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    Metropolitans: 28-18; 4 game lead

    Overall, this Mets fan is giddy.

    This team is tough, and they are hard-headed. They keep playing despite the score, not a trait of the Art Howe era (Remember him)?

    Wright and Reyes are playing well, as are LoDuca, Nady and Delgado.

    The pitching has been solid, but ominous signs are out there..Starters 3-5 are a question mark. C'mon Trachsel, step up!

    It's time that we start talking Willie up for Manager of the Year!

    Let's Go Mets!

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    Just look at my avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    Overall, this Mets fan is giddy.

    This team is tough, and they are hard-headed. They keep playing despite the score, not a trait of the Art Howe era (Remember him)?

    Wright and Reyes are playing well, as are LoDuca, Nady and Delgado.

    The pitching has been solid, but ominous signs are out there..Starters 3-5 are a question mark. C'mon Trachsel, step up!

    It's time that we start talking Willie up for Manager of the Year!

    Let's Go Mets!
    well williw for manager of the year is a little premature. especially with the tigers playing so well.

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    We are winning in spite of Willie not because of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    We are winning in spite of Willie not because of him.
    splain.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    splain.....
    He is not a good in-game manager at all.

    See today, not PH for Kaz MAtsui with the game on the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    He is not a good in-game manager at all.

    See today, not PH for Kaz MAtsui with the game on the line.
    If you disagree with a move here or there, the manager stinks?

    Any problems with the 16 inning game a few nights ago?

    And if Art Howe managed this team, would they be 28-18?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    If you disagree with a move here or there, the manager stinks?

    Any problems with the 16 inning game a few nights ago?

    And if Art Howe managed this team, would they be 28-18?
    Art Howe

    1999 AL West Oakland 52 162 87 75 .537 2
    2000 AL West Oakland 53 161 91 70 .565 1
    2001 AL West Oakland 54 162 102 60 .630 2
    2002 AL West Oakland 55 162 103 59 .636 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Art Howe

    1999 AL West Oakland 52 162 87 75 .537 2
    2000 AL West Oakland 53 161 91 70 .565 1
    2001 AL West Oakland 54 162 102 60 .630 2
    2002 AL West Oakland 55 162 103 59 .636 1
    I'm guessing that 2003 was a mulligan year right?

    Howe couldn't handle the Big Town!

    Give me Randolph. Let's compare Howe's numbers with Randolphs' in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    I'm guessing that 2003 was a mulligan year right?

    Howe couldn't handle the Big Town!

    Give me Randolph. Let's compare Howe's numbers with Randolphs' in 2008.
    Dude players=success, Mulder, Hudson and Zito made Howe look like a genius, and the talent on this team is making Willie look like a genius as well. Willie isn't a great manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Dude players=success, Mulder, Hudson and Zito made Howe look like a genius, and the talent on this team is making Willie look like a genius as well. Willie isn't a great manager.
    If we were to carry out your theory here, if Buddy Bell was managing the Mets, they would be 28-18 or better..You know that's what you're saying.

    What's the real reason behind the 'dis Ikey? Former Yankee, Something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Dude players=success, Mulder, Hudson and Zito made Howe look like a genius, and the talent on this team is making Willie look like a genius as well. Willie isn't a great manager.
    Willie is still learning on the job....And he hides the "deer in the headlights" look well. It was way too evident with Howe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    If we were to carry out your theory here, if Buddy Bell was managing the Mets, they would be 28-18 or better..You know that's what you're saying.

    What's the real reason behind the 'dis Ikey? Former Yankee, Something else?
    Nah, just my opinion, I don't think he is a great manager, but the players love him and he is good with the clubhouse, but he couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.

    http://www.tshirthell.com/firewillie/main.htm

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    Hey Mets fans it's May 25th......Cool your jets.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee_Jet
    Hey Mets fans it's May 25th......Cool your jets.....
    Mets are a good team. It's been a while since we can say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    He is not a good in-game manager at all.

    See today, not PH for Kaz MAtsui with the game on the line.

    I think you misunderstand why Willie did that. It might have cost us this game, but it shows Matsui that Willie has confidence in his and if Matsui got a hit in that situation, that could have broke his slump.

    It might have been the wrong move in the short term, but you can argue that its the right move in the long term.



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    Willi is a horrible manger but everyones knows he just a PUPPET.

    The METS could've hired the best manger in the GAME in Jimmy Leyland. He turned it down cause he didn't want too be a PUPPET to OMER who sets the rotation and lineup all you have too do is check when anybody ask's what the STATUS of any picther and he always says don't know yet its too be determined. But he is the WORST in GAME MANGER EVER THINK HERM in the X'O's department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHiJetMan
    Overall, this Mets fan is giddy.

    It's time that we start talking Willie up for Manager of the Year!

    Let's Go Mets!
    I must say I agree with everything you said except this. Some of his decisions have been very questionable. I am seeing improvement though from last yr to this yr. However manager of the yr at this time is a little to early to crown him yet. He has a Joe Torre type position now which is just sit back and let the players play. With this type of lineup all you have to do is sit back and watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Nah, just my opinion, I don't think he is a great manager, but the players love him and he is good with the clubhouse, but he couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.

    http://www.tshirthell.com/firewillie/main.htm
    ikey, you act like this is football, where in game strategy is everything...in baseball, having the players love you and effectively managing the clubhouse is arguably the most important thing a manager does...you said it yourself, in baseball the players win games, not the managers...he's not a great in game manager, but over the course of a 162 game season you take the guy who makes sure his players are ready to come out and go balls to the wall everyday, particularly for a team as good as this one...a team this good doesnt need a bobby v type strategic manager, it needs a player centric one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadringer
    ikey, you act like this is football, where in game strategy is everything...in baseball, having the players love you and effectively managing the clubhouse is arguably the most important thing a manager does...you said it yourself, in baseball the players win games, not the managers...he's not a great in game manager, but over the course of a 162 game season you take the guy who makes sure his players are ready to come out and go balls to the wall everyday, particularly for a team as good as this one...a team this good doesnt need a bobby v type strategic manager, it needs a player centric one...
    you can't have one that is both?

    I like Willie as a person, but some of his in-game decisions make you scratch your head sometimes. He has too much confidence in his players at times, and very little at other times.

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