Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts

Come Back to NY · 09-08-2005, 11:39 PM

[B]Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts
Aid organization never got into New Orleans, officials say[/B]

Thursday, September 8, 2005; Posted: 11:20 p.m. EDT (03:20 GMT)

BATON ROUGE, Louisiana (CNN) -- Louisiana officials rebuffed American Red Cross requests to enter New Orleans with relief supplies last week because of concerns over logistical difficulties, Red Cross and state officials said Thursday.

The Red Cross never launched its relief effort in the city.

The national president of the American Red Cross, Marsha Evans, first made the request to undertake the operation during a visit to the state on September 1, three days after Hurricane Katrina struck, a local Red Cross chapter official said.

Vic Howell, chief executive officer of the agency's Louisiana Capital Area Chapter, said he renewed that request the next day to Col. Jay Mayeaux, the deputy director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

"We had adequate supplies, the people and the vehicles," Howell said at a news conference in Baton Rouge. "It was the middle of a military rescue operation trying to save lives. We were asked not to go in, and we abided by that recommendation."

Mayeaux, appearing at the news conference with Howell, said he had asked the Red Cross to wait 24 hours for conditions to be "set" for the operation.

"To set up a feeding station to feed a large number of people, you need space. You need to escort the personnel into position. ... And we asked Mr. Howell, and he concurred, to wait 24 hours to go to set that in," Mayeaux said.

By Saturday, however, the point became moot because the large-scale evacuation of the city was under way, Howell and Mayeaux said.

"After that point in time ... their rescue operation was in full force, and they felt they had adequate supplies there to take care of it without (the Red Cross) being introduced into the situation," Howell said. "So we did not go directly into New Orleans."

The National Guard began moving large quantities of food, water and ice into New Orleans and other damaged areas of southeast Louisiana on Wednesday, two days after the hurricane struck and a day before the Red Cross made its request to go in, Mayeaux said.

The supplies were being delivered from Camp Beauregard, a National Guard base near Alexandria, 150 miles away, in the central part of the state.

So far, 16.4 million pounds of ice, 14.2 million quarts of water and 7.9 million ready-to-eat meals have been distributed, Mayeaux said.

In addition, food and water had also been stored before the storm at the Louisiana Superdome and other shelters, Mayeaux said. He added that guard troops also brought supplies.

Mayeaux said that state officials did "push" supplies into the distribution pipeline before requests were made and did not wait for local officials to request them.

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.redcross/index.html[/url]

As I originally stated [URL=http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showpost.php?p=866448&postcount=8]here[/URL]..they are calling it "logistical difficulties" but mark my words- over the next few days you will here RC people who were on the grown say they were specifically kept away from the convention center and Superdome because La. officials wanted people out of the area....the rats started this blame game using their moutpieces in the MSM and their radical bloggers and it is now going to bite them in the a$$.

quantum · 09-09-2005, 09:36 AM

Translation: we have a witch hunt going against Bush right now, and you (ARC) coming in and helping will siphon off some effectiveness. We're not sure the people dying were real Democrats anyway.

(Taken from a top secret part of moveon.org)

jetswin · 09-09-2005, 11:07 AM

Where did my $1000.00 go?

Come Back to NY · 09-09-2005, 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=jetswin]Where did my $1000.00 go?[/QUOTE]

It's presently in the form of bottled water sitting stagnant on trucks in NO which are not allowed to deliver it to the hurricane victims since Blanco wanted them out of the city but Nagin wouldn't call for a mandatory evacuation because he was afraid of being sued and then he couldn't find the keys to the hundreds of buses which could've moved people from the Superdome but now can't do so because they are under five feet of water.....

bitonti · 09-09-2005, 11:17 AM

so you all think the Red Cross should have been allowed to run around what essentially amounted to a war zone at the time? You don't send relief into an unstable situation.

It's like hey yeah go on in, I hope you don't get shot!

As a general comment I wouldn't give a brass nickel to the red cross. As new yorkers we should all remember how they collected a ton of money for 9-11 and actually had to be sued to disperse the funds. They are crooks.

jetswin · 09-09-2005, 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti]so you all think the Red Cross should have been allowed to run around what essentially amounted to a war zone at the time? You don't send relief into an unstable situation.

It's like hey yeah go on in, I hope you don't get shot!

As a general comment I wouldn't give a brass nickel to the red cross. As new yorkers we should all remember how they collected a ton of money for 9-11 and actually had to be sued to disperse the funds. They are crooks.[/QUOTE]
Bit, do you see the irony of your first sentence?

After 9/11 I sent donations directly to the families, and orphan charities, you are correct about the Red Cross on 9/11, they did not do the right thing with the money. There were other options after 9/11, this disaster was basically donate to the Red Cross, or roll the dice.

bitonti · 09-09-2005, 11:27 AM

it's one thing to send relief into a disaster that has stablized it's another thing to send it into pure war zone chaos. That 24 hour period was the difference between the streets being controlled by thugs and the streets being controlled by the national guard.

also I am not blaming the people who donate but cmon Elliot Spitzer practically had to sanction the Red Cross to get them to release the 500 million they were sitting on. People's intentions are great but the reality is we don't know that all the money donated to the REd Cross is going to help Americans in New Orleans. 2/3 of the LIberty fund didn't go to victims it went to building up the red cross.

Rush, Oreilly even Oprah were publically outraged by the red cross in 9-11 i don't know why people trust an organization that hasn't proven they deserve this trust.

