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    Congratulations Dems. Now what?

    This should be interesting. While most believe the power struggle will be between Dem lawmakers and the executive branch (especially if the Dems take the Senate), I think the real struggle could be within the dem party for the direction it goes from here. Moderate/faux conservative dem candidates were overwhelmingly responsible for the bloodbath the GOP suffered -- how will they react to the "leadership" of the dem party, which is far left (Pelosi, Reid, Dean, etc.) Also the dems will make a huge mistake if they take this win as anything other than a rebuke to the Bush administration. They did not win on "ideas" or any other platform other than they were not Bush republicans.
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    They did not win on "ideas" or any other platform other than they were not Bush republicans.[/QUOTE]
    Liberals never win on ideas, they can't, because if they ever told the American people what they really believe the democrat party would cease to exist ... so they have to cross-dress as moderates during every election cycle as they seek to fool enough voters, then Govern like leftists if they pull it off ... which has been their playbook for 30 Years

    How will they Govern? ... LIKE LEFTISTS, same as always, cause that's who controls their party

    Do you really think the party leaders {i.e. leftists} are going to surrender power to a few incoming freshman moderates?

    Trust me Shakin, the left didn't fight this hard to regain power so they could hand over the agenda to a few incoming freshman who campaigned as moderates
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    [QUOTE=Green Jets & Ham]Liberals never win on ideas, they can't, because if they ever told the American people what they really believe the democrat party would cease to exist ... so they have to cross-dress as moderates during every election cycle as they seek to fool enough voters, then Govern like leftists if they pull it off ... which has been their playbook for 30 Years

    How will they Govern? ... LIKE LEFTISTS, same as always, cause that's who controls their party

    Do you really think the party leaders {i.e. leftists} are going to surrender power to a few incoming freshman moderates?

    Trust me Shakin, the left didn't fight this hard to regain power so they could hand over the agenda to a few incoming freshman who campaigned as moderates[/QUOTE]


    If they don't they'll see another Republican take the White House in two years.

    While I can't stand the far right, religious conservatives, they'll always prevail against the liberals because the liberal ideology is so out of touch with what most people believe in. The Democratic Party's only hope is in the Moderates.

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    This election was anti-Bush plain and simple. Hopefully Bush will wake up and right the foreign policy ship! Tell the Iraqi leadership this is our time table get your act together or we are gone!

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan]This election was anti-Bush plain and simple. Hopefully Bush will wake up and right the foreign policy ship! Tell the Iraqi leadership this is our time table get your act together or we are gone![/QUOTE]


    Of course it was. Bush made it easy for them. Why push issues and jeopardize your campaign when all you have to do is oppose a screw-up like Bush?

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx]Of course it was. Bush made it easy for them. Why push issues and jeopardize your campaign when all you have to do is oppose a screw-up like Bush?[/QUOTE]

    Bush is the best democrat in the house. Spends like crazy, no plan for the war etc.

    The American people have spoken. The dems will have to come up with a plan for Iraq. I can only see them inplementing a timetable for withdrawal and station some troops in a place out of harms way.

    The dems will tackle some domestic issues like energy, taxes and education (probably at the college level). I can't see them doing too much other than that within a two year period.

    They have their eyes set on the WH now. The repubs lost big time. Losing congress mean that you lose a lot of local power. The dems have routed them. It will take some time for the repubs to recover.

    Politics starts at the local level and the repubs have lost that front. A whole new infrastructure has to be created. Bush is clueless and has no need (lame duck) to run again.

    The repubs had already abandoned him anyway. They will look for a new leader now. The winning of both the House and the Senate means changes to the whole landscape on both sides.

    A lot of resumes will hit the street today from the republican side of things.

    Clearly the election states that the republicans are out of touch with the American people. Way out of touch. I hope that the policy of attacking someones character goes with them.

    America needs to take a more cerebral approach to the issues. We have "stayed the course" too long of sabre rattling. I don't see defense spending getting cut. I see more Homeland dollars going to shore up the ports and airports.

    The repubs really failed in that area. Bush has failed the American public. The defeat last night will not be overcome within two years. Any republican thinking that had better really look at those congressional seats that were lost.

    Long time members lost seats. Change is good though. The policies that were in place have the potential to set America back for years to come. Again a more cerebral approach is necessary and we shall see if the dms can do it.

    The repubs spent a lot of money. And now they nothing to show for it. It will be hard for them to raise the funds as they did in this election. Like in Iraq, a lot of money spent and they did not win.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan]This election was anti-Bush plain and simple. Hopefully Bush will wake up and right the foreign policy ship! Tell the Iraqi leadership this is our time table get your act together or we are gone![/QUOTE]
    I disagree. Although the majority of Americans are upset with the administrations prosecution of the war, I think the Repubs lost because they turned on their conservative base. There's enough conservatives in this country to win these elections, but they have been betrayed by a fiscal liberal. The Bush admin. has
    - refused to secure the border, going so far as to call those who volunteer to stand guard 'vigilantes',
    - increased spending like drunken sailors,
    - increased the national debt to the point where all income tax reciepts for the entire nation go entirely to service the interest on the debt,
    - refused to curb redistribution-of-wealth programs, and even expanded them, giving us the single largest increase in the socialist welfare state since LBJ's 'great society'.

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Clearly the election states that the republicans are out of touch with the American people. Way out of touch. I hope that the policy of attacking someones character goes with them.
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    Actually, it does not state that at all. This was a referendum on Iraq, period. If the Republicans were so "out of touch with the American people," there would not have been so many democrats running as close to the middle as they could get with a straight face. Your interpretation of this election is the HUGE mistake democrats can make right now -- believing that they won because of their ideas.

    And the policy of attacking someone's character is not going anywhere as long as the likes of Dean and Reid hold leadership positions.

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    Now what? Plan on taking the White House, of course. Democrats spend all of their energy on attaining power. Once they get it, they are too tired to do anything constructive.

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    Time to pay the piper now.

    The scapegoat is dead. The dems have all the answers, so now instead of griping, it's time to roll up their sleeves and fix all of America and the worlds "problems" in a bi-partisan manner.

    We should expect the economy to really roar now -- the value of the dollar to be at it's highest, our debt to be at it's lowest.

    Keep jihadists off our backs while admitting "defeat" in iraq and moving the troops to okinawa. We should all be happy -- 100 days from January 2007, I expect osama bin laden in US custody and the end of terrorism.

    I will expect securer borders.

    As a middle class American, I can expect a better life -- lower taxes, a bigger paycheck, job security, free healthcare and big fat retirement checks from SS when I retire. Gas prices will either drop dramatically or every engine will run on a cheap, environment-friendly alternative. Global warming or cooling or warming is history come January.

    We can expect no more corporate scandals and an end to almost every genetic disease on the planet.

    This newly divided government should fix all the problems. Now cnn can retire it's daily "broken government" series. I'm sure all the fair and balanced media, except Fox, will continue to educate the voters on how their new legislative branch is conducting themselves in the highest of ethical manners.

    Unlike our lib friends, I actually accept this outcome. No foaming at the mouth and no hatred toward my fellow Americans. I for one am willing to give nancy pelosi her 100 days.

    [b]But I expect results.[/b]

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    That's a great post Weeb. :D

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    wow..some bitter people today.
    The repubs have had total control since 2000 and what have they done?
    Attacked on 9-11
    Failed to capture OBL
    Started a Mess of a war in Iraq
    Failed Social Security policy

    That sums up the Bush presidency..
    Hopefully the country can try and work together now.

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    [QUOTE=Spirit of Weeb]except Fox[/QUOTE]

    Fox and Friends looked like their puppy died. I haven't watched that show in a few months. How long after the Israel-Lebanon thing did they lose the Hebrew style font for their shows name?

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    [QUOTE=freestater]I disagree. Although the majority of Americans are upset with the administrations prosecution of the war, I think the Repubs lost because they turned on their conservative base. There's enough conservatives in this country to win these elections, but they have been betrayed by a fiscal liberal. The Bush admin. has
    - refused to secure the border, going so far as to call those who volunteer to stand guard 'vigilantes',
    - increased spending like drunken sailors,
    - increased the national debt to the point where all income tax reciepts for the entire nation go entirely to service the interest on the debt,
    - refused to curb redistribution-of-wealth programs, and even expanded them, giving us the single largest increase in the socialist welfare state since LBJ's 'great society'.[/QUOTE]

    You have some good points in your message. I think that the the dems voted against Bush and the repubs voted dem for the reasons you state

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    [QUOTE=Spirit of Weeb]Time to pay the piper now.

    The scapegoat is dead. The dems have all the answers, so now instead of griping, it's time to roll up their sleeves and fix all of America and the worlds "problems" in a bi-partisan manner.

    We should expect the economy to really roar now -- the value of the dollar to be at it's highest, our debt to be at it's lowest.

    Keep jihadists off our backs while admitting "defeat" in iraq and moving the troops to okinawa. We should all be happy -- 100 days from January 2007, I expect osama bin laden in US custody and the end of terrorism.

    I will expect securer borders.

    As a middle class American, I can expect a better life -- lower taxes, a bigger paycheck, job security, free healthcare and big fat retirement checks from SS when I retire. Gas prices will either drop dramatically or every engine will run on a cheap, environment-friendly alternative. Global warming or cooling or warming is history come January.

    We can expect no more corporate scandals and an end to almost every genetic disease on the planet.

    This newly divided government should fix all the problems. Now cnn can retire it's daily "broken government" series. I'm sure all the fair and balanced media, except Fox, will continue to educate the voters on how their new legislative branch is conducting themselves in the highest of ethical manners.

    Unlike our lib friends, I actually accept this outcome. No foaming at the mouth and no hatred toward my fellow Americans. I for one am willing to give nancy pelosi her 100 days.

    [b]But I expect results.[/b][/QUOTE]

    I think that your expectations are a bit unrealistic for two years. See my above message for somethings that can be reached.

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    [QUOTE=bman]wow..some bitter people today.
    The repubs have had total control since 2000 and what have they done?
    Attacked on 9-11
    Failed to capture OBL
    Started a Mess of a war in Iraq
    Failed Social Security policy

    That sums up the Bush presidency..
    Hopefully the country can try and work together now.[/QUOTE]

    Bush has failed the American people. Now the failure shows with these astounding results. I don't want the dems just to beat the drum of investigate this and that all day.

    I do think that some investigations are necessary though. The secret energy meetings, the no bid contracts, Katrina. There should be some heads rolled over those scandals.

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    [QUOTE=bman]wow..some bitter people today.
    The repubs have had total control since 2000 and what have they done?
    Attacked on 9-11
    Failed to capture OBL
    Started a Mess of a war in Iraq
    Failed Social Security policy

    That sums up the Bush presidency..
    Hopefully the country can try and work together now.[/QUOTE]

    Who is bitter? Do you even read before you post?

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    [QUOTE=shakin318]Who is bitter? Do you even read before you post?[/QUOTE]

    GJH

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    [QUOTE=shakin318]This was a referendum on Iraq, period.[/QUOTE]well, iraq [i]and[/i] scandal.

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