If you're Woody Johnson right now, who is your counsel? Your advisor?

jetstream23 · 12-29-2012, 01:13 AM

I am kinda picturing Woody as a man alone on an island as he contemplates the future direction of the team and organization. For just about every year since he bought the team, I think he has leaned on Tannenbaum to a large degree about coaching decisions, directions the team should take with certain players, etc. but now Tannenbaum is likely one of the guys about to be shown the door (or demoted if you believe that's a realistic option). It was Tanny who was at Woody's side as the organization transitioned from Herm to Mangini to Rex.

So, who does Woody confer with now about the football-related decisions to be made? Who does he lean on as he contemplates hiring a new GM, thinks about whether to retain the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, etc? Who is pointing Woody towards strong possible GM candidates....or is he going it alone?

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 12-29-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

I am kinda picturing Woody as a man alone on an island as he contemplates the future direction of the team and organization. For just about every year since he bought the team, I think he has leaned on Tannenbaum to a large degree about coaching decisions, directions the team should take with certain players, etc. but now Tannenbaum is likely one of the guys about to be shown the door (or demoted if you believe that's a realistic option). It was Tanny who was at Woody's side as the organization transitioned from Herm to Mangini to Rex.

So, who does Woody confer with now about the football-related decisions to be made? Who does he lean on as he contemplates hiring a new GM, thinks about whether to retain the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, etc? Who is pointing Woody towards strong possible GM candidates....or is he going it alone?

John Mara and Steve Tisch. And they are laughing at him behind his back.

chrisjets23 · 12-29-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

I am kinda picturing Woody as a man alone on an island as he contemplates the future direction of the team and organization. For just about every year since he bought the team, I think he has leaned on Tannenbaum to a large degree about coaching decisions, directions the team should take with certain players, etc. but now Tannenbaum is likely one of the guys about to be shown the door (or demoted if you believe that's a realistic option). It was Tanny who was at Woody's side as the organization transitioned from Herm to Mangini to Rex.

So, who does Woody confer with now about the football-related decisions to be made? Who does he lean on as he contemplates hiring a new GM, thinks about whether to retain the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, etc? Who is pointing Woody towards strong possible GM candidates....or is he going it alone?

I don't really think it matters. Woody just wants to make sure his team keeps getting talked about daily in the media. To him, that's the equivalent of winning games. He may hire a new front office and staff, but he'll find a way to keep the Jets being the center of attention. Different soap opera but new actors. I have absolutely zero faith in this owner on learning from past mistakes and doing what's right for the organization and fans. I hope I'm dead wrong though.

JaxSuzy · 12-29-2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisjets23

I don't really think it matters. Woody just wants to make sure his team keeps getting talked about daily in the media. To him, that's the equivalent of winning games. He may hire a new front office and staff, but he'll find a way to keep the Jets being the center of attention. Different soap opera but new actors. I have absolutely zero faith in this owner on learning from past mistakes and doing what's right for the organization and fans. I hope I'm dead wrong though.

I don't know that I agree with this, though. Just because he's rich doesn't mean he isn't competitive. I bet he wants to have a winning team - a team that makes it to the Superbowl at some point before he dies. I've compared football teams to racehorses before - I'm sure Woody wants to win a Superbowl just as badly as horse owners want to win the Kentucky Derby or the Triple Crown. Have you seen those superbowl rings? Yummy. And the bragging rights that go along with it. I know I would.

I'm curious to know who advises Woody, too. If it really was Tanny all this time, then Woody must feel lost right now. He might latch on to Rex Ryan as his guru advisor, and that would suck. Would other owners be of reliable assistance? I don't know. I'm trying to think of what I would do if I was Woody. I'd want to at least hire a consultant to help me identify good coaching and GM candidates. I can't just look in the phone book for one, so I'd start thinking of retired NFL coaches who were winners in the league for a long time. I could hire one as a consultant to help me locate reliable, honest and good coaches.

I know it's not popular, but I would fire Ryan, Sparano, Tanny and Cavanaugh. I know y'all like Rex because he's a friendly, loud, smashmouth braggart, but I think he's toxic and a liar. I'm also tired of Rex getting all the credit for the defense instead of Pettine. If Rex has spent the past 4 years micromanaging the defense instead of learning how to be a head coach, he needs to go.

