George Stephanopoulos calls for assassination of Hussien

Come Back to NY · 08-24-2005, 11:17 AM

[QUOTE]Pat Robertson? No....George Stephanopoulos, in the December 1, 1997 Newsweek, explaining why Bill Clinton should have Saddam Hussein offed:

But what's unlawful -- and unpopular with the allies -- is not necessarily immoral. So now that I'm not in the White House, I can say what I couldn't say then: we should seriously explore the assassination option. Even though the current crisis may be subsiding temporarily, we don't know what the future holds. A direct attack on Saddam would no doubt be politically risky -- the president, concerned about his place in history, would be torn between the desire to get rid of a bully and the worry that an assassination plan gone awry would embarrass him late in his term. But the president should think about it: the gulf-war coalition is teetering and we have not eliminated Saddam's capacity to inflict mass destruction. That's why killing him may be the more sensible -- and moral -- course over the long run.

Readers want to learn more. Here are some extra excerpts from his article:

Philosophers have long argued that there are times when murdering a murderer is not only necessary but noble. "Grecian nations give the honors of the gods to those men who have slain tyrants," wrote Cicero. Targeting Saddam also seems in accord with the "just war" principles first developed by Augustine and Aquinas. We've exhausted other efforts to stop him, and killing him certainly seems more proportionate to his crimes and discriminate in its effect than massive bombing raids that will inevitably kill innocent civilians. To those who argue that assassination is the moral equivalent of terrorism, Michael Walzer's "Just and Unjust Wars" reminds us that "randomness is the crucial feature of terrorist activity." Terrorists kill the innocent to coerce the powerful. Assassination, by contrast, is the least random act of war. Relaxing the moral norm against it is a regrettable but justifiable price to pay when confronted with someone like Saddam who is unique in his capacity to inflict evil on his own people and the rest of the world. It's one of the extremely rare circumstances where killing can be a humanitarian act that saves far more lives than it risks....

....Overcoming the practical difficulties is much more problematic. Experts like former CIA director Robert Gates have said that assassination is a "non-option" because Saddam is so elusive and well protected. That's the strongest argument against assassination. But it loses some force when stacked against the alternatives: an indefinite extension of the sanctions that punishes the most vulnerable Iraqis without weakening Saddam or eliminating his ability to build weapons of mass destruction; or a massive military campaign that will crack the gulf-war coalition, risk allied troops and kill innocent Iraqis without ensuring Saddam's fall.

And here's the last line:

A misreading of the law or misplaced moral squeamishness should not stop the president from talking about assassination. He should order up the options and see if it's possible. If we can kill Saddam, we should.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_08_21_corner-archive.asp[/url]

So, sooooooooo many things come into my mind about this.
1)I wonder in which part of the liberal edict says "thou shalt kill thy political enemies"

2) Why should a democratically-elected leader be assassinated? Especially one who is very popular. Clinton, the first balck President, should've known before bringing him on board as a policymaker.

3)The US really has a great of history of replacing democratically-elected leaders with handpicked dictators. We should definitely try it again.

4)Once again, liberal tolerance. How does Stephanopoulos get to call himself a tolerant liberal and how many people are retarded enough to think this scumbag is actually tolerant? :yes:

DeanPatsFan · 08-24-2005, 11:46 AM

Hmmm....

glennobr????

JetFan16???

Curtisthegreat????

Anyone????

The silence is deafening.............. :D :D

bitonti · 08-24-2005, 11:48 AM

i agree with both Stephanopolis and Robertson. The US should become leaner and meaner. Fighting terrorism with infantry is like trying to kill flies with a bazooka.

4th&Long · 08-24-2005, 11:50 AM

Hey bit, How you been? Do you sleep well at night knowing you agree with anything about Pat Robertson? LOL! :)

AlbanyJet · 08-24-2005, 11:50 AM

Weird.

Robertson is a Reverend.

Stephanopolous' father was a Greek Priest.

bitonti · 08-24-2005, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=4th&Long]Hey bit, How you been? Do you sleep well at night knowing you agree with anything about Pat Robertson? LOL! :)[/QUOTE]

as they say, politics makes strange bedfellows :D

sackdance · 08-24-2005, 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti]i agree with both Stephanopolis and Robertson. The US should become leaner and meaner. Fighting terrorism with infantry is like trying to kill flies with a bazooka.[/QUOTE]
Well, you're off the JI hotseat for that issue and I'm inclined to agree with you here, too, except the infantry isn't there to pick off individual snipers. We're there to send the message of "enough!" to their sponsors and introduce an alternative to the Arab masses, who've known nothing but absolute leaders since, well, forever. Not an easy task, but hardly impossible.

