SI's King Says Elway Believes Revis is Missing Piece... - Page 2

Sourceworx · 01-28-2013, 12:24 PM

The Jets should trade for a first round pick in this year's draft. If they go for a 2014 first rounder, I guarantee the team they trade with wins the Super Bowl next season.

Joe W. Namath · 01-28-2013, 12:26 PM

Denver is in over react mode. They lost because manning couldnt throw the ball more the 10 yards the entire 2nd half of the game. His arm was shot. But elway cant see this because then he has to blame himself. So cornerback will be the scapegoat.

Did manning have a great year, yes. Did they lose because of manning, no. Did they lose because manning was incapable of winning the game in the end - yes.

This is like when we over reacted and drafted mike nugent because we thought our only issue was doug brien.

Strike while the wounds are fresh and hose elway in a deal.

nycuse · 01-28-2013, 12:27 PM

for Mays OLB straight up.

KRL · 01-28-2013, 12:28 PM

Elway knows his window is closing rapidly because Manning won't be around
for long. If Idzik plays it right he can make him overpay in picks. Elway
and everyone in DEN has to cringe watching the tape of Bailey getting
burned repeatedly in the playoffs

DDNYjets · 01-28-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sourceworx

The Jets should trade for a first round pick in this year's draft. If they go for a 2014 first rounder, I guarantee the team they trade with wins the Super Bowl next season.

The reason why people want first rounders next year is b.c there could be three great players at the top of the draft (Bridgewater, Clowney and Manziel). With 2 first rounders we would be able to move up and snag one. Heck, we might be in position for one without moving up.

PatsFanTX · 01-28-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefst2000

The starting point in a Revis trade is a minimum of a 1st round pick. The question is ist rounder and what else? I can see a 2nd and 3rd in 2013 plus a 1st in 2014. Something in that range. When a team calls offering 2 second rounders you simply say that doesn't get it done for Revis but Cro may be available at that price.

So you think the Jets will get a 1st this year, a 2nd and 3rd next year and a 1st in 2014?

You can't be serious.

revischrist · 01-28-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

So you think the Jets will get a 1st this year, a 2nd and 3rd next year and a 1st in 2014?

You can't be serious.

Reading comprehension was not your strong point in school.

Sourceworx · 01-28-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

The reason why people want first rounders next year is b.c there could be three great players at the top of the draft (Bridgewater, Clowney and Manziel). With 2 first rounders we would be able to move up and snag one. Heck, we might be in position for one without moving up.

Not likely to happen if one of those picks is 32 overall. And that's exactly what the Jets would be getting. It is a given with this team's luck.

mrcoops · 01-28-2013, 12:39 PM

They have to take Tebow back as part of the deal....

Revis and Tebow for Ossweiler (sp?) plus a #1 and a #2.

chiefst2000 · 01-28-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

So you think the Jets will get a 1st this year, a 2nd and 3rd next year and a 1st in 2014?

You can't be serious.

No I said a 1st in 2014 and a 2nd +3rd this year. I see that as feasible.

Warfish · 01-28-2013, 12:41 PM

1st and 3rd in 2013 (this years draft) + 3rd, 5th & 7th in 2014.

A talent-deficiant team can best get better by trading one guy for 4+ potential guys. We get 9 (I think) picks in 2013 and 10 picks in 2014. Patriots-Style Rebuild/Restock of Talent.

If Denver really believed Revis was the "missing piece" they'll make this deal in a milisecond, and Revis can go play alongside (or replace) Champ Baily, the Revis is the last generation of CB's.

I'd make that deal and never look back. Although I'd prefer it be to a team in the NFC, not the AFC.

freestater · 01-28-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by endgameeugenics

No Franchise Clause
Revis has a clause in his contract that prevents him from being franchised and allows him to be a free agent after next season. I'm not sure any team would go all in on Revis not knowing what his future holds, and now coming off ACL surgery. I think Revis will be a Jet all season and after this contract he's free to do whatever. We'll get a pick if he signs elsewhere if I'm not mistaken???

yeh. A conditional 3rd. Which is essentially a high 4th rounder. You know... without the benefit of a good nights sleep to think the pick through.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 01-28-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fidelioion

Unless we get this year and next's...

Manning has a limited window, Denver has to try and win now.

He looked like he was done by overtime if not sooner and maybe the reason why Fox had him take a knee. Don't think he can make the long throws anymore.