[url]http://www.snopes.com/rumors/charity.htm[/url]

09-08-2005, 11:39 PM	#1
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts [B]Red Cross: State rebuffed relief efforts Aid organization never got into New Orleans, officials say[/B] Thursday, September 8, 2005; Posted: 11:20 p.m. EDT (03:20 GMT) BATON ROUGE, Louisiana (CNN) -- Louisiana officials rebuffed American Red Cross requests to enter New Orleans with relief supplies last week because of concerns over logistical difficulties, Red Cross and state officials said Thursday. The Red Cross never launched its relief effort in the city. The national president of the American Red Cross, Marsha Evans, first made the request to undertake the operation during a visit to the state on September 1, three days after Hurricane Katrina struck, a local Red Cross chapter official said. Vic Howell, chief executive officer of the agency's Louisiana Capital Area Chapter, said he renewed that request the next day to Col. Jay Mayeaux, the deputy director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. "We had adequate supplies, the people and the vehicles," Howell said at a news conference in Baton Rouge. "It was the middle of a military rescue operation trying to save lives. We were asked not to go in, and we abided by that recommendation." Mayeaux, appearing at the news conference with Howell, said he had asked the Red Cross to wait 24 hours for conditions to be "set" for the operation. "To set up a feeding station to feed a large number of people, you need space. You need to escort the personnel into position. ... And we asked Mr. Howell, and he concurred, to wait 24 hours to go to set that in," Mayeaux said. By Saturday, however, the point became moot because the large-scale evacuation of the city was under way, Howell and Mayeaux said. "After that point in time ... their rescue operation was in full force, and they felt they had adequate supplies there to take care of it without (the Red Cross) being introduced into the situation," Howell said. "So we did not go directly into New Orleans." The National Guard began moving large quantities of food, water and ice into New Orleans and other damaged areas of southeast Louisiana on Wednesday, two days after the hurricane struck and a day before the Red Cross made its request to go in, Mayeaux said. The supplies were being delivered from Camp Beauregard, a National Guard base near Alexandria, 150 miles away, in the central part of the state. So far, 16.4 million pounds of ice, 14.2 million quarts of water and 7.9 million ready-to-eat meals have been distributed, Mayeaux said. In addition, food and water had also been stored before the storm at the Louisiana Superdome and other shelters, Mayeaux said. He added that guard troops also brought supplies. Mayeaux said that state officials did "push" supplies into the distribution pipeline before requests were made and did not wait for local officials to request them. [url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.redcross/index.html[/url] As I originally stated [URL=http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showpost.php?p=866448&postcount=8]here[/URL]..they are calling it "logistical difficulties" but mark my words- over the next few days you will here RC people who were on the grown say they were specifically kept away from the convention center and Superdome because La. officials wanted people out of the area....the rats started this blame game using their moutpieces in the MSM and their radical bloggers and it is now going to bite them in the a$$.

09-09-2005, 09:36 AM	#2
quantum GFY Snatchez! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI Posts: 17,877	Translation: we have a witch hunt going against Bush right now, and you (ARC) coming in and helping will siphon off some effectiveness. We're not sure the people dying were real Democrats anyway. (Taken from a top secret part of moveon.org)

09-09-2005, 11:07 AM	#3
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,458	Where did my $1000.00 go?

09-09-2005, 11:13 AM	#4
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=jetswin]Where did my $1000.00 go?[/QUOTE] It's presently in the form of bottled water sitting stagnant on trucks in NO which are not allowed to deliver it to the hurricane victims since Blanco wanted them out of the city but Nagin wouldn't call for a mandatory evacuation because he was afraid of being sued and then he couldn't find the keys to the hundreds of buses which could've moved people from the Superdome but now can't do so because they are under five feet of water.....

09-09-2005, 11:17 AM	#5
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	so you all think the Red Cross should have been allowed to run around what essentially amounted to a war zone at the time? You don't send relief into an unstable situation. It's like hey yeah go on in, I hope you don't get shot! As a general comment I wouldn't give a brass nickel to the red cross. As new yorkers we should all remember how they collected a ton of money for 9-11 and actually had to be sued to disperse the funds. They are crooks.

09-09-2005, 11:20 AM	#6
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,458	[QUOTE=bitonti]so you all think the Red Cross should have been allowed to run around what essentially amounted to a war zone at the time? You don't send relief into an unstable situation. It's like hey yeah go on in, I hope you don't get shot! As a general comment I wouldn't give a brass nickel to the red cross. As new yorkers we should all remember how they collected a ton of money for 9-11 and actually had to be sued to disperse the funds. They are crooks.[/QUOTE] Bit, do you see the irony of your first sentence? After 9/11 I sent donations directly to the families, and orphan charities, you are correct about the Red Cross on 9/11, they did not do the right thing with the money. There were other options after 9/11, this disaster was basically donate to the Red Cross, or roll the dice.

09-09-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	it's one thing to send relief into a disaster that has stablized it's another thing to send it into pure war zone chaos. That 24 hour period was the difference between the streets being controlled by thugs and the streets being controlled by the national guard. also I am not blaming the people who donate but cmon Elliot Spitzer practically had to sanction the Red Cross to get them to release the 500 million they were sitting on. People's intentions are great but the reality is we don't know that all the money donated to the REd Cross is going to help Americans in New Orleans. 2/3 of the LIberty fund didn't go to victims it went to building up the red cross. Rush, Oreilly even Oprah were publically outraged by the red cross in 9-11 i don't know why people trust an organization that hasn't proven they deserve this trust. [url]http://www.snopes.com/rumors/charity.htm[/url]