Chalk Talk Draft '04

[FreddyG]

Here are the teams. Who has the best FANTASY team, although I already know who. FreddyG - a.k.a. The Champ!

Starting lineups = 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 RB/WR, 1DEF, 1K, 1D (any Def player), 2DL (a LB or DL) and 2DB.

whymemom
Pick Pos Player Team
04.12 QB Steve McNair Ten/9
01.01 QB Brett Favre GB/9
25.01 QB Jay Fiedler Mia/10
10.12 RB Thomas Jones Chi/5
13.01 RB Tatum Bell - R Den/10
20.12 RB Steven Jackson - R StL/8
21.01 RB William Green Cle/8
05.01 WR Koren Robinson Sea/4
07.01 WR Joey Galloway TB/8
06.12 WR Charles Rogers Det/4
22.12 WR Terry Glenn Dal/4
14.12 WR Kevin Johnson Bal/6
15.01 TE Boo Williams NO/8
24.12 TE Itula Mili Sea/4
12.12 PK David Akers Phi/5
23.01 PK Nate Kaeding - R SD/10
19.01 DB Mike Doss Ind/6
08.12 DB Champ Bailey Den/10
17.01 DB DeAngelo Hall - R Atl/9
09.01 DB Chris Gamble - R Car/3
02.12 LB Ray Lewis Bal/6
03.01 LB Brian Urlacher Chi/5
16.12 LB Mike Vrabel NE/3
18.12 DEF Chicago Chi/5
11.01 DEF Denver Den/10

The Blackout
Pick Pos Player Team
01.02 QB Peyton Manning Ind/6
09.02 QB Josh McCown Ari/6
06.11 RB Quentin Griffin Den/10
10.11 RB Anthony Thomas Chi/5
07.02 WR Isaac Bruce StL/8
14.11 WR Jerry Rice Oak/10
16.11 WR Troy Brown NE/3
25.02 WR Ricky Proehl Car/3
20.11 WR Wayne Chrebet NYJ/3
08.11 TE Marcus Pollard Ind/6
24.11 TE Anthony Becht NYJ/3
03.02 PK Mike Vanderjagt Ind/6
21.02 PK Jay Feely Atl/9
22.11 PK Josh Brown Sea/4
19.02 DL Greg Ellis Dal/4
11.02 DL Ted Washington Oak/10
04.11 DB Ty Law NE/3
15.02 DB Lawyer Milloy Buf/3
13.02 DB Tyrone Poole NE/3
23.02 DB Ronde Barber TB/8
17.02 DB Troy Vincent Buf/3
18.11 DB John Lynch Den/10
12.11 LB Tedy Bruschi NE/3
05.02 DEF New England NE/3
02.11 DEF Baltimore Bal/6

JonETeamDominance
Pick Pos Player Team
08.10 QB Jake Plummer Den/10
09.03 QB David Carr Hou/7
20.10 QB Patrick Ramsey Was/7
01.03 RB Priest Holmes KC/5
03.03 RB Marshall Faulk StL/8
11.03 RB Lee Suggs Cle/8
14.10 RB DeShaun Foster Car/3
25.03 RB Justin Fargas Oak/10
02.10 RB Jon Ritchie Phi/5
05.03 WR Eric Moulds Buf/3
04.10 WR Joe Horn NO/8
06.10 WR Javon Walker GB/9
10.10 WR Brandon Lloyd SF/7
13.03 WR Reggie Williams - R Jac/9
07.03 TE Alge Crumpler Atl/9
21.03 TE Jason Witten Dal/4
18.10 PK John Kasay Car/3
22.10 PK Martin Gramatica TB/8
17.03 DL Adewale Ogunleye Mia/10
23.03 DL Courtney Brown Cle/8
12.10 DL Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila GB/9
19.03 DB Antoine Winfield Min/4
24.10 DB Charles Woodson Oak/10
15.03 DB Chris McAlister Bal/6
16.10 DEF Kansas City KC/5

