Reaons to vote for

[jetman67]

Ok, Heres where you post why we should vote for Kerry. This thread is not the slam Bush or anyone else. If you support Kerry, let us know why we would want him for president.

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[jets5ever]

His hair.

[latinlawyer]

[quote][i]Originally posted by jetman67[/i]@May 7 2004, 08:30 AM
[b] Ok, Heres where you post why we should vote for Kerry. This thread is not the slam Bush or anyone else. If you support Kerry, let us know why we would want him for president.

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Hmm...lemme see...

Kerry pledges to get the troops home
Kerry pledges to get the USA to be more of a multilateralist (include the UN/Nato in missions)
Kerry has served in the Military
kerry has bigger teeth

LL

[yourworstmemory]

he isn't bush

[chiefst2000]

Kerry promises to defer all issues of national security to the UN
Kerry has promised to raise our taxes.

[Jet Moses]

[quote][i]Originally posted by yourworstmemory[/i]@May 7 2004, 09:31 AM
[b] he isn't bush [/b][/quote]
Not according to Bitonti.

[yourworstmemory]

i really don't think bit believes they share the same body...

[bman]

the axis of stupidity (rumsfeld/wolfiwitz/cheney will be gone

[Come Back to NY]

1- he's against the war in Iraq...oh wait, he voted for the war...sorry..

2- he'll protect jobs in America.....oh wait, he voted for Nafta...sorry...

3- he'll support our troops....oh wait, he spat in the face of his brother soldiers upon returning from Nam...sorry

3- he'll win the war on terrorism with increased intelligence...oh, wait, he constantly tried to push legislation through the senate in the 90's to gut our intelligence communities...sorry

4- he'll throw special interest out of Washington...oh, wait, he takes more money from special interest groups than any other senator....sorry

5-he'll protect the enviroment...oh wait, his family, not he, drive SUV's...sorry

6- free ketchup for everyone!!

[bman]

i don't like kerry at all...
In fact i wish someone other than a party line guy could ever win...
unfortunately that can't happen in this country...
but he isn't bush so he gets my vote

[jets5ever]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 10:23 AM
[b] i don't like kerry at all...
In fact i wish someone other than a party line guy could ever win...
unfortunately that can't happen in this country...
but he isn't bush so he gets my vote [/b][/quote]
I largely agree. I loathe the two-party system. I plan to vote for Bush for pretty much the same reason - he's not Kerry (and not Nader).

But, I share your general distaste...honestly....

[bitonti]

cause he's not Bush

and we can't let 1-issue reactionaries like 5ever outlaw abortion through Supreme Court appointments

also there's way more chance of getting Weed legal under Kerry ;)

[chiefst2000]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 7 2004, 10:48 AM
[b] cause he's not Bush

and we can't let 1-issue reactionaries like 5ever outlaw abortion through Supreme Court appointments

also there's way more chance of getting Weed legal under Kerry ;) [/b][/quote]
That sums it up pretty well. No one has anything good to say about Kerry. The best you can do is say hes not Bush. Thats fine. My question is do you think the ABB crowd will mobilize enough to get ABB elected? I doubt it. There is no passion for ABB. Even ABB's biggest supporters dont have anything good to say about him. Bit, if your #1 concern is Abortion rights then I say vote for ABB. Personally I am pro choice. Realistically that issue is extremely low on my totem pole of important issues. Just the fact that ABB is running solely on his sketchy Vietnam record says alot. How about running on your voting records or running on your vision.

[jets5ever]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 7 2004, 10:48 AM
[b] cause he's not Bush

and we can't let 1-issue reactionaries like 5ever outlaw abortion through Supreme Court appointments

also there's way more chance of getting Weed legal under Kerry ;) [/b][/quote]
ha ha, good one, Bit.

I suppose holding a view that is shared by 50% of the country is "extreme."

Funny, the adjective 'extreme' is always used to describe people who are pro-life, never pro-abortion. Like, a pro-abortion person who thinks 12-year old girls shouldn't have to get parental consent aren't described as "extremely pro-abortion." You need parental consent for a 17-year old to go on a field trip, but no, murdering a baby is simply a "choice" and if you don't agree, you are a radical "reactionary."

[yourworstmemory]

why would anyone who smokes weed want it to be legal? i smoke all the time, in fact i will probly smoke it in a few minutes...but i want it to stay illegal...i don't want the gov't to profit from it and the prices to skyrocket...

also, tobacco used to be a mild hallucinogen until companies started messing with it...

keep it illegal!

[jetman67]

I still havent seen much of why I should vote for Kerry. I read alot of anti Bush stuff here, so I know many of you want Kerry. Someone give me some solid reasons why Kerry deserves my vote.

