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Eckesg1 · 01-11-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

I have completely lost track of your argument.

What exactly proves that Cohen won't be the GM? That it is someone's opinion that he was a courtesy interview and backup plan in case things fell through. And since someone said they want to be the GM that proves things haven't fell through. Therefore Cohen won't be the GM.

My point is that things don't need to fall through for him to become the GM. I think he has Rex supporting him. And that could lead to him becoming the GM.

Exactly. It's a stream of logic.

Seth · 01-11-2013, 05:17 PM

As much as Woody may seem incompetent, he is well aware of the public opinion surrounding the team. If he was not, Mike T would still be the GM today. I truly believe Cohen will not get the job, simply because Woody knows the backlash from the fans would be insanely dreadful.

Eckesg1 · 01-11-2013, 05:17 PM

Rick Moffat ‏@RickMoffat
#Jets have not made on offer to #Popp.

My theory still stands. They are going to interview all the NFL candidates and if none of them suit Woody or Rex then they will give Popp an offer.

Seth · 01-11-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Rick Moffat ‏@RickMoffat
#Jets have not made on offer to #Popp.

My theory still stands. They are going to interview all the NFL candidates and if none of them suit Woody or Rex then they will give Popp an offer.

Offer and interview are completely different.

Eckesg1 · 01-11-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Offer and interview are completely different.

Apparently they've already interviewed him.

Seth · 01-11-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Apparently they've already interviewed him.

That is my point, stating they did not make him an offer is pointing out the obvious. If they made him an offer we would not have expanded the search.

DDNYjets · 01-11-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Exactly. It's a stream of logic.

No. That is opinions. Cohen is an underdog and he isn't being given much consideration by the "insiders". As for Popp, do you think anybody with aspirations of becoming an NFL GM would ever come out publicly and say anything negative about a team? None of that stuff means anything.

Rex is coaching for his job. In his first 4 years he showed a resistance to change. Now, with all the changing faces I think Rex would like to keep some familiar ones. Rex loved the amount of power he had over personnel with Tanny as GM. I don't think Rex wants to relinquish that. Therefore I think Rex is backing Cohen and that is why we heard reports that Cohen was gaining support. That is my stream of logic.

TheBlairThomasFumble · 01-11-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

58-54 is failing miserably?

Oh that's right, we're back to the 2 AFCG's game argument again. Psst. That was 3 years ago.

Who was a hotter available coach than Pete Carroll in 2010?

No argument about Carroll being a hot candidate when he returned, but did have two teams - Jets in 94 and Pats in 99 - collapse down the stretch on him in spectacular fashion. Surely that gave some NFL folks pause as they considered him for a return to the pros.

Eckesg1 · 01-11-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

No. That is opinions. Cohen is an underdog and he isn't being given much consideration by the "insiders". As for Popp, do you think anybody with aspirations of becoming an NFL GM would ever come out publicly and say anything negative about a team? None of that stuff means anything.

Rex is coaching for his job. In his first 4 years he showed a resistance to change. Now, with all the changing faces I think Rex would like to keep some familiar ones. Rex loved the amount of power he had over personnel with Tanny as GM. I don't think Rex wants to relinquish that. Therefore I think Rex is backing Cohen and that is why we heard reports that Cohen was gaining support. That is my stream of logic.

Which goes back to the original question of why they didn't hire him yet? Why would they expand the search just for the purpose of picking brains?

As for Popp, I would tend to think that if he didn't want the job, he would say nothing about it.

Seth · 01-11-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Which goes back to the original question of why they didn't hire him yet? Why would they expand the search just for the purpose of picking brains?

As for Popp, I would tend to think that if he didn't want the job, he would say nothing about it.

Exactly the longer this drags out, the less likely Cohen is named the GM. At this point I feel there is a minimal chance he gets the job.

McGinley · 01-11-2013, 05:41 PM

Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly
New GM Tom Telesco turns the #Chargers' focus to the draft, with quotes from #Colts GM Ryan Grigson, by @kfishbain - http://bit.ly/TPMWLB

McGinley · 01-11-2013, 05:41 PM

Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly
New GM Tom Telesco turns the #Chargers' focus to the draft, with quotes from #Colts GM Ryan Grigson, by @kfishbain - http://bit.ly/TPMWLB

Jordy · 01-11-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlairThomasFumble

No argument about Carroll being a hot candidate when he returned, but did have two teams - Jets in 94 and Pats in 99 - collapse down the stretch on him in spectacular fashion. Surely that gave some NFL folks pause as they considered him for a return to the pros.

