Is this a sollution to the Sanchez cap problem?

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 11:13 AM

Whoever is running the show here can say something like this: "You have a guaranteed contract but we arent going to play you. Not only that, we are not going to dress you for single game. You can certainly do that, but if you would like to be released then you will have to renegotiate your contract."

If Sanchez is under the belief that he has no future in the NFL then OK, there is nothing we can do. But assuming he believes that he does have a future, he would likely give up the guaranteed money to for his freedom. He wouldnt lose a year and would be able to select the location that he thinks would best jump start his career. Seems like a win/win.

Edit: it doesnt even have to be an all or nothing proposition. A negotiation may lead to his giving up part of the money.

Is this plausible?

GreeneWarMachine · 12-24-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJames

Whoever is running the show here can say something like this: "You have a guaranteed contract but we arent going to play you. Not only that, we are not going to dress you for single game. You can certainly do that, but if you would like to be released then you will have to renegotiate your contract."

If Sanchez is under the belief that he has no future in the NFL then OK, there is nothing we can do. But assuming he believes that he does have a future, he would likely give up the guaranteed money to for his freedom. He wouldnt lose a year and would be able to select the location that he thinks would best jump start his career. Seems like a win/win.

Is this plausible?

Nope

DDNYjets · 12-24-2012, 11:15 AM

Not sure if it is feasible but I agree that if Sanchez is on the team next year that he should be inactive every game so long as we have 2 healthy QBs in front of him.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GreeneWarMachine

Nope

Because?

GreeneWarMachine · 12-24-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJames

Because?

Sanchez may not be any good but he's not an idiot. Why would he give up money if he's not even sure he'll be played or picked up by another team? When has a player ever done that? Not suiting him up isn't any sort of leverage. Dude's not gonna renogotiate.

FF2® · 12-24-2012, 11:25 AM

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Because?

because Sanchez isn't a moron?

Sanchez 3:16 · 12-24-2012, 11:27 AM

Is Tony Soprano our GM? That's how we get our QB to renegotiate... extortion.

Savage69 · 12-24-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJames

Because?

The CBA you can't change guaranteed money just the way it is paid such as a bonus etc..

GetaLife · 12-24-2012, 11:43 AM

Let's be real..

If he stays he is going to be on the roster..

There is no way he is going to sit home collecting that contract..

He will get a shot at training camp with whoever is brought it...

Unless he is cut or traded he will be on the Jets roster opening day next season!!

Dunnie · 12-24-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FF2®

because Sanchez isn't a moron?

Debateable

Tai-Mai-Shu · 12-24-2012, 11:58 AM

Ever heard of the NFLPA? Get your lawyers ready to defend a lawsuit.

sg3 · 12-24-2012, 12:04 PM

I somehow think selling someone freedom for cash might have duress issues as far as being an enforceable contract as well as violating a number of amendments to the US Constitution

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Fixit · 12-24-2012, 12:04 PM

I love these joke threads.

Dunnie · 12-24-2012, 12:13 PM

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I somehow think selling someone freedom for cash might have duress issues as far as being an enforceable contract as well as violating a number of amendments to the US Constitution

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Disagree ... You would simply be giving him a choice ... making it clear he would never play another down as a starting QB for the jets ... Or walking away to find employment elsewhere. Why would the jets feel the need to pay him if he opts to leave? .. The choice is his.

Demosthenes9 · 12-24-2012, 12:17 PM

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I somehow think selling someone freedom for cash might have duress issues as far as being an enforceable contract as well as violating a number of amendments to the US Constitution

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it would be completely enforceable and doesn't violate a single amendment or any other part of the Constitution.

OP, not sure about the aspects of the new CBA that some are referencing. Is it "plausible" ? Possibly. Would it actually work ? Highly doubtful.

Carson Palmer sat out most of a season, refusing to play for the Bengals, and he was eventually traded away for a king's ransom. Granted, it was to the Raiders and he hadn't been benched for sucking badly leading up to his hiatus, but still, the precedent exists.

That said, Sanchez could actually benefit from not playing for a year. It ould give him time to refocus/recharge and to perhaps work with a real QB coach on his fundamentals. All the while, he would be collecting a nice fat check from the Jets.

So no, I don't see him renegotiating even if he could.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 03:08 PM

I am not sure why you all think it is so funny that Sanchez would renegotiate to get out of here. It would cost him money, sure, but it would give him an opportunity to resurrect his career.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16

Is Tony Soprano our GM? That's how we get our QB to renegotiate... extortion.

Veteran players renegotiate all the time when they are told either renegotiate or we will cut you.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

The CBA you can't change guaranteed money just the way it is paid such as a bonus etc..

Well no, thats a signing bonus. The guaranteed money we are talking about is not the prorated signing bonus.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 03:11 PM

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Ever heard of the NFLPA? Get your lawyers ready to defend a lawsuit.

A lawsuit for what? Telling him he wont be active next season? Not sure what the problem is.

MrJames · 12-24-2012, 03:12 PM

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I somehow think selling someone freedom for cash might have duress issues as far as being an enforceable contract as well as violating a number of amendments to the US Constitution

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Wow is that wrong. What grade did you get in contracts and Constitutional law and from which school?

12-24-2012, 11:13 AM	#1
MrJames Practice Squad Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 302	Is this a sollution to the Sanchez cap problem? Whoever is running the show here can say something like this: "You have a guaranteed contract but we arent going to play you. Not only that, we are not going to dress you for single game. You can certainly do that, but if you would like to be released then you will have to renegotiate your contract." If Sanchez is under the belief that he has no future in the NFL then OK, there is nothing we can do. But assuming he believes that he does have a future, he would likely give up the guaranteed money to for his freedom. He wouldnt lose a year and would be able to select the location that he thinks would best jump start his career. Seems like a win/win. Edit: it doesnt even have to be an all or nothing proposition. A negotiation may lead to his giving up part of the money. Is this plausible? Last edited by MrJames; 12-24-2012 at 11:20 AM.

12-24-2012, 11:15 AM	#3
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,210	Not sure if it is feasible but I agree that if Sanchez is on the team next year that he should be inactive every game so long as we have 2 healthy QBs in front of him.

12-24-2012, 11:27 AM	#7
Sanchez 3:16 McElroy 3:16? Rookie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 762	Is Tony Soprano our GM? That's how we get our QB to renegotiate... extortion.

12-24-2012, 11:43 AM	#9
GetaLife Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 753	Let's be real.. If he stays he is going to be on the roster.. There is no way he is going to sit home collecting that contract.. He will get a shot at training camp with whoever is brought it... Unless he is cut or traded he will be on the Jets roster opening day next season!!

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Tai-Mai-Shu Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 123	Ever heard of the NFLPA? Get your lawyers ready to defend a lawsuit.

12-24-2012, 12:04 PM	#12
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	I somehow think selling someone freedom for cash might have duress issues as far as being an enforceable contract as well as violating a number of amendments to the US Constitution Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

12-24-2012, 12:04 PM	#13
Fixit Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 103	I love these joke threads.

12-24-2012, 03:08 PM	#16
MrJames Practice Squad Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 302	I am not sure why you all think it is so funny that Sanchez would renegotiate to get out of here. It would cost him money, sure, but it would give him an opportunity to resurrect his career.