Are Jets trying to hire 2 people?

phillyjet · 01-18-2013, 09:54 AM

Wondering whether the delay is not simply to get Idzik into place but also to hire a VP of player of personnel, sort of like the job Lombardi got this morning from the Browns. Perhaps Idzik + Gaine, Idzik + Popp, Idzik + Cohen, Idzik + Bradway etc. Or someone Idzik has identified to join him.

Would make a lot of sense in some ways. The only comments that Woody has made from the press conference was that Korn/Ferry was helping with the restructuring of their front office. That started with Glat. Would be excited if they could pull of a "2 for 1". Would definitely excite a fanbase that is already worried about the thin resume that Idzik has on the personnel side.

Kentucky Jet · 01-18-2013, 10:04 AM

This makes perfect sense if they let Bradway go.

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jetman in indy · 01-18-2013, 10:08 AM

I don't think there is a question of "if" they let Bradway go! More like how soon.....

adpz · 01-18-2013, 10:10 AM

One theory could be that Idzik is a placeholder GM - someone who would/could slide into the 'cap-guy' role if/when things go to pot under Ryan this season.

At that point, there would be a house-cleaning, Idzik remains and a 'real' GM is brought in.

I would find that very weird, especially going through this whole complex process, but if the owner is trying to take a long-term view to building the organization this could certainly be one of the scenarios he is contemplating.

Astoria · 01-18-2013, 10:12 AM

You guys realize bradway isn't a problem right? Guy wanted to draft Russell Wilson, kaepernick before that. Someone has been overruling him.

I don't think he should be head scout like he is now, but he isn't awful.

JETFAN1 · 01-18-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Astoria

You guys realize bradway isn't a problem right? Guy wanted to draft Russell Wilson, kaepernick before that. Someone has been overruling him.

I don't think he should be head scout like he is now, but he isn't awful.

This is why I believe Mike was fired. He went from listening completely to his scouts to making his own decisions. Giving Sanchez an extension was where the wall fell over him..

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jetman in indy · 01-18-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Astoria

You guys realize bradway isn't a problem right? Guy wanted to draft Russell Wilson, kaepernick before that. Someone has been overruling him.

I don't think he should be head scout like he is now, but he isn't awful.

Bradway couldn't fix hobo soup if he owned a restaurant......

Ven0m · 01-18-2013, 10:20 AM

I wouldn't count on it.....

At least not in the way you are expecting.

Any GM is going to look to fill out a staff with a couple of his guys, thats only natural. But it's more likely to be a scout from another organization that you've never heard of before and not a high level guy making essentially a lateral move.

What does Gaine have to gain by coming here in a lateral move? Cohen and Bradway will probably still be involved here in some fashion.

JoePNYJ1 · 01-18-2013, 10:21 AM

I think that it is a strong possibility that it would be two people. They went to visit Gaine down in Miami. Also Gamble has not interviewed with anyone else after the Jets which strikes me as odd considering that he was a hot candidate.

I can see an Idzik/Gamble or Idzik/Gaine combo possibly?

CraigFL · 01-18-2013, 10:29 AM

I'm not sure that a GM would want to come into that position with another guy who interviewed for the same job. It doesn't seem like a very secure position in the already insecure world of the Jets. It would be a blockbuster sort of move if pulled off, but I think a GM would want to pick his own staff.

LockeJET · 01-18-2013, 10:33 AM

No way! Clev has no GM that's why they went with Lombardi.

KRL · 01-18-2013, 10:36 AM

It could be a "two person" hire but it would be something like Idzik and
someone from SEA front office as his Asst. GM / Director of Scouting

KRL · 01-18-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

It could be a "two person" hire but it would be something like Idzik and
someone from SEA front office as his Asst. GM / Director of Scouting

In fact what I would love is if Idzik hired Mike Mayock as his Asst. GM /
Director of Scouting

mrcoops · 01-18-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

It could be a "two person" hire but it would be something like Idzik and
someone from SEA front office as his Asst. GM / Director of Scouting

Exactly. No way do we land two of our GM candidates - the men themselves wouldn't accept it, plus their current teams can block lateral moves which is what assistant GM would be for just about all of them.

It will be Idzik plus maybe a Seattle scout, or Khan plus maybe a Pitt scout. But no dream teams of top GM candidates.

jetstream23 · 01-18-2013, 10:43 AM

Bradway was a bad GM. He's an excellent scouting/personnel guy IMO. I was very happy when his demotion from GM didn't make him bolt from the organization.

In a way, he's like Rex. At the elevated position of head coach Rex is still trying to find his way a little and become successful, but most agree that he's probably best suited as a Defensive Coordinator.

