What QB's have come back from a Torn Rotator Cuff?

GoBigGreen · 01-24-2005, 10:17 PM

I can't seem to remember any. I just know that its pretty bad. I was talking to a guy at work who had surgery on his, and he says he isn't and will not be the same again. Since all Chad gets paid to do is throw a ball, I am kinda thinking he is done. I would feel better if I knew of some QB's who had the same happen to them.

Green Jets & Ham · 01-24-2005, 10:24 PM

Good Question, GBG ... off the top of my head I can't think of any ... I'm hoping someone else can :unsure:

ErIcBaRtOn50 · 01-24-2005, 10:24 PM

I thought long and hard and came out with this list

here it is:

GoBigGreen · 01-24-2005, 10:29 PM

50 views and no answer.
This is not looking good.

Jet_Warrior308 · 01-24-2005, 10:32 PM

if major league pitcher can come back, then an NFL quarterback can

DE94Abraham · 01-24-2005, 10:35 PM

I think Chad will be ok. But still, we should look into drafting a young back up. I mean in mid to late rounds, whats so bad about developing a solid back up.

GoBigGreen · 01-24-2005, 10:39 PM

I think we need to go to FA 94Abe to salvage next season. I have to admit that I wasn't sold on Chad this season. I like the guy, but his injuries are mounting and are overshadowing his positives. Plus, I dont think he is the most excellent match for our new OC.

I feel bad for saying this, but as much as I like Chad, I am thinking we just flushed Millions of dollars down the crapper - and that doesnt surprise me ... JETS LUCK, STRIKES AGAIN.

jetman67 · 01-24-2005, 10:41 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by GoBigGreen[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 11:39 PM
[b] I think we need to go to FA 94Abe to salvage next season. I have to admit that I wasn't sold on Chad this season. I like the guy, but his injuries are mounting and are overshadowing his positives. Plus, I dont think he is the most excellent match for our new OC.

I feel bad for saying this, but as much as I like Chad, I am thinking we just flushed Millions of dollars down the crapper - and that doesnt surprise me ... JETS LUCK, STRIKES AGAIN. [/b][/quote]
Relax!!!! I talked to my Orthopedist today about Chad. He will be ready for training camp. With an intense rehab, his shoulder will probably be stronger than it was before.

arsenal1189 · 01-24-2005, 10:42 PM

INTENSENSE REHAB!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

SirLanceMehlot · 01-24-2005, 11:07 PM

Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff.

Rob Johnson has had surgery.

Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain.

Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm.

Jim Miller...surgery.

Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction.

A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery.

It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet.

arsenal1189 · 01-24-2005, 11:09 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by SirLanceMehlot[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 10:07 PM
[b] Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff.

Rob Johnson has had surgery.

Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain.

Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm.

Jim Miller...surgery.

Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction.

A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery.

It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet. [/b][/quote]
that was realy helpful, im just imagining what would happne with chad gone in this board :rolleyes:

patman · 01-25-2005, 05:23 AM

I believe Steve Grogan had a torn rotator and played after.

shasta · 01-25-2005, 09:30 AM

[quote][i]Originally posted by SirLanceMehlot[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 11:07 PM
[b] Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff.

Rob Johnson has had surgery.

Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain.

Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm.

Jim Miller...surgery.

Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction.

A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery.

It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet. [/b][/quote]
Your forgeting the one Player most relevant to this discussion, Tom Brady had the surgery last summer. He seems to have recovered nicely, Cad should to, but the Jets may want to see if they can add some muscle to that thing while there at it. ;)

rsherryjr · 01-25-2005, 09:33 AM

[quote][i]Originally posted by patman[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 05:23 AM
[b] I believe Steve Grogan had a torn rotator and played after. [/b][/quote]
Now there's some hope for you. :lol:

LesterLyles · 01-25-2005, 09:49 AM

All signs point to him beng back by camp. It is important to note that if pitchers can come back, Qbs can EASILY come back. If a pitcher loses even 1/100th of their original velocity or a little of their "stuff", they are screwed. W/ a QB that is not as important /c losing that 1/100th of their "stuff" wouldn't even be noticable.

Raider9175 · 01-25-2005, 06:02 PM

[quote][i]Originally posted by GoBigGreen[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 10:17 PM
[b] I can't seem to remember any. I just know that its pretty bad. I was talking to a guy at work who had surgery on his, and he says he isn't and will not be the same again. Since all Chad gets paid to do is throw a ball, I am kinda thinking he is done. I would feel better if I knew of some QB's who had the same happen to them. [/b][/quote]
R Gannon tore his labrum in 2oo3 and his arm was alot stronger in 2004 before suffering ,probably a career ending broken neck. From what i read Labrum is alot more serious injury than Rotator cup.

01-24-2005, 10:17 PM	#1
GoBigGreen Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,002	I can't seem to remember any. I just know that its pretty bad. I was talking to a guy at work who had surgery on his, and he says he isn't and will not be the same again. Since all Chad gets paid to do is throw a ball, I am kinda thinking he is done. I would feel better if I knew of some QB's who had the same happen to them.