The Champ
Pick Pos Player Team
04.09 QB Aaron Brooks NO/8
05.04 QB Marc Bulger StL/8
11.04 QB Drew Bledsoe Buf/3
01.04 RB Deuce McAllister NO/8
02.09 RB Kevan Barlow SF/7
03.04 RB Fred Taylor Jac/9
08.09 RB Chris Brown Ten/9
13.04 RB Correll Buckhalter Phi/5
09.04 WR Rod Smith Den/10
06.09 WR Andre Johnson Hou/7
10.09 WR Marty Booker Chi/5
07.04 WR Jimmy Smith Jac/9
20.09 WR Eddie Kennison KC/5
18.09 TE Daniel Graham NE/3
21.04 TE Jim Kleinsasser Min/4
17.04 PK Jason Elam Den/10
25.04 PK Morten Andersen KC/5
12.09 DB Adam Archuleta StL/8
15.04 DB Fred Thomas NO/8
23.04 DB Sammy Knight Mia/10
14.09 LB Anthony Simmons Sea/4
22.09 LB London Fletcher Buf/3
16.09 LB Jay Foreman Hou/7
19.04 DEF St.Louis StL/8
24.09 DEF Green Bay GB/9

Chumps
Pick Pos Player Team
05.05 QB Brad Johnson TB/8
06.08 QB Tommy Maddox Pit/7
09.05 QB Joey Harrington Det/4
01.05 RB LaDainian Tomlinson SD/10
02.08 RB Corey Dillon NE/3
03.05 RB Rudi Johnson Cin/5
13.05 RB Jerome Bettis Pit/7
07.05 WR Amani Toomer NYG/6
04.08 WR Plaxico Burress Pit/7
17.05 WR Quincy Morgan Cle/8
08.08 WR Keenan McCardell TB/8
23.05 WR Josh Reed Buf/3
16.08 TE Randy McMichael Mia/10
22.08 PK John Carney NO/8
11.05 DL Michael Strahan NYG/6
19.05 DL Dwight Freeney Ind/6
14.08 DB Darren Sharper GB/9
18.08 DB Tony Parrish SF/7
20.08 DB Troy Polamalu Pit/7
10.08 LB Donnie Edwards SD/10
21.05 LB Mike Peterson Jac/9
24.08 LB Michael Barrow Was/7
25.05 LB Kendrell Bell Pit/7
15.05 LB Terrell Suggs Bal/6
12.08 DEF Pittsburgh Pit/7

Team Smizzy
Pick Pos Player Team
02.07 QB Daunte Culpepper Min/4
03.06 QB Donovan McNabb Phi/5
01.06 RB Ahman Green GB/9
07.06 RB Eddie George Ten/9
04.07 RB Brian Westbrook Phi/5
22.07 RB Damien Anderson Ari/6
05.06 WR Steve Smith Car/3
08.07 WR Jerry Porter Oak/10
09.06 WR Keyshawn Johnson Dal/4
14.07 WR Donte' Stallworth NO/8
19.06 WR David Givens NE/3
21.06 WR Andre' Davis Cle/8
06.07 TE Jeremy Shockey NYG/6
16.07 PK Matt Stover Bal/6
20.07 DL Mike Rucker Car/3
11.06 DL Jason Taylor Mia/10
23.06 DL Richard Seymour NE/3
15.06 DB Brian Russell Min/4
13.06 DB Patrick Surtain Mia/10
10.07 LB Jamie Sharper Hou/7
25.06 LB James Farrior Pit/7
18.07 LB Julian Peterson SF/7
17.06 LB Joey Porter Pit/7
12.07 DEF Philadelphia Phi/5
24.07 DEF Seattle Sea/4

