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ErIcBaRtOn50 · 12-07-2004, 05:00 PM

???????

this guy was nothing special here in ny, now he leads the league in tackles I think and is having his best season ever.

unbelievable, I guess the players around him make him better than he really is, or the system was really bad when he played for us. I mean, we had marvin and mo, and he was nothing great. now he has porter and bell, and is awesome. oh well

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rsherryjr · 12-07-2004, 05:01 PM

He had a very good season last year too. He was always a good backer imo just used wrong in the old defense that was here at the time.

Brooklyn Jet · 12-07-2004, 05:04 PM

I'm getting old, but didn't we used to use Farrior as a 4-3 linebacker for at least part of the time he was here, when he was naturally suited to be a 3-4 linebacker? A lot of guys need the perfect fit to be comfortable and effective. We saw it with Cowart playing on the outside last year.

Although as I check the Steelers site, Farrior is playing inside linebacker this year, but he is still in a 3-4, so my general assertion stands that he was misused/a bad fit at the time. Depending on what perspective you look at it from. :lol:

Jack Straw · 12-07-2004, 05:05 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by ErIcBaRtOn50[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 05:00 PM
[b] ???????

this guy was nothing special here in ny, now he leads the league in tackles I think and is having his best season ever.

unbelievable, I guess the players around him make him better than he really is, or the system was really bad when he played for us. I mean, we had marvin and mo, and he was nothing great. now he has porter and bell, and is awesome. oh well

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[SIZE=3]STEELERS ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!![/color][/SIZE] [/b][/quote]
Farrior Wasn't terrible with us, but he wasn't great either. He never lived up to his status as the 8th player chosen overall in that draft.

Penning10 · 12-07-2004, 05:10 PM

He had one good year with us, the last year with us recording 145 tackles. Last year he had a great year 141 tackles, but this year hes nowhere near that with 71 tackles well behind ray lewis who has 116.

Smizzy · 12-07-2004, 05:11 PM

James Farrior = Sam Cowart 1st 3 yrs

Misused <_<

Evsbabes · 12-07-2004, 07:03 PM

As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one.

We should of been smart and resigned him then.

But, we were stupid and let him go.

JETFAN1 · 12-07-2004, 07:06 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by Smizzy[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 05:11 PM
[b] James Farrior = Sam Cowart 1st 3 yrs

Misused <_< [/b][/quote]
Couldn't agree more.

124 · 12-07-2004, 07:18 PM

Farrior was a good LB here and I was upset when he left. Oh well, Cowart is going to be gone in the offseason too and it wouldn't surprised me if he played well for another team too. But hey, i'm happy with our trio of Barton, Vilma and Hobson. 3 young guys who should be together for years here.

JetMan55 · 12-07-2004, 07:59 PM

Farrior had 174 tackles his last year in Big GREEN

rbstern · 12-07-2004, 09:29 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM
[b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one.

We should of been smart and resigned him then.

But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote]
No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less.

He's a good linebacker.

I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks.

TheBrodyMan · 12-07-2004, 09:32 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by rbstern+Dec 7 2004, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (rbstern @ Dec 7 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM
[b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one.

We should of been smart and resigned him then.

But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote]
No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less.

He's a good linebacker.

I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks. [/b][/quote]
Agreed.

We cant have everyone guys. Thats the way the cap rolls. I wish we couldve kept him, Coles, and Thomas but the cap wont allow it. It sucks, but thats the way it is.

Id be more upset if we were struggling at the LB spot but we are in pretty good shape right now.

Tailgater · 12-07-2004, 09:47 PM

If Cowart is not a Jet next year, I'd bet he signs with the Pats.

He thrived in Buffalo in a 3-4 w/ Big Ted in front of him. He did well behind Drob & co, so I'd expect him to be the FA pickup of the yr for the Pats, just in time to replace Phifer in the middle.

LesterLyles · 12-07-2004, 10:38 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by rbstern+Dec 7 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (rbstern @ Dec 7 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM
[b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one.

We should of been smart and resigned him then.

But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote]
No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less.

He's a good linebacker.

I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks. [/b][/quote]
I heard he wasn't a big fan of Herm and that is why he accpted less. I do agree that for most of his career, he wasn't used properly. Also, he reported very llate his rookie year and was injured in his 2nd year so it took him a while to find his place. Ironically, the one year he really thrived in green and was actually used "correctly" was Herm's first year.

12-07-2004, 05:00 PM	#1
ErIcBaRtOn50 Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,947	??????? this guy was nothing special here in ny, now he leads the league in tackles I think and is having his best season ever. unbelievable, I guess the players around him make him better than he really is, or the system was really bad when he played for us. I mean, we had marvin and mo, and he was nothing great. now he has porter and bell, and is awesome. oh well [color=red] [SIZE=3]STEELERS ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!![/color][/SIZE]

12-07-2004, 05:01 PM	#2
rsherryjr All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,158	He had a very good season last year too. He was always a good backer imo just used wrong in the old defense that was here at the time.

