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    fix the yanks!

    just a quick sidebar from the JETS...how to fix these yanks.

    one man's opinion...

    1. sign bj ryan-- we need a good lefty in the pen BAD and he can spell rivera to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

    2. Trade for torri hunter- the season would have been drastically different if we had a good cf

    3. Rotation- johnson, mussina, chacon, wang, small- trade pavano and wright (for a bag of balls)

    4. keep torre and cashman

    5. sign a backup catcher who can contribute...

    this is all realistic and would have a HUGE impact!!

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    I'm not from New York, but I always thought people were

    a) Giants/Yankees fans

    or

    b) Jets/Mets fans

    No??


    I think it's the 'Stros year. That was a freakin marathon game. I feel sorry for the Braves, though.

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    STEP 1: Pay a gazillion dolars to any free agents out there so you feel as if you've dome something.

    STEP 2: Theres is no step 2.

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    If you really want to fix the Yanks in 1 year there payroll will be 350 million

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    Beltran makes that catch 10 times out of 10... ohh yeahthe mets also have another center fielder tht would have made that catch 10 out of 10 times ... you want him?? it will cost yah

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    STEP 1: Pay a gazillion dolars to any free agents out there so you feel as if you've dome something.

    STEP 2: Theres is no step 2.
    Im sorry we took the east from you guys after you had all season to gloat. After the Bill Buckner play happened again this year, red sox fan do you think it will be another 86 years?

    Atleast you guys will always have last year as the one year and one memory of EVER beating us.

    Btw, the red sox pay is the second in baseball and they lost the Al east and got Swept in a matter of two weeks, How are guys doing in boston?

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    who would want to fix the yankees its so much more fun when they suck, who here is honestly not looking forward to steinbrenners fury in the next few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAntonio_JetFan
    I'm not from New York, but I always thought people were

    a) Giants/Yankees fans

    or

    b) Jets/Mets fans

    No??


    I think it's the 'Stros year. That was a freakin marathon game. I feel sorry for the Braves, though.

    I like you thought that most Jets fans were Mets fans and most Giants fans were Yankee fans. But as it was explained to me...lot of the Jets/Yanks fans go back before 1962 and the creation of the Mets. Really had nothing to do with the Jets playing at Shea and the Giants playing at Yankee stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikehitstina
    Im sorry we took the east from you guys after you had all season to gloat. After the Bill Buckner play happened again this year, red sox fan do you think it will be another 86 years?

    Atleast you guys will always have last year as the one year and one memory of EVER beating us.

    Btw, the red sox pay is the second in baseball and they lost the Al east and got Swept in a matter of two weeks, How are guys doing in boston?

    Yanks havent won a WS in this CENTURY! Sox are doing fine remembering the BIGGEST CHOKE IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS!!!

    bbbwwwaahhhhhhh!!!!

    The curse of A-Fraud!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxboroFanatic2
    Yanks havent won a WS in this CENTURY! Sox are doing fine remembering the BIGGEST CHOKE IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS!!!

    bbbwwwaahhhhhhh!!!!

    The curse of A-Fraud!!!!!
    Ummm...Yanks beat the Mets in the 2000 World Series.......

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    you what i find really weird....as great as Arod is he just has a bad effect on teams, mariners and rangers both improved without him and did nothing with him. with that said id take him on the mets in a second. man i can only dream david wright and him in the middle of the lineup

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJet
    Ummm...Yanks beat the Mets in the 2000 World Series.......
    not part of this century

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockeJET
    If you really want to fix the Yanks in 1 year there payroll will be 350 million
    We have over $40 million coming off the books.

    Let me ask a legit question. Why do people want to keep Joe Torre? Is it because of his masterful in-game managing? Like his hit and run with a rookie on the mound, therefore risking losing a baserunner and an out when the rookie pitcher had no control to begin with. Like him F*CKING FORGETTING to pinchrun for Sheffield in the 9th inning with Womack? He remembered after 2 pitches were thrown! Did someone have to f*cking remind him? Did someone have to wake him up from his daily 3 hour nap to remind him to pinchrun? To remind him this is why we have Womack on the postseason roster? This guy gets paid a lot of money and he FORGETS TO PINCHRUN!!!!!!!!!!! And, this is not the first time that exact thing has happened this season. It's not the second either. It was the third, yes the third time, that Torre literally forgot to pinchrun. He also has no idea how to manage a bullpen, killing Quantrill and Gordon arms last year, and Sturtze's arm this year. He would have killed Gordon's too, but Gordon twice complained of a dead arm. Good job Joe.