Lake Erie Disease
Pick Pos Player Team
09.07 QB Mark Brunell Was/7
11.07 QB Carson Palmer Cin/5
10.06 QB Rex Grossman Chi/5
01.07 RB Shaun Alexander Sea/4
02.06 RB Travis Henry Buf/3
07.07 RB Duce Staley Pit/7
17.07 RB Onterrio Smith Min/4
06.06 RB Julius Jones - R Dal/4
03.07 WR Santana Moss NYJ/3
05.07 WR Darrell Jackson Sea/4
04.06 WR Anquan Boldin Ari/6
15.07 WR Tyrone Calico Ten/9
13.07 TE Antonio Gates SD/10
22.06 TE Erron Kinney Ten/9
25.07 PK Doug Brien NYJ/3
19.07 DB Terence Newman Dal/4
18.06 DB Brian Dawkins Phi/5
14.06 DB Roy Williams Dal/4
24.06 DB Marcus Trufant Sea/4
08.06 LB Keith Bulluck Ten/9
16.06 LB Derrick Brooks TB/8
23.07 LB Nate Webster Cin/5
21.07 LB Peter Boulware Bal/6
12.06 DEF Carolina Car/3
20.06 DEF Jacksonville Jac/9

THE WINNER
Pick Pos Player Team
05.08 QB Trent Green KC/5
06.05 QB Jeff Garcia Cle/8
08.05 QB Jake Delhomme Car/3
01.08 RB Clinton Portis Was/7
02.05 RB Stephen Davis Car/3
03.08 RB Curtis Martin NYJ/3
25.08 RB Troy Hambrick Oak/10
04.05 WR Chad Johnson Cin/5
17.08 WR Muhsin Muhammad Car/3
07.08 WR Reggie Wayne Ind/6
11.08 WR Rod Gardner Was/7
16.05 WR Roy Williams - R Det/4
20.05 WR Ike Hilliard NYG/6
15.08 TE Dallas Clark Ind/6
21.08 TE Christian Fauria NE/3
22.05 PK Paul Edinger Chi/5
13.08 DB Greg Wesley KC/5
14.05 DB Rodney Harrison NE/3
23.08 DB Quentin Jammer SD/10
24.05 DB Ahmed Plummer SF/7
18.05 DB Ray Buchanan Oak/10
09.08 LB Keith Brooking Atl/9
10.05 LB LaVar Arrington Was/7
19.08 LB Sam Cowart NYJ/3
12.05 DEF Miami Mia/10

pauly rockers
Pick Pos Player Team
02.04 QB Chad Pennington NYJ/3
16.04 QB Philip Rivers - R SD/10
25.09 QB Kerry Collins Oak/10
01.09 RB Jamal Lewis Bal/6
20.04 RB Warrick Dunn Atl/9
13.09 RB Garrison Hearst Den/10
21.09 RB Emmitt Smith Ari/6
03.09 WR Hines Ward Pit/7
04.04 WR Justin McCareins NYJ/3
22.04 WR Donald Driver GB/9
14.04 WR Drew Bennett Ten/9
15.09 WR Marcus Robinson Min/4
05.09 TE Todd Heap Bal/6
24.04 TE Desmond Clark Chi/5
07.09 PK Sebastian JanikowskiOak/10
23.09 PK Olindo Mare Mia/10
11.09 DL John Abraham NYJ/3
10.04 DL Shaun Ellis NYJ/3
18.04 DL Justin Smith Cin/5
09.09 DB Phillip Buchanon Oak/10
12.04 DB Donnie Abraham NYJ/3
08.04 DB Chris Hope Pit/7
19.09 LB Zack Thomas Mia/10
06.04 DEF Dallas Dal/4
17.09 DEF NY Jets NYJ/3

NYJets80
Pick Pos Player Team
10.03 QB Rich Gannon Oak/10
11.10 QB Tim Rattay SF/7
15.10 QB Quincy Carter Dal/4
23.10 QB Vinny Testaverde Dal/4
02.03 RB Domanick Davis Hou/7
07.10 RB Kevin Jones - R Det/4
18.03 RB Moe Williams Min/4
19.10 RB Ricky Williams Mia/10
01.10 WR Randy Moss Min/4
03.10 WR Terrell Owens Phi/5
04.03 WR Laveranues Coles Was/7
05.10 WR Chris Chambers Mia/10
21.10 WR Dennis Northcutt Cle/8
06.03 TE Kellen Winslow - R Cle/8
22.03 TE Freddie Jones Ari/6
09.10 PK Jeff Wilkins StL/8
25.10 PK Jason Hanson Det/4
17.10 DL Jevon Kearse Phi/5
12.03 DL Warren Sapp Oak/10
16.03 DB Dre Bly Det/4
13.10 DB Jerry Azumah Chi/5
24.03 DB Nate Clements Buf/3
14.03 DB R. W. McQuarters Chi/5
08.03 DEF Tampa Bay TB/8
20.03 DEF Tennessee Ten/9