Maybe it's time to re-hire a former Jets Head Coach who didn't get 4 years to learn the job. Maybe that HC was responsible for the talent on the team that Rex inherited in 2009 and 2010. If I was Woody, I'd certainly be wondering about that.

southparkcpa · 12-29-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

I am kinda picturing Woody as a man alone on an island as he contemplates the future direction of the team and organization. For just about every year since he bought the team, I think he has leaned on Tannenbaum to a large degree about coaching decisions, directions the team should take with certain players, etc. but now Tannenbaum is likely one of the guys about to be shown the door (or demoted if you believe that's a realistic option). It was Tanny who was at Woody's side as the organization transitioned from Herm to Mangini to Rex.

So, who does Woody confer with now about the football-related decisions to be made? Who does he lean on as he contemplates hiring a new GM, thinks about whether to retain the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, etc? Who is pointing Woody towards strong possible GM candidates....or is he going it alone?

Woody reads JI for all the great advice.

sg3 · 12-29-2012, 07:51 AM

Maybe Itsaprocess will become the new HC of your Jaguars and you can get to watch both he and Teblow make them even worse in 2013

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124 · 12-29-2012, 07:57 AM

PSL holders.

eaglenj · 12-29-2012, 07:58 AM

This thread exemplifies exactly why the Jets have so little direction, the answer is NO ONE.

Woody doesnt have the rolodex that lonttime owners have, nor does he have a "father figure' in the league to offer guidance. In fact, he has never actually run a business on his own (his grandfather did not allow him to be part of J&J leadership), so he has very little experience with anything that can be used in this situation.

I believe Neil Glat will have quite a say in this situation, but he is a business man first (Harvard Law) who was hired away from the NFL office to help with the sale of luxury boxes/stadium issues.

I do know the Jets are working with an Executive Search firm but who knows how well schooled the Firm is in finding NFL GMs

JetsFanatic · 12-29-2012, 08:11 AM

Key person - Neil Glat, Jets President

He was an executive of the NFL office before Woody hired him as President of the Jets.

I guarantee he is playing a key role in the decision making process.

To me it's simple. Based strictly on won/loss record over the past 4 seasons you can make an strong argument that the Tanny/Rex combo deserve one more season providing they bring on a strong OC (along the lines of Norv Turner).

However, Woody is taking a tremendous beating in the media where the Jets are now virtually a laughing stock. I would not be surprised if Woody makes a decision to clean house. Neil Glat, IMO, is playing a major role in the course of action Woody decides to take.

kennyo7 · 12-29-2012, 08:17 AM

Actually Woody has been consulting with me. We are on the phone daily. I told him what needs to be done-clean house. Lets see if he has the integrity to do it

Kentucky Jet · 12-29-2012, 08:20 AM

Woody will contact sg3 for all his keen insight and knowledge about how to make the Jets better. First he will pay for sg3 and Tebow to a vacation together!

bigalbarracuda · 12-29-2012, 09:08 AM

If he had a Sicilian... a war-time consigliere he wouldn't be in the situation!

Apache 51 · 12-29-2012, 10:02 AM

Most likely the mailroom kid at J&J's R&D plant over in Morris Plains.

Nike · 12-29-2012, 10:05 AM

124 · 12-29-2012, 10:13 AM

RayRay, for sure.

Pay Fireman Ed to return, sign Sanchez up for another five-years and give Wrecks a five-year extension, too.

12-4, baby.

pcola · 12-29-2012, 10:54 AM

I'm not sure he needs any counsel. He's owned this team for 12 years. He's seen enough to know a good organization and compare that to what he has. It's not difficult to contact key people from these good organizations and. Ring them in for a discussion.

When they were interviewing for HCs in 2009, they actively listened to the candidates articulate how they would approach the team, what philosophies, even talked personnel.

Why would this be any different?

Don Banks had a piece in SI about what KC, Jax, and Cle were doing and it was so easy. They are interviewing Gamble, Ross, and a front office exec from Atlanta (his name escapes me at the moment).

It's not brain surgery. I bet we can go back a month and find dozens of threads where these same names were mentioned as potential great hires.

Now we get to look at three teams that are presently terrible and are making the moves to give them the best chance of improving, long term. How come we cannot do the same?

jetstream23 · 12-30-2012, 01:35 PM

So the answer is an executive search firm???

Hope they find a smart football guy with financial acumen....and not the future CEO of a band-aid empire!

Jungle Shift Jet · 12-30-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache 51

Most likely the mailroom kid at J&J's R&D plant over in Morris Plains.

Woody has more to do with the Devils than J&J.

How're the Devils doing this year?

Apache 51 · 12-30-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet

Woody has more to do with the Devils than J&J.

How're the Devils doing this year?