12-07-2004, 05:04 PM	#3
Brooklyn Jet Ever been arrested? All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,271	I'm getting old, but didn't we used to use Farrior as a 4-3 linebacker for at least part of the time he was here, when he was naturally suited to be a 3-4 linebacker? A lot of guys need the perfect fit to be comfortable and effective. We saw it with Cowart playing on the outside last year. Although as I check the Steelers site, Farrior is playing inside linebacker this year, but he is still in a 3-4, so my general assertion stands that he was misused/a bad fit at the time. Depending on what perspective you look at it from. :lol:

12-07-2004, 05:05 PM	#4
Jack Straw digging a shallow grave Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,141	[quote][i]Originally posted by ErIcBaRtOn50[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 05:00 PM [b] ??????? this guy was nothing special here in ny, now he leads the league in tackles I think and is having his best season ever. unbelievable, I guess the players around him make him better than he really is, or the system was really bad when he played for us. I mean, we had marvin and mo, and he was nothing great. now he has porter and bell, and is awesome. oh well [color=red] [SIZE=3]STEELERS ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!![/color][/SIZE] [/b][/quote] Farrior Wasn't terrible with us, but he wasn't great either. He never lived up to his status as the 8th player chosen overall in that draft.

12-07-2004, 05:10 PM	#5
Penning10 All League Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 558	He had one good year with us, the last year with us recording 145 tackles. Last year he had a great year 141 tackles, but this year hes nowhere near that with 71 tackles well behind ray lewis who has 116.

12-07-2004, 05:11 PM	#6
Smizzy Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 10,727	James Farrior = Sam Cowart 1st 3 yrs Misused <_<

12-07-2004, 07:03 PM	#7
Evsbabes Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 315	As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one. We should of been smart and resigned him then. But, we were stupid and let him go.

12-07-2004, 07:06 PM	#8
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	[quote][i]Originally posted by Smizzy[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 05:11 PM [b] James Farrior = Sam Cowart 1st 3 yrs Misused <_< [/b][/quote] Couldn't agree more.

12-07-2004, 07:18 PM	#9
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,970	Farrior was a good LB here and I was upset when he left. Oh well, Cowart is going to be gone in the offseason too and it wouldn't surprised me if he played well for another team too. But hey, i'm happy with our trio of Barton, Vilma and Hobson. 3 young guys who should be together for years here.

12-07-2004, 07:59 PM	#10
JetMan55 All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,581	Farrior had 174 tackles his last year in Big GREEN

12-07-2004, 09:29 PM	#11
rbstern Board Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,549	[quote][i]Originally posted by Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM [b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one. We should of been smart and resigned him then. But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote] No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less. He's a good linebacker. I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks.

12-07-2004, 09:32 PM	#12
TheBrodyMan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brooklyn/Austin Posts: 2,712	[quote][i]Originally posted by rbstern+Dec 7 2004, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (rbstern @ Dec 7 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM [b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one. We should of been smart and resigned him then. But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote] No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less. He's a good linebacker. I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks. [/b][/quote] Agreed. We cant have everyone guys. Thats the way the cap rolls. I wish we couldve kept him, Coles, and Thomas but the cap wont allow it. It sucks, but thats the way it is. Id be more upset if we were struggling at the LB spot but we are in pretty good shape right now.

12-07-2004, 09:47 PM	#13
Tailgater Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,436	If Cowart is not a Jet next year, I'd bet he signs with the Pats. He thrived in Buffalo in a 3-4 w/ Big Ted in front of him. He did well behind Drob & co, so I'd expect him to be the FA pickup of the yr for the Pats, just in time to replace Phifer in the middle.

12-07-2004, 10:38 PM	#14
LesterLyles All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,092	[quote][i]Originally posted by rbstern+Dec 7 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (rbstern @ Dec 7 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evsbabes[/i]@Dec 7 2004, 07:03 PM [b] As someone already said in one of these posts, Farrier's last year with the Jets was a very, very good one. We should of been smart and resigned him then. But, we were stupid and let him go. [/b][/quote] No, they were smart. Farrior wanted BIG $ and it just wasn't gonna be. He signed with the Steelers for much less. He's a good linebacker. I'll take the guys and salary cap room we have now, thanks. [/b][/quote] I heard he wasn't a big fan of Herm and that is why he accpted less. I do agree that for most of his career, he wasn't used properly. Also, he reported very llate his rookie year and was injured in his 2nd year so it took him a while to find his place. Ironically, the one year he really thrived in green and was actually used "correctly" was Herm's first year.