The Gingerbread Men
Pick Pos Player Team
01.11 QB Michael Vick Atl/9
06.02 QB Tom Brady NE/3
24.02 QB AJ Feeley Mia/10
15.11 QB Kyle Boller Bal/6
03.11 RB Michael Bennett Min/4
07.11 RB T.J. Duckett Atl/9
21.11 RB Mike Alstott TB/8
18.02 RB Willis McGahee Buf/3
02.02 WR Torry Holt StL/8
04.02 WR Derrick Mason Ten/9
13.11 WR Ashley Lelie Den/10
19.11 WR Deion Branch NE/3
09.11 WR Larry Fitzgerald - R Ari/6
10.02 TE Bubba Franks GB/9
23.11 TE L.J. Smith Phi/5
17.11 PK Adam Vinatieri NE/3
12.02 DL Julius Peppers Car/3
05.11 DL Simeon Rice TB/8
25.11 DL Grant Wistrom Sea/4
22.02 DB Deltha O'Neal Cin/5
08.02 DB Ed Reed Bal/6
16.02 DB Corey Chavous Min/4
20.02 LB Dat Nguyen Dal/4
11.11 LB Takeo Spikes Buf/3
14.02 DEF Minnesota Min/4

VA Vipers
Pick Pos Player Team
04.01 QB Matt Hasselbeck Sea/4
08.01 QB Byron Leftwich Jac/9
11.12 QB Kurt Warner NYG/6
24.01 QB Eli Manning - R NYG/6
02.01 RB Edgerrin James Ind/6
06.01 RB Tiki Barber NYG/6
09.12 RB Charlie Garner TB/8
07.12 RB Marcel Shipp Ari/6
18.01 RB Tyrone Wheatley Oak/10
21.12 RB Travis Minor Mia/10
01.12 WR Marvin Harrison Ind/6
05.12 WR Peerless Price Atl/9
10.01 WR David Boston Mia/10
12.01 WR Peter Warrick Cin/5
23.12 WR Rashaun Woods - R SF/7
03.12 TE Tony Gonzalez KC/5
25.12 TE Mikhael Ricks NYJ/3
19.12 PK Ryan Longwell GB/9
15.12 DB Sean Taylor - R Was/7
20.01 DB Ken Hamlin Sea/4
14.01 LB Nick Barnett GB/9
13.12 LB Andra Davis Cle/8
17.12 LB Scott Fujita KC/5
22.01 LB Dhani Jones Phi/5
16.01 DEF Buffalo Buf/3

[blackout806]

Originally posted by FreddyG@Jul 27 2004, 08:17 AM

The Blackout
Pick Pos Player Team
01.02 QB Peyton Manning Ind/6
09.02 QB Josh McCown Ari/6
06.11 RB Quentin Griffin Den/10
10.11 RB Anthony Thomas Chi/5
07.02 WR Isaac Bruce StL/8
14.11 WR Jerry Rice Oak/10
16.11 WR Troy Brown NE/3
25.02 WR Ricky Proehl Car/3
20.11 WR Wayne Chrebet NYJ/3
08.11 TE Marcus Pollard Ind/6
24.11 TE Anthony Becht NYJ/3
03.02 PK Mike Vanderjagt Ind/6
21.02 PK Jay Feely Atl/9
22.11 PK Josh Brown Sea/4
19.02 DL Greg Ellis Dal/4
11.02 DL Ted Washington Oak/10
04.11 DB Ty Law NE/3
15.02 DB Lawyer Milloy Buf/3
13.02 DB Tyrone Poole NE/3
23.02 DB Ronde Barber TB/8
17.02 DB Troy Vincent Buf/3
18.11 DB John Lynch Den/10
12.11 LB Tedy Bruschi NE/3
05.02 DEF New England NE/3
02.11 DEF Baltimore Bal/6

I think its rather obvious

this "Blackout" character has talent at every position :o

this list however is somewhat false, I dont have Jay Feely (thankfully), and I dont have Josh Brown

[Smizzy]

Who is "22.07 RB Damien Anderson Ari/6"???