Just fine, another cup in a few years would be fun, but I'm not greedy.

boxman · 12-30-2012, 04:29 PM

Mitt Romney

12-29-2012, 01:13 AM	#1
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,610	If you're Woody Johnson right now, who is your counsel? Your advisor? I am kinda picturing Woody as a man alone on an island as he contemplates the future direction of the team and organization. For just about every year since he bought the team, I think he has leaned on Tannenbaum to a large degree about coaching decisions, directions the team should take with certain players, etc. but now Tannenbaum is likely one of the guys about to be shown the door (or demoted if you believe that's a realistic option). It was Tanny who was at Woody's side as the organization transitioned from Herm to Mangini to Rex. So, who does Woody confer with now about the football-related decisions to be made? Who does he lean on as he contemplates hiring a new GM, thinks about whether to retain the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, etc? Who is pointing Woody towards strong possible GM candidates....or is he going it alone?

12-29-2012, 07:51 AM	#6
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,401	Maybe Itsaprocess will become the new HC of your Jaguars and you can get to watch both he and Teblow make them even worse in 2013 Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

12-29-2012, 07:57 AM	#7
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,970	PSL holders.

12-29-2012, 07:58 AM	#8
eaglenj All League Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,839	This thread exemplifies exactly why the Jets have so little direction, the answer is NO ONE. Woody doesnt have the rolodex that lonttime owners have, nor does he have a "father figure' in the league to offer guidance. In fact, he has never actually run a business on his own (his grandfather did not allow him to be part of J&J leadership), so he has very little experience with anything that can be used in this situation. I believe Neil Glat will have quite a say in this situation, but he is a business man first (Harvard Law) who was hired away from the NFL office to help with the sale of luxury boxes/stadium issues. I do know the Jets are working with an Executive Search firm but who knows how well schooled the Firm is in finding NFL GMs

12-29-2012, 08:11 AM	#9
JetsFanatic When you listen to the fans, you sit with the fans! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,938	Key person - Neil Glat, Jets President He was an executive of the NFL office before Woody hired him as President of the Jets. I guarantee he is playing a key role in the decision making process. To me it's simple. Based strictly on won/loss record over the past 4 seasons you can make an strong argument that the Tanny/Rex combo deserve one more season providing they bring on a strong OC (along the lines of Norv Turner). However, Woody is taking a tremendous beating in the media where the Jets are now virtually a laughing stock. I would not be surprised if Woody makes a decision to clean house. Neil Glat, IMO, is playing a major role in the course of action Woody decides to take.

12-29-2012, 08:17 AM	#10
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,404	Actually Woody has been consulting with me. We are on the phone daily. I told him what needs to be done-clean house. Lets see if he has the integrity to do it

12-29-2012, 08:20 AM	#11
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,882	Woody will contact sg3 for all his keen insight and knowledge about how to make the Jets better. First he will pay for sg3 and Tebow to a vacation together!

12-29-2012, 09:08 AM	#12
bigalbarracuda Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 898	If he had a Sicilian... a war-time consigliere he wouldn't be in the situation!

12-29-2012, 10:02 AM	#13
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,648	Most likely the mailroom kid at J&J's R&D plant over in Morris Plains.

12-29-2012, 10:05 AM	#14
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386

12-29-2012, 10:13 AM	#15
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,970	RayRay, for sure. Pay Fireman Ed to return, sign Sanchez up for another five-years and give Wrecks a five-year extension, too. 12-4, baby.

12-29-2012, 10:54 AM	#16
pcola All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 2,840	I'm not sure he needs any counsel. He's owned this team for 12 years. He's seen enough to know a good organization and compare that to what he has. It's not difficult to contact key people from these good organizations and. Ring them in for a discussion. When they were interviewing for HCs in 2009, they actively listened to the candidates articulate how they would approach the team, what philosophies, even talked personnel. Why would this be any different? Don Banks had a piece in SI about what KC, Jax, and Cle were doing and it was so easy. They are interviewing Gamble, Ross, and a front office exec from Atlanta (his name escapes me at the moment). It's not brain surgery. I bet we can go back a month and find dozens of threads where these same names were mentioned as potential great hires. Now we get to look at three teams that are presently terrible and are making the moves to give them the best chance of improving, long term. How come we cannot do the same?

12-30-2012, 01:35 PM	#17
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,610	So the answer is an executive search firm??? Hope they find a smart football guy with financial acumen....and not the future CEO of a band-aid empire!

12-30-2012, 04:29 PM	#20
boxman GENO! Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 856	Mitt Romney