As for the others... will we see a hearty denouncing of George Steph? Nah. Don't even bother guys, no one cares. Keep up the leftwerk noize, though, it makes perfect sense - :zzz:

08-24-2005, 11:17 AM	#1
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	George Stephanopoulos calls for assassination of Hussien [QUOTE]Pat Robertson? No....George Stephanopoulos, in the December 1, 1997 Newsweek, explaining why Bill Clinton should have Saddam Hussein offed: But what's unlawful -- and unpopular with the allies -- is not necessarily immoral. So now that I'm not in the White House, I can say what I couldn't say then: we should seriously explore the assassination option. Even though the current crisis may be subsiding temporarily, we don't know what the future holds. A direct attack on Saddam would no doubt be politically risky -- the president, concerned about his place in history, would be torn between the desire to get rid of a bully and the worry that an assassination plan gone awry would embarrass him late in his term. But the president should think about it: the gulf-war coalition is teetering and we have not eliminated Saddam's capacity to inflict mass destruction. That's why killing him may be the more sensible -- and moral -- course over the long run. Readers want to learn more. Here are some extra excerpts from his article: Philosophers have long argued that there are times when murdering a murderer is not only necessary but noble. "Grecian nations give the honors of the gods to those men who have slain tyrants," wrote Cicero. Targeting Saddam also seems in accord with the "just war" principles first developed by Augustine and Aquinas. We've exhausted other efforts to stop him, and killing him certainly seems more proportionate to his crimes and discriminate in its effect than massive bombing raids that will inevitably kill innocent civilians. To those who argue that assassination is the moral equivalent of terrorism, Michael Walzer's "Just and Unjust Wars" reminds us that "randomness is the crucial feature of terrorist activity." Terrorists kill the innocent to coerce the powerful. Assassination, by contrast, is the least random act of war. Relaxing the moral norm against it is a regrettable but justifiable price to pay when confronted with someone like Saddam who is unique in his capacity to inflict evil on his own people and the rest of the world. It's one of the extremely rare circumstances where killing can be a humanitarian act that saves far more lives than it risks.... ....Overcoming the practical difficulties is much more problematic. Experts like former CIA director Robert Gates have said that assassination is a "non-option" because Saddam is so elusive and well protected. That's the strongest argument against assassination. But it loses some force when stacked against the alternatives: an indefinite extension of the sanctions that punishes the most vulnerable Iraqis without weakening Saddam or eliminating his ability to build weapons of mass destruction; or a massive military campaign that will crack the gulf-war coalition, risk allied troops and kill innocent Iraqis without ensuring Saddam's fall. And here's the last line: A misreading of the law or misplaced moral squeamishness should not stop the president from talking about assassination. He should order up the options and see if it's possible. If we can kill Saddam, we should.[/QUOTE] [url]http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_08_21_corner-archive.asp[/url] So, sooooooooo many things come into my mind about this. 1)I wonder in which part of the liberal edict says "thou shalt kill thy political enemies" 2) Why should a democratically-elected leader be assassinated? Especially one who is very popular. Clinton, the first balck President, should've known before bringing him on board as a policymaker. 3)The US really has a great of history of replacing democratically-elected leaders with handpicked dictators. We should definitely try it again. 4)Once again, liberal tolerance. How does Stephanopoulos get to call himself a tolerant liberal and how many people are retarded enough to think this scumbag is actually tolerant? :yes: Last edited by Come Back to NY; 08-24-2005 at 11:20 AM.

08-24-2005, 11:46 AM	#2
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,141	Hmmm.... glennobr???? JetFan16??? Curtisthegreat???? Anyone???? The silence is deafening.............. :D :D

08-24-2005, 11:48 AM	#3
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	i agree with both Stephanopolis and Robertson. The US should become leaner and meaner. Fighting terrorism with infantry is like trying to kill flies with a bazooka.

08-24-2005, 11:50 AM	#4
4th&Long All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 574	Hey bit, How you been? Do you sleep well at night knowing you agree with anything about Pat Robertson? LOL! :)

08-24-2005, 11:50 AM	#5
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,633	Weird. Robertson is a Reverend. Stephanopolous' father was a Greek Priest.

08-24-2005, 11:51 AM	#6
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=4th&Long]Hey bit, How you been? Do you sleep well at night knowing you agree with anything about Pat Robertson? LOL! :)[/QUOTE] as they say, politics makes strange bedfellows :D

08-24-2005, 12:15 PM	#7
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,887	[QUOTE=bitonti]i agree with both Stephanopolis and Robertson. The US should become leaner and meaner. Fighting terrorism with infantry is like trying to kill flies with a bazooka.[/QUOTE] Well, you're off the JI hotseat for that issue and I'm inclined to agree with you here, too, except the infantry isn't there to pick off individual snipers. We're there to send the message of "enough!" to their sponsors and introduce an alternative to the Arab masses, who've known nothing but absolute leaders since, well, forever. Not an easy task, but hardly impossible. As for the others... will we see a hearty denouncing of George Steph? Nah. Don't even bother guys, no one cares. Keep up the leftwerk noize, though, it makes perfect sense - :zzz: