Sackdance, politics are politics, and when your policies are even a rousing success there will be opposition from the opposite party. I don't understand why Republicans are so pissed, its clear to everyone that what the Democrats are doing right now is too little too late. Its merely politics. Just don't let them bait you into an arguement because they issue is already decided.Correction: The Bush administration shouldn't have to be spending their time defending the decision to go to war - the bipartisan support was based on bipartisan intelligence.
Listen, I'm 19 and not in the white house, so I can't sit here and lay a comprehensive strategy involving all the branches of the military. But from what I see right now, Free-Iraqi Leaders are being assasinated, local tribal war lords are running the day to day in Iraq when the Americans leave to go on to the next town. We're taking a half assed approach.Carl - which strategy would you change? And to what?
Aren't we winning? Iraq has a constitution, elections. Its not perfect, but then what is?
I'm going to take a guess how you'll answer and ask this: who do you think has it better - the people of Iraq or North Korea?
We have to take control of the country in order to give it back to the Iraqis in good shape. We need marshall law and curfews with more American troops on the ground there so we can expedite the process and maintain order while we help the Iraqis install their government. Nobody benefits from Chaos.
See but this is merely my opinon on what we should do, though wouldn't you agree that how we're fighting the war now isn't working?
I don't believe you ditch a war because its not being fought well, but you do have to change your strategy.
Jets5ever, you are right but I think you are mad for the wrong reasons. Its not the democrats who are doing this, its politics. This is how American Politics work. Its disgusting but its reality. The issues are rarely talked about by candidates, its more of a "This is what you did wrong, and I have 20/20 hindsight to look at your decision and say I would've done this instead".No, this is wrong. The critics' arguments do not come from principle, but from politics. This statement above is based on a flawed assumption.
The Democrats are making attacks against Bush's character. I agree, it is one thing to criticise the prosecution of the war and the mistakes made therein, it is QUITE ANOTHER thing to accuse Bush of lying to begin the war. Bush should defend himself from such slurs and yes, the GOP is 100% correct to lambast the Democrats for their shameful, indefensible slurs. They are the ones lying, not Bush. These Democrats mostly voted for the war and ostensibly want to win it, yet by lying about and slandering Bush for lying to start the war, they undermine it completely and make success more difficult. Bluntly, they care more about damaging Bush politically than winning the war that they voted for. This is horrible and is yet another clear indiciation to me that I can never vote for a Democrat nationally, not ever. They are children, not leaders.
Your assumption that the critics would be silenced if we start winning the war is naive and not grounded in reality. I am also unpersuaded that we are "losing" the war presently, but that is a whole 'nother thread entirely. The critics lack the integrity necessary to be that honest, period.
Both sides are guilty of this. When the war started, if you differed in opinion, many staunch conservatives were taking harsh shots at those who voted against the war saying they were "unpatriotic, not true Americans". These people simply disagreed, what are country was founded on and you have people calling them unAmerican for simply doing something wholly American which is to question the government.
Its politics, and its ugly, just don't let them draw you in, just sit back and think about the issues.
Yes, but even many democrats are laughing at how their party simply having a temper tantrum that should have been an outrage 3 years ago. Jon Stewart made jokes saying "Where were you in 2002?"I too like McCain for a number of reasons- the problem is the same people condeming the war now are those who voted for it three years ago....
Its only the guys in office trying to play to public opinon.