mean Jet Fuel putting my threads in the dumpster! Last edited by TechJet; 12-16-2012 at 10:59 AM.

12-16-2012, 09:30 AM	#2
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	Every year we made the playoffs we were under 100. In 2009 and 2010 we were especially healthy. Bring back Sal Alosi.

12-16-2012, 09:44 AM	#3
sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,847	It would be interesting to see how every team has been affected this year by injuries. It seems injuries, especially soft tissue, have been pretty prevalent this year. I'm not sure the Jets are the only team with such a high amount of injuries.

12-16-2012, 10:20 AM	#4
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,177	I wonder if the new CBA rules, fewer padded practices and so forth play a role in the increase in injuries. Either way, Sal Alosi or his protege should be rehired.

12-16-2012, 03:34 PM	#11
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,083	The jets were spectacularly lucky in rex's 1st two years and for some bizarre reason tanngenuis thought that it was normal to never have any injuires of note. Thus the old 4 draft picks a year, as anyone with a brain cell could see made sure we had no depth and no young development players ready to step in for injuries. Instead we brialliantly raid other teams lousy cast offs.