    The fact is, Joe's best quality is to keep the pressure of New York and George off the players. His laid back quality seems to help out the players. Well, for the last 2 postseasons that quality has done nothing, as our guys have played tightly. So, his one quality is no longer a quality, making him useless. Joe may be a good guy, but he is a lackluster manager. There is a reason he was thought of as Clueless before he was given the keys to the best team in baseball.

    My offseason plan is as follows, in order of importance.

    1. Sign Jacque Jones to play CF. He can catch the ball and is not a hole in the lineup. A 2 year deal should get it done.

    2. Sign BJ Ryan.

    3. Offer Tom Gordon arbitration. If he accepts, then he comes back, if he doesn't, then we let him go, getting the first round pick. We then go out and sign Kyle Farnsworth.

    4. Find out if Pavano wants to be here. If he doesn't, trade Mrs. Pavano for a prospect or two. Then, check out the pitching market. Daisuke Matsuzaka of Japan is a very interesting idea, as he is young and has got great stuff. Kevin Millwood is out there. Jarrod Washburn is an option.

    5. There is no point in trying to trade Jaret Wright. He's ours.

    Our rotation will be:
    RJ
    Chacon
    Wang
    Moose
    Pavano/Matsuzaka/Washburn

    6. See what the market is like for Aaron Small. If someone is willing to give him more than a year and a spot in the starting position, then we can't re-sign him. He can stay here and be in our bullpen. The fact is that although he was successful for us, his success will never hold up.

    7. Sign Al Leiter to be our lefty specialist.

    Bullpen:
    Mo
    BJ Ryan
    Gordon/Farnsworth
    Leiter
    Jaret Wright
    Small/Sturtze

    8. Offer Brian Giles a 2 year deal with an option with a 3rd. Then, we make Sheff our everyday DH.

    Lineup:
    Jeter
    Giles
    A-Rod
    Giambi (1B)
    Sheff
    Matsui
    Cano
    Posada
    Jacque Jones

    9. Fix up the bench. Sign a first baseman not named Tino Martinez. Maybe a Travis Lee of a John Olerud to backup Giambi.

    10. We're most likely stuck with Womack so he's our pinchrunner.

    11. Sign Todd Pratt to backup Jorge.

    12. Re-sign Mark Bellhorn in the utility role if he would accept that role.

    13. Either re-sign Ruben or some sort of pretty good pinchhitter.

    Bench:
    Lee/Olerud
    Womack
    Pratt
    Bellhorn
    Pinchhittter type. Not sure about Ruben.

    And there's your 25 man roster. By the way, this team will be cheaper than the 2005 Yankees.

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    theres not a whole lot we can do but we have to fix some obvious problems. We need a centerfielder obviously. If we can trade sheffeild for maybe mike cameron or somehow pry torri hunter fromt he twins without giving up wang or cano i would def do it. I dont think twins want sheff so maybe duncan and someone else who knows what they want. one trade that interests me is sheff for manny. manny atleast doesnt choke in the playoffs. If we can trade mussina or pavano i would do it if we can some pitching prspects back. So my plan is to do these things,yes it will take some money but atleast it wont be just a bunch of prima donnas.
    1. Trade sheff for manny even up.
    2.Resign Matsui
    3.see if twins bite if we offer duncan and henn for torri hunter,well even trhow in womack and pay for his salary.
    4.Sign BJ Ryan,scott sauerbeck,And bring up colter bean.
    5.Trade mussina for some pithing prospects.
    6.Sign a 1b like jt snow or travis lee who can defend.
    Sign some bats and defense off bench.Maybe even sign bill meuller to play 1b.
    So this would be your 2006 yankee team.
    sp-R johnson
    sp-chacon
    sp-wang
    sp-pavano
    sp-wright
    rp-small
    rp-saurbeck
    rp-bean
    rp-sturtze
    rp-ryan
    rp-rivera

    1b-Snow
    2b-cano
    ss-jeter
    3b-arod
    lf-matsui
    cf-hunter
    rf-manny
    c-posoda
    dh-giambi
    bench-miguel cairo,ruben or eduardo perez,,todd pratt,bubba crosby,damian jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by brol79
    theres not a whole lot we can do but we have to fix some obvious problems. We need a centerfielder obviously. If we can trade sheffeild for maybe mike cameron or somehow pry torri hunter fromt he twins without giving up wang or cano i would def do it. I dont think twins want sheff so maybe duncan and someone else who knows what they want. one trade that interests me is sheff for manny. manny atleast doesnt choke in the playoffs. If we can trade mussina or pavano i would do it if we can some pitching prspects back. So my plan is to do these things,yes it will take some money but atleast it wont be just a bunch of prima donnas.
    1. Trade sheff for manny even up.
    2.Resign Matsui
    3.see if twins bite if we offer duncan and henn for torri hunter,well even trhow in womack and pay for his salary.
    Why the hell would you trade Sheffield for Manny straight up? That's a horrendous deal. Sheffield is as productive as Manny and plays much better defense. In fact, Sheffield, one could argue, is more productive offensively than Manny. Add into the fact that you want to trade a guy in the last year of his contract at reasonable dollars for a guy that has a few more years on his contract at $20 million per year, your just crazy. Manny also declined this year and as the years pass by, will continue to decline.

