NYJ assistant GM Scott Cohen gaining support

[petejet]

Originally Posted by McGinley

This. If Cohen is given the job, it pretty much says that the inmate (Rex) is running the asylum.

No, it says Woody is incompetent. If Rex is running the asylum it's because Woody is letting him.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by petejet

No, it says Woody is incompetent. If Rex is running the asylum it's because Woody is letting him.

Did you feel the same way when Hess let the Tuna run the Team?? And he actually had the GM title as well as HC.

[fidelioion]

Originally Posted by Savage69

Did you feel the same way when Hess let the Tuna run the Team?? And he actually had the GM title as well as HC.

Parcells was a two time SuperBowl Champion and just coming off a trip to a superbowl with another team.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by SlickBri481

The only reason to promote from within is if the previously successful GM retires. Otherwise, it's just stupid. Tannenbaum is not going to have an assistant on his staff that has a radically different view of running an organization. He is going to have guys that think like him and back his moves.

Or you have a carefully considered succession plan in place which a well run McDonalds has let alone a Billion Dollar enterprise. In management it is called a SWOT analysis an it is ongoing and comprehensive.

The fact that the Jets conduct most of their business by the set of their pants whether it is Tebow, or Edwards. This organization reveals time and again that they have no strategic plan in place and fundamentally I see no thought in what type of team and organization they want to be that should dictate what type of GM they hire.

This is their primary problem IMO.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by fidelioion

Parcells was a two time SuperBowl Champion and just coming off a trip to a superbowl with another team.

That doesn't make him a good GM and in fact he wasn't..

[petejet]

Originally Posted by Savage69

Did you feel the same way when Hess let the Tuna run the Team?? And he actually had the GM title as well as HC.

Are you comparing Rex to Parcells? Parcells brought a much more impressive resume to the Jets than Rex did. So I most certainly did not mind. Truth be told I am not against Rex having another year. However I against promoting a new GM from within. Cohen is one of the guys that provided Tanny with the info on which to base his decisions. IMO they all need to go.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by freestater

No, I don't.

Who are they and what are their names?

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=252490

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by petejet

Are you comparing Rex to Parcells? Parcells brought a much more impressive resume to the Jets than Rex did. So I most certainly did not mind. Truth be told I am not against Rex having another year. However I against promoting a new GM from within. Cohen is one of the guys that provided Tanny with the info on which to base his decisions. IMO they all need to go.

Granted the Tuna has the best record as a HC but he sucked as a GM.. To my knowledge Cohen isn't the GM and won't complain till he's selected..

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by petejet

Are you comparing Rex to Parcells? Parcells brought a much more impressive resume to the Jets than Rex did. So I most certainly did not mind. Truth be told I am not against Rex having another year. However I against promoting a new GM from within. Cohen is one of the guys that provided Tanny with the info on which to base his decisions. IMO they all need to go.

But who is to say Tanny and/or Rex listened to it...None of us know, unfortunately

[dustykeller]

Didn't Marc Ross interview yesterday?

Why aren't we hearing anything about him.....

[petejet]

Originally Posted by C Mart

But who is to say Tanny and/or Rex listened to it...None of us know, unfortunately

Do you think Tannenbaum ignored his staff? Why keep them around then? In fact why would they stay around if their advice was ignored?

[Monsterxman]

I think we hire Cohen, trade up to draft Barkley, extend Edwards and make sure we still have Holmes.

Then we re-sign Bart Scott, and Eric Smith for cheap. Keep the solid core of RB’s… and we’re pretty set at TE and OLB too.

[petejet]

Originally Posted by Monsterxman

I think we hire Cohen, trade up to draft Barkley, extend Edwards and make sure we still have Holmes.

Then we re-sign Bart Scott, and Eric Smith for cheap. Keep the solid core of RB’s… and we’re pretty set at TE and OLB too.

I think Bart should join his buddy Ray Lewis on the golf course.

[pcola]

Originally Posted by dustykeller

Didn't Marc Ross interview yesterday?

Why aren't we hearing anything about him.....

He's from the Giants. No way anyone who had a front row seat to the circus that is Rex Ryan is going to keep him. I doubt this interview even took 15 minutes.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by petejet

Do you think Tannenbaum ignored his staff? Why keep them around then? In fact why would they stay around if their advice was ignored?

Reports coming out that yes, he did, or actually he sided with what/who Rex wanted and it ticked off the scouts/personnel guys...That was one of the reasons Clinkscales left...Whether this is true I don't know. I heard Francesa talking about it..Again, is it true? I don't know...But that is what Francesa was hearing/saying..and yes, I know what everyone thinks about Francesa..

[dustykeller]

Originally Posted by pcola

He's from the Giants. No way anyone who had a front row seat to the circus that is Rex Ryan is going to keep him. I doubt this interview even took 15 minutes.

why would Ross waste his time in the first place?

That doesn't make any sense

[pcola]

Originally Posted by Monsterxman

I think we hire Cohen, trade up to draft Barkley, extend Edwards and make sure we still have Holmes.

Then we re-sign Bart Scott, and Eric Smith for cheap. Keep the solid core of RB’s… and we’re pretty set at TE and OLB too.

How are we set at TE? Both Keller and Cumberland are Free agents. So is Gree e BTW.



And at OLB, Scott and Pace are getting cut because we are $19 M over the cap and Thomas is a FA. We have Davis to replace Scott. Do you think we can play with McIntyre and Sapp starting?

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by JamaicanJetFan

I'm as pro-Caldwell and pro-Gamble as anyone else on this board. I'd love to bring in an outside hire and a fresh perspective.

But why does everyone assume Scott Cohen is a terrible choice? He's not physically attached at the hip to Mike Tannenbaum. He is his own man. He has a long track record of scouting and personnel at various teams around the NFL. We shouldn't simply hire someone because they're from outside the organization. If Cohen is the best man for the job, then he should be hired. Unless someone has specifics of Cohen induced screwups...don't pin Tannenbaum's mismanagement on Cohen. For example, Terry Bradway really wanted the Jets to draft Russell Wilson...Tannenbaum did not pull the trigger on that. Ultimately, Tannenbaum has been at fault in recent years.

My biggest concern with Cohen is that he will simply be a puppet to Rex Ryan's desires and that we will have to wait until Ryan is gone (if that actually happens while Woody Johnson is owner) before we see any significant personnel improvements, especially on offense.

I don't trust or believe anything Rex Ryan says anymore.

[pcola]

Originally Posted by dustykeller

why would Ross waste his time in the first place?

That doesn't make any sense

What doesn't make sense about it? Can you honestly admit that you think anyone from the Giants would come here and have his future being tied to Rex Ryan? Please don't be that naive.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by pcola

What doesn't make sense about it? Can you honestly admit that you think anyone from the Giants would come here and have his future being tied to Rex Ryan? Please don't be that naive.

I believe his point was why did Ross even bother showing up if that's the way he felt??