I like Bradway and hope he sticks through this.

jetman in indy · 01-18-2013, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

In fact what I would love is if Idzik hired Mike Mayock as his Asst. GM /
Director of Scouting

I'm all onboard with Mayock in our scouting dept....

CraigFL · 01-18-2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetman in indy

I'm all onboard with Mayock in our scouting dept....

+1 I used to think he was just uber critical, but now it seems he's usually spot on.

RMJK · 01-18-2013, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astoria

You guys realize bradway isn't a problem right? Guy wanted to draft Russell Wilson, kaepernick before that. Someone has been overruling him.

I don't think he should be head scout like he is now, but he isn't awful.

Tanny, Rex and cast. I agree keep Bradway.

IndianaJet · 01-18-2013, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetman in indy

I'm all onboard with Mayock in our scouting dept....

Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31
BREAKING NEWS: I'm hearing a buzz that the Jets have a 2 for 1 deal working. Idzik as GM @NFLnetwork's Mike Mayock as VP of Player Personnel

JETFAN1 · 01-18-2013, 11:01 AM

^
LOL. He must have just read these posts...

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01-18-2013, 09:54 AM	#1
phillyjet Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 692	Are Jets trying to hire 2 people? Wondering whether the delay is not simply to get Idzik into place but also to hire a VP of player of personnel, sort of like the job Lombardi got this morning from the Browns. Perhaps Idzik + Gaine, Idzik + Popp, Idzik + Cohen, Idzik + Bradway etc. Or someone Idzik has identified to join him. Would make a lot of sense in some ways. The only comments that Woody has made from the press conference was that Korn/Ferry was helping with the restructuring of their front office. That started with Glat. Would be excited if they could pull of a "2 for 1". Would definitely excite a fanbase that is already worried about the thin resume that Idzik has on the personnel side.

01-18-2013, 10:04 AM	#2
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,876	This makes perfect sense if they let Bradway go. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Go Jets!

01-18-2013, 10:08 AM	#3
jetman in indy I bleed green Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 846	I don't think there is a question of "if" they let Bradway go! More like how soon.....

01-18-2013, 10:10 AM	#4
adpz Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,002	One theory could be that Idzik is a placeholder GM - someone who would/could slide into the 'cap-guy' role if/when things go to pot under Ryan this season. At that point, there would be a house-cleaning, Idzik remains and a 'real' GM is brought in. I would find that very weird, especially going through this whole complex process, but if the owner is trying to take a long-term view to building the organization this could certainly be one of the scenarios he is contemplating.

01-18-2013, 10:12 AM	#5
Astoria Bababa basketball, gimme gimme gimme the ball because I'm gonna dunk it Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,747	You guys realize bradway isn't a problem right? Guy wanted to draft Russell Wilson, kaepernick before that. Someone has been overruling him. I don't think he should be head scout like he is now, but he isn't awful.

01-18-2013, 10:20 AM	#8
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	I wouldn't count on it..... At least not in the way you are expecting. Any GM is going to look to fill out a staff with a couple of his guys, thats only natural. But it's more likely to be a scout from another organization that you've never heard of before and not a high level guy making essentially a lateral move. What does Gaine have to gain by coming here in a lateral move? Cohen and Bradway will probably still be involved here in some fashion.

01-18-2013, 10:21 AM	#9
JoePNYJ1 Sheldon is a beast! Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 432	I think that it is a strong possibility that it would be two people. They went to visit Gaine down in Miami. Also Gamble has not interviewed with anyone else after the Jets which strikes me as odd considering that he was a hot candidate. I can see an Idzik/Gamble or Idzik/Gaine combo possibly?

01-18-2013, 10:29 AM	#10
CraigFL still a rookie after 4 years. should be SanchezFL Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 987	I'm not sure that a GM would want to come into that position with another guy who interviewed for the same job. It doesn't seem like a very secure position in the already insecure world of the Jets. It would be a blockbuster sort of move if pulled off, but I think a GM would want to pick his own staff.

01-18-2013, 10:33 AM	#11
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,957	No way! Clev has no GM that's why they went with Lombardi.

01-18-2013, 10:36 AM	#12
KRL Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,720	It could be a "two person" hire but it would be something like Idzik and someone from SEA front office as his Asst. GM / Director of Scouting

01-18-2013, 10:43 AM	#15
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,590	Bradway was a bad GM. He's an excellent scouting/personnel guy IMO. I was very happy when his demotion from GM didn't make him bolt from the organization. In a way, he's like Rex. At the elevated position of head coach Rex is still trying to find his way a little and become successful, but most agree that he's probably best suited as a Defensive Coordinator. I like Bradway and hope he sticks through this.

01-18-2013, 11:01 AM	#20
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	^ LOL. He must have just read these posts... Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2