JonEJet · 01-28-2013, 12:43 PM

Lol

Revis isn't getting traded

Have fun with all your possible trades

revischrist · 01-28-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

The reason why people want first rounders next year is b.c there could be three great players at the top of the draft (Bridgewater, Clowney and Manziel). With 2 first rounders we would be able to move up and snag one. Heck, we might be in position for one without moving up.

If a team has the first pick and can get Clowney, they aren't going to trade down and pass on a defensive prospect of the decade And if Bridgewater turns out to be the next RG3, odds are one of the teams with the 1st/2nd pick will need a QB and not trade him away. Our hope of landing Clowney/Teddy are that we are so bad this year we end up with the 1st or 2nd pick. Otherwise, we aren't getting either one.

You also cannot trade away Revis for a pick next year on the HOPES that we can parlay that pick into a trade up for a player. You are giving up a stud this year, you need a 1st round pick this year (at a minimum). Especially since the team we are trading REvis too will probably be a contender next and therefore the pick will be in the late 20s.

revischrist · 01-28-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

1st and 3rd in 2013 (this years draft) + 3rd, 5th & 7th in 2014.

PatsFanTX · 01-28-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefst2000

No I said a 1st in 2014 and a 2nd +3rd this year. I see that as feasible.

Sorry, I misread your original post.

The above is very feasible.

SONNY WERBLIN · 01-28-2013, 12:46 PM

Why trade for Revis. They can just wait for the Rams to cut Finnegan and sign him or sign a free agent like Talib.

JetPotato · 01-28-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IM3

Might want to take a shot at next year's 1, that team is one Manning neck flare up from a top 10 pick

No, they aren't.

They were a playoff team last year too, when Tebow was the qb. If anything, they're better now.

Bonhomme Richard · 01-28-2013, 12:49 PM

Sounds like a knee-jerk reaction on Elway's part.

01-28-2013, 12:46 PM	#38
SONNY WERBLIN Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,357	Why trade for Revis. They can just wait for the Rams to cut Finnegan and sign him or sign a free agent like Talib. Last edited by SONNY WERBLIN; 01-28-2013 at 02:44 PM.

01-28-2013, 12:24 PM	#21
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,411	The Jets should trade for a first round pick in this year's draft. If they go for a 2014 first rounder, I guarantee the team they trade with wins the Super Bowl next season.

01-28-2013, 12:26 PM	#22
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,820	Denver is in over react mode. They lost because manning couldnt throw the ball more the 10 yards the entire 2nd half of the game. His arm was shot. But elway cant see this because then he has to blame himself. So cornerback will be the scapegoat. Did manning have a great year, yes. Did they lose because of manning, no. Did they lose because manning was incapable of winning the game in the end - yes. This is like when we over reacted and drafted mike nugent because we thought our only issue was doug brien. Strike while the wounds are fresh and hose elway in a deal.

01-28-2013, 12:27 PM	#23
nycuse Veteran Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,291	for Mays OLB straight up.

01-28-2013, 12:28 PM	#24
KRL Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,720	Elway knows his window is closing rapidly because Manning won't be around for long. If Idzik plays it right he can make him overpay in picks. Elway and everyone in DEN has to cringe watching the tape of Bailey getting burned repeatedly in the playoffs

01-28-2013, 12:39 PM	#29
mrcoops sleepy All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 5,489	They have to take Tebow back as part of the deal.... Revis and Tebow for Ossweiler (sp?) plus a #1 and a #2.

01-28-2013, 12:41 PM	#31
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	1st and 3rd in 2013 (this years draft) + 3rd, 5th & 7th in 2014. A talent-deficiant team can best get better by trading one guy for 4+ potential guys. We get 9 (I think) picks in 2013 and 10 picks in 2014. Patriots-Style Rebuild/Restock of Talent. If Denver really believed Revis was the "missing piece" they'll make this deal in a milisecond, and Revis can go play alongside (or replace) Champ Baily, the Revis is the last generation of CB's. I'd make that deal and never look back. Although I'd prefer it be to a team in the NFC, not the AFC.

01-28-2013, 12:43 PM	#34
JonEJet Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 11,370	Lol Revis isn't getting traded Have fun with all your possible trades

01-28-2013, 12:49 PM	#40
Bonhomme Richard Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 4,094	Sounds like a knee-jerk reaction on Elway's part.