01-24-2005, 10:24 PM	#2
Green Jets & Ham Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 41,588	Good Question, GBG ... off the top of my head I can't think of any ... I'm hoping someone else can :unsure:

01-24-2005, 10:24 PM	#3
ErIcBaRtOn50 Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,947	I thought long and hard and came out with this list here it is:

01-24-2005, 10:29 PM	#4
GoBigGreen Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,002	50 views and no answer. This is not looking good.

01-24-2005, 10:32 PM	#5
Jet_Warrior308 Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 230	if major league pitcher can come back, then an NFL quarterback can

01-24-2005, 10:35 PM	#6
DE94Abraham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New City, NY Posts: 3,036	I think Chad will be ok. But still, we should look into drafting a young back up. I mean in mid to late rounds, whats so bad about developing a solid back up.

01-24-2005, 10:39 PM	#7
GoBigGreen Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,002	I think we need to go to FA 94Abe to salvage next season. I have to admit that I wasn't sold on Chad this season. I like the guy, but his injuries are mounting and are overshadowing his positives. Plus, I dont think he is the most excellent match for our new OC. I feel bad for saying this, but as much as I like Chad, I am thinking we just flushed Millions of dollars down the crapper - and that doesnt surprise me ... JETS LUCK, STRIKES AGAIN.

01-24-2005, 10:41 PM	#8
jetman67 Wants a Superbowl, Thats It!!! Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Somewhere Posts: 10,382	[quote][i]Originally posted by GoBigGreen[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 11:39 PM [b] I think we need to go to FA 94Abe to salvage next season. I have to admit that I wasn't sold on Chad this season. I like the guy, but his injuries are mounting and are overshadowing his positives. Plus, I dont think he is the most excellent match for our new OC. I feel bad for saying this, but as much as I like Chad, I am thinking we just flushed Millions of dollars down the crapper - and that doesnt surprise me ... JETS LUCK, STRIKES AGAIN. [/b][/quote] Relax!!!! I talked to my Orthopedist today about Chad. He will be ready for training camp. With an intense rehab, his shoulder will probably be stronger than it was before.

01-24-2005, 10:42 PM	#9
arsenal1189 All Pro Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Westchester Posts: 6,795	INTENSENSE REHAB!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

01-24-2005, 11:07 PM	#10
SirLanceMehlot All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: next door Posts: 851	Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff. Rob Johnson has had surgery. Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain. Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm. Jim Miller...surgery. Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction. A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery. It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet.

01-24-2005, 11:09 PM	#11
arsenal1189 All Pro Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Westchester Posts: 6,795	[quote][i]Originally posted by SirLanceMehlot[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 10:07 PM [b] Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff. Rob Johnson has had surgery. Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain. Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm. Jim Miller...surgery. Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction. A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery. It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet. [/b][/quote] that was realy helpful, im just imagining what would happne with chad gone in this board :rolleyes:

01-25-2005, 05:23 AM	#12
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,180	I believe Steve Grogan had a torn rotator and played after.

01-25-2005, 09:30 AM	#13
shasta Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,242	[quote][i]Originally posted by SirLanceMehlot[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 11:07 PM [b] Billy Volek just had successful surgery on his cuff. Rob Johnson has had surgery. Jeff Garcia is dealing with a bad sprain. Jay Feidler will need surgery on his non-throwing arm. Jim Miller...surgery. Kevin Mawae, lest we forget, had a major cuff reconstruction. A ton of Pitchers have had cuff surgery. It's not uncommon, and likely will give him better strength and range of motion than he had since he initially strained it in his rookie season trying to match Vinny's long throws in practice. It's a good thing, so lets not shoot ourselves yet. [/b][/quote] Your forgeting the one Player most relevant to this discussion, Tom Brady had the surgery last summer. He seems to have recovered nicely, Cad should to, but the Jets may want to see if they can add some muscle to that thing while there at it. ;)

01-25-2005, 09:33 AM	#14
rsherryjr All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,158	[quote][i]Originally posted by patman[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 05:23 AM [b] I believe Steve Grogan had a torn rotator and played after. [/b][/quote] Now there's some hope for you. :lol:

01-25-2005, 09:49 AM	#15
LesterLyles All Pro Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,092	All signs point to him beng back by camp. It is important to note that if pitchers can come back, Qbs can EASILY come back. If a pitcher loses even 1/100th of their original velocity or a little of their "stuff", they are screwed. W/ a QB that is not as important /c losing that 1/100th of their "stuff" wouldn't even be noticable.

01-25-2005, 06:02 PM	#16
Raider9175 Raider football- JUST FLYNN BABY. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,370	[quote][i]Originally posted by GoBigGreen[/i]@Jan 24 2005, 10:17 PM [b] I can't seem to remember any. I just know that its pretty bad. I was talking to a guy at work who had surgery on his, and he says he isn't and will not be the same again. Since all Chad gets paid to do is throw a ball, I am kinda thinking he is done. I would feel better if I knew of some QB's who had the same happen to them. [/b][/quote] R Gannon tore his labrum in 2oo3 and his arm was alot stronger in 2004 before suffering ,probably a career ending broken neck. From what i read Labrum is alot more serious injury than Rotator cup.