    Also, trading away Eric Duncan is ludicrous. He's a top level prospect and trading away our prospects is the exact opposite of what this team needs to do. The team needs to rebuild the farm, not dismantle it.

    Lastly, Moose is untradeable, not to mention he has a no-trade clause. You can trade Pavano and cash and get a couple prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    Why the hell would you trade Sheffield for Manny straight up? That's a horrendous deal. Sheffield is as productive as Manny and plays much better defense. In fact, Sheffield, one could argue, is more productive offensively than Manny.
    hahahahahhahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    Why the hell would you trade Sheffield for Manny straight up? That's a horrendous deal. Sheffield is as productive as Manny and plays much better defense. In fact, Sheffield, one could argue, is more productive offensively than Manny. Add into the fact that you want to trade a guy in the last year of his contract at reasonable dollars for a guy that has a few more years on his contract at $20 million per year, your just crazy. Manny also declined this year and as the years pass by, will continue to decline.

    Also, trading away Eric Duncan is ludicrous. He's a top level prospect and trading away our prospects is the exact opposite of what this team needs to do. The team needs to rebuild the farm, not dismantle it.

    Lastly, Moose is untradeable, not to mention he has a no-trade clause. You can trade Pavano and cash and get a couple prospects.

    What are we keepinh duncan for the guy strikes out way too much and we have no need for the guy.This guy is not going to be good we gotta trade duncan before we find this out for ourselves. Sheff chokes in the playoffs. Manny was a world series mvp which shows me he shows up in the biggest games. Yes manny doesnt play great def but shff is bad as well. So thats why i would trade sheff a choke artist for possibly the best rbi man in all of baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brol79
    What are we keepinh duncan for the guy strikes out way too much and we have no need for the guy.This guy is not going to be good we gotta trade duncan before we find this out for ourselves. Sheff chokes in the playoffs. Manny was a world series mvp which shows me he shows up in the biggest games. Yes manny doesnt play great def but shff is bad as well. So thats why i would trade sheff a choke artist for possibly the best rbi man in all of baseball.
    We have no need for Eric Duncan? He just moved to 1B by the way, which is good because it shows the Yankees have no intention of trading him. Eric Duncan is a top notch prospect and if you think that Duncan will not be good based on the fact that he has a low batting average and he stirkes out too much then you don't know how to judge prospects. Especially when you consider that he was the youngest player in the league. The fact that he takes walks and has the power he does at this age is a great sign.

    So we are going to be stuck with the end of a longterm contract by trading for Manny? Not only the end of a longterm contract, but a really big contract. Gee, that's a great idea.

    Sheff's defense is bad, but not as bad as Manny's. So now Sheff is a choke artist? You are a complete joke. The guy is one of the best clutch hitters in baseball. Jesus Christ, some people have really short memories. Do you remember the 2004 season? Do you remember how many huge HR's he had? Do you remember his 1997 postseason? He's a choke artist because he had 5 bad games? Wow, I'm speechless by some Yankee fans. By the way, Sheff was one of the few Yankees that had a very good offensive 2004 ALCS. Manny had a great 4 games so he is a big game player? Jesus Christ, look at the sample sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBound
    hahahahahhahahah
    Great response. Manny created 6 more runs than Sheff did this year. Not all that many. Sheff's BA/RISP is why it is arguable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    Great response. Manny created 6 more runs than Sheff did this year. Not all that many. Sheff's BA/RISP is why it is arguable.
    Hmm check the stats. Sheff didnt do anything in the last 4 games of the 2004 alcs and this years postseason. I like sheff as much qas anyone but he just doesnt do in the postseason. Just becuase your hate for the redson wont allow you too see that manny is a much better hitter. it doesnt matter what gary did in 97. What has sheff done recently in the playoffs to tell me hes going to help bring us home a world series. Hes proven alot to me in the regular season,but in ny we dont care about the regular season as much. The playoffs are where legends are born here. This will be evident when arod the mvp is embarrassed to have the award and most likely booed out of the stadium. we need to shake this team up and getting sheff outta here is a start. You cannot just make it seem that you can come here and not do squat in the playoffs and everything will be alright.

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