[Jet Moses]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 7 2004, 10:48 AM
[b]
and we can't let 1-issue reactionaries like 5ever outlaw abortion through Supreme Court appointments

[/b][/quote]
Bit, that's an interesting point, because it precludes your assumption that, in order to "outlaw" something, it would have to already be a "law", which it's not.

It's the legislature's job to make law, not the supreme court. But I guess our constitution is only a "living breathing document" when it is convenient for the left. When it fails in it's expediency, the leftist, socialist, democrat scumbags use it to wipe their asses.

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Hillary Clinton Wants to End Electoral College
Friday, 10 November 2000 22:58 (ET)


ALBANY, N.Y., Nov. 10 (UPI) -- Sen.-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton made a
victory lap Friday to six upstate New York cities to thank her supporters
and to call for an end to the Electoral College.

"I'm back here first and foremost to say thank you," Clinton said at
Albany International Airport. "We are a very different country than we were
200 years ago, and I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect
the will of the people and to me, that means it's time to do away with the
Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president."

Clinton said she thinks that if the president wins the Electoral College
but not the popular vote there will be support for the long and time
consuming effort to change the U.S. Constitution. She said that she
supported getting rid of the Electoral College for years.

"It's like many other issues that you think about and you develop an
opinion about but it doesn't rise to the top of any agenda because there are
other more pressing issues," Clinton said. "But there's no escaping that we
are now in a situation where I think most Americans of either party would
have to admit we should try to create a national consensus to do away with
the Electoral College."

The Electoral College is part of the U.S. Constitution. It would be
necessary to pass a Constitutional amendment to change this system.

Under the most common method for amending the Constitution, an amendment
must be proposed by a two-thirds majority in both houses of Congress and
ratified by three-fourths of the states.

According to the National Archives, in the past 200 years, over 700
proposals have been introduced in the U.S. Congress to reform or eliminate
the Electoral College. In fact, there have been more proposals for
Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any
other subject. The American Bar Association has criticized the Electoral
College as "archaic" and "ambiguous" and its polling showed 69 percent of
lawyers favored abolishing it in 1987.

There already is GOP support for abolishing the Electoral College from the
presidential race. A bill introduced by Republican Rep. Ray LaHood, of
Illinois, was introduced in the U.S. Congress several years ago but has
languished with little support.

"They will tripping over each other to get back to Washington to do
something with that law. It's something I thought none of us would ever see
-- that a person would win in raw numbers and lose an election," said Rep.
Jack Quinn, a Republican representing Buffalo, N.Y. "It's crazy. They'll all
will be wanting to change it."

However, while the first lady said she will co-sponsor the bill to begin
the end of the Electoral College she will have two strikes against her. One,
she is a Democrat in what appears will be a Republican-controlled U.S.
Senate; and two, the U.S. Senate apportions clout on the basis of seniority.

"When you come into the Senate, no matter how famous you may have been
before you got there, you've got one vote, and you get on the seniority
ladder at the bottom. And we'll be happy to welcome all the new senators,
and they'll start at the bottom, just like anyone who's come here over the
years," Sen. Mitch McConnell, (R-Ky.) told the Albany Times Union.

"The Senate is a great leveler."

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, a Republican, agreed. "Clinton won't be
afforded any breaks and shouldn't expect her position as the first lady to
translate into effective lawmaking," Lott told the Albany, N.Y. newspaper.
"She will be one of 100 and we won't let her forget it." Although Clinton
served as first lady for eight years and became the only first lady to win
an elective office she said she would take time to find her "footing."

"You have to be willing to work hard to learn the ropes and the rules,
build relationships with people, all of which I intend to do," Clinton said.
Interestingly, when Clinton takes her oath of office at the beginning of
January she will still be serving as first lady until the next president is
sworn in on Jan. 20.

[yourworstmemory]

[quote][i]Originally posted by jetman67[/i]@May 8 2004, 10:39 PM
[b] I still havent seen much of why I should vote for Kerry. I read alot of anti Bush stuff here, so I know many of you want Kerry. Someone give me some solid reasons why Kerry deserves my vote. [/b][/quote]
because he isn't bush...thats all i can think of...i don't like bush, but i don't like kerry at all, i really wish someone else would have won the democratic bid because i probably won't even vote cause really, i just don't like either of them and its almost impossible for a 3rd party to win...ok...ill say it, it is impossible...

[Jet Moses]

[quote][i]Originally posted by jetman67[/i]@May 8 2004, 10:39 PM
[b] I still havent seen much of why I should vote for Kerry. I read alot of anti Bush stuff here, so I know many of you want Kerry. Someone give me some solid reasons why Kerry deserves my vote. [/b][/quote]
The silence is deafening.

[outsider]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 7 2004, 10:48 AM
[b] also there's way more chance of getting Weed legal under Kerry ;) [/b][/quote]
Bit, I am totally with you on that one dude.