How many teams in need of a HC do you think would have been lining up for Nick Saban had he made himself available?

His NFL tenure was far from impressive.

DDNYjets · 01-11-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Which goes back to the original question of why they didn't hire him yet? Why would they expand the search just for the purpose of picking brains?

As for Popp, I would tend to think that if he didn't want the job, he would say nothing about it.

There can be plenty of reasons. One is that he is already an employee and there is no risk of losing him. Another is like what I mentioned before, that they are doing a very thorough search and familiarizing themselves with all of the candidates. Picking brains is only a small part of it. I think they had high hopes for a few of the early candidates and since those didn't work out now they are going to leave no stone unturned.

It is just my opinion that Cohen is very much still alive and I think he has one of the best allies he can have in this process in Rex.

As for Popp, was he asked a question or did he release a statement. If he was asked a question then I believe he gave the only answer he could give.

TheBlairThomasFumble · 01-11-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Exactly the longer this drags out, the less likely Cohen is named the GM. At this point I feel there is a minimal chance he gets the job.

At the PC, Woody specifically said "Mike was a very hard worker here and very diligent, but I felt we had to go in a different direction to improve this team and get us to where we want to be."

Hiring Cohen would be utterly at odds with "a different direction," unless Cohen can make the case that he was against Tanny's philosophy and moves.

McGinley · 01-11-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlairThomasFumble

At the PC, Woody specifically said "Mike was a very hard worker here and very diligent, but I felt we had to go in a different direction to improve this team and get us to where we want to be."

Hiring Cohen would be utterly at odds with "a different direction," unless Cohen can make the case that he was against Tanny's philosophy and moves.

That could also be interpreted as owner speak. Could also be that he was simply saying, "we felt we needed to put a fresh pair of eyes in the position". Maybe he meant philosophy, maybe he meant giving someone else a shot. Don't know, DOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE.

Seth · 01-11-2013, 05:56 PM

If it was going to be Cohen it would have occurred a few days ago that is my personal opinion on it. Woody is not as stupid as many individuals make him out to be. He knows damn well that hiring Cohen is an impossible sell to the fan base.

McGinley · 01-11-2013, 06:00 PM

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Jets have lost seven coaches (OC, DC, ST, QB, LB, OLB, Asst DB) through firings, defections or retirement in the past 11 days. #nyj

Seth · 01-11-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Jets have lost seven coaches (OC, DC, ST, QB, LB, OLB, Asst DB) through firings, defections or retirement in the past 11 days. #nyj

McGinley · 01-11-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Misleading; a cat would never willing go into the water.

01-11-2013, 05:17 PM	#282
Seth One does not simply learn to butt fumble instantaneously. Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 261	As much as Woody may seem incompetent, he is well aware of the public opinion surrounding the team. If he was not, Mike T would still be the GM today. I truly believe Cohen will not get the job, simply because Woody knows the backlash from the fans would be insanely dreadful.

01-11-2013, 05:17 PM	#283
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	Rick Moffat ‏@RickMoffat #Jets have not made on offer to #Popp. My theory still stands. They are going to interview all the NFL candidates and if none of them suit Woody or Rex then they will give Popp an offer.

01-11-2013, 05:41 PM	#291
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,455	Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly New GM Tom Telesco turns the #Chargers' focus to the draft, with quotes from #Colts GM Ryan Grigson, by @kfishbain - http://bit.ly/TPMWLB

01-11-2013, 05:41 PM	#292
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,455	Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly New GM Tom Telesco turns the #Chargers' focus to the draft, with quotes from #Colts GM Ryan Grigson, by @kfishbain - http://bit.ly/TPMWLB

01-11-2013, 05:56 PM	#297
Seth One does not simply learn to butt fumble instantaneously. Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 261	If it was going to be Cohen it would have occurred a few days ago that is my personal opinion on it. Woody is not as stupid as many individuals make him out to be. He knows damn well that hiring Cohen is an impossible sell to the fan base.

01-11-2013, 06:00 PM	#298
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,455	Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN Jets have lost seven coaches (OC, DC, ST, QB, LB, OLB, Asst DB) through firings, defections or retirement in the past 11 days. #nyj