I didn't draft him who ever he is.

[FreddyG]

I may have missed a few of the later round picks, send me your corrections and I'll edit your team.

Blackout, you're in sweet dose of reality once the season starts. With those RB's, the most important position, you won't even be .500. Thomas and Griffin aren't even projected starters!

Also, pro-bowlers don't equate to good fantasy players, especially on defense. The only two worth keeping are Law and Bruschi (borderline). By the end of the year, I predict you'll have a completely different set of defensive players but, if I were you I wouldn't wait to hit the waiver wire and drop those Fantasy bums for some guys that will score points.

Peyton Manning is a stud QB, but you drafted him with the second overall pick (mistake!) and you only have two QB's, meaning you'll be starting McNown every week. You won't have a QB to start at all in week 6.

At WR, all you have are a bunch of #2 & #3 WR's.

Vanderjagt may be the best K but taking him in the 3rd, where I was able to grab Fred Taylor, a top10 RB, was another serious mistake.

My draft would have been perfect if I would have taken Green instead of Bulger who doesn't have the same bye week as Brooks. The beauty of my goes much deeper when you see how my backups have easy weeks on the same weeks my starters face the toughest defenses. And i have the best strength of schedule for my key players during the playoff weeks, which I should make easily barring too much bad luck.

[The Troll]

I think my team has the POTENTIAL to be the best. I've got the best corps of recievers, but I'm a little thin at running back. Still, if Bennett stays healthy, he could be a 1,000 yard back, and Duckett scored 11 touchdowns splitting time last season and he'll go into this year as a starter.

[VAJetsFan]

Originally posted by The Troll@Jul 28 2004, 04:15 PM
Still, if Bennett stays healthy, he could be a 1,000 yard back

I think Bennett was your best pick of the draft...I was hoping he'd slip to me at the end of the round. Unfortunately you don't have much else going on there, so you're screwed if he goes down and on his bye week.

In your spot I think I would've grabbed Faulk/Taylor/Henry/Davis before Holt in round 2 and been set at RB and QB1 before grabbing Mason on the turn. I just think it's easier to fill in the WR spot in the middle rounds than finding a RB.

[blackout806]

Originally posted by FreddyG@Jul 28 2004, 11:16 AM
I may have missed a few of the later round picks, send me your corrections and I'll edit your team.

Blackout, you're in sweet dose of reality once the season starts. With those RB's, the most important position, you won't even be .500. Thomas and Griffin aren't even projected starters!

Also, pro-bowlers don't equate to good fantasy players, especially on defense. The only two worth keeping are Law and Bruschi (borderline). By the end of the year, I predict you'll have a completely different set of defensive players but, if I were you I wouldn't wait to hit the waiver wire and drop those Fantasy bums for some guys that will score points.

Peyton Manning is a stud QB, but you drafted him with the second overall pick (mistake!) and you only have two QB's, meaning you'll be starting McNown every week. You won't have a QB to start at all in week 6.

At WR, all you have are a bunch of #2 & #3 WR's.

Vanderjagt may be the best K but taking him in the 3rd, where I was able to grab Fred Taylor, a top10 RB, was another serious mistake.

My draft would have been perfect if I would have taken Green instead of Bulger who doesn't have the same bye week as Brooks. The beauty of my goes much deeper when you see how my backups have easy weeks on the same weeks my starters face the toughest defenses. And i have the best strength of schedule for my key players during the playoff weeks, which I should make easily barring too much bad luck.

I have Jay Fiedler as my #3 QB lol

And Isaac Bruce is the best #2 reciever in football, he gets more yards than alot of #1 recievers get

and McCown will be a stud this season (with Anquan Boldin, Nathan Poole and Larry Fitzgerald)