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    Say it ain't so!

    Melky deal still being considered
    BY KEN DAVIDOFF
    Newsday Staff Writer

    December 19, 2006

    The Yankees continue to debate internally whether they should trade outfielder Melky Cabrera for Pittsburgh closer Mike Gonzalez. Yesterday, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman met with Joe Torre and the club's coaches.

    In the meantime, the team's starting rotation is coming together. Andy Pettitte arrived in New York yesterday and will have a physical examination today; assuming he passes, he'll be reintroduced at a Yankee Stadium news conference tomorrow. The Yankees locked in Pettitte on Dec. 8 to a one-year, $16-million contract, with a $16-million player option for 2008.

    Japanese lefthander Kei Igawa, meanwhile, will arrive in New York from Japan tomorrow and have his physical this week. The Yankees don't plan to introduce him at a news conference until January. Having won the rights to negotiate with Igawa thanks to a $26-million posting fee, the Yankees have agreed to a four-year, $20-million contract with the former Hanshin Tigers pitcher. As per the rules of the Japanese posting system, the Yankees must announce the contract by Dec. 28.

    Cabrera, 22, is the Yankees' best trading chip, and the club is intrigued by the idea of acquiring Gonzalez, 28, to set up Mariano Rivera. There have been three-way trade discussions with Atlanta, in which first baseman Adam LaRoche would go to Pittsburgh and Cabrera to the Braves, and straight-up talks with the Pirates, in which Cabrera and a pitching prospect would go to Pittsburgh.

    Cabrera's status likely will determine Bernie Williams' future. If the Yankees trade Cabrera, they will have room on their roster for Williams, 38, who wants to play another year. But if the Yankees decide to keep Cabrera, they probably won't bring Williams back.

    The Yankees also are negotiating with free-agent first baseman Doug Mientkiewicz. The Yankees are intrigued by a potential platoon of the lefthanded-hitting Mientkiewicz and either Rule 5 selection Josh Phelps or Andy Phillips.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...-yankees-print

    I would hate to lose Melky.....he is a spark for this team and he is going to be a great player. I don't understand why they would consider giving up a guy who could be a star for years to come. WTF?

    any thoughts??

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    melky a star? LMFAO... this is a good trade for the yanks

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    - Yankees have no need for Melky with Abreu and Matsui in the corner outfield spots right now.

    - Good Corner Outfielders are easy to buy in the Market as it's a dime a dozen position, there are always 2 or 3 pretty good ones available every single year so when Abreu's deal expires im sure the Yankees will just buy a new one (If they're lucky they can convince Johnny Damon to move to a corner and then sign Vernon Wells or Andruw Jones).

    - Because Good Corner Outfielders are a dime a dozen and his trade value is so high in this overpriced market, it doesn't make sense NOT to trade him, same with the Mets and Milledge

    Not to mention that Mike Gonzalez is a potential Above-Average closer. To have him as a set-up man (And Probably eventually replace Rivera) would be deadly.

    (And this is coming from a Mets fan.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven0m
    - Yankees have no need for Melky with Abreu and Matsui in the corner outfield spots right now.
    Disagree completely. The Yankees have a huge need for Melky right now. Damon will only be able to play 130 games in CF max, and the Yankees need a defensive replacement for Matsui - not to mention he should get some games off too. And as we saw last year, there can always be injuries. The Yankees, because of the lack of defense in the corner outfield positions and the propensity for their CFer to get banged up (based on the way he plays) desperately need a good 4th outfielder that plays good defense and is an an average to above average offensive player.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ven0m
    - Good Corner Outfielders are easy to buy in the Market as it's a dime a dozen position, there are always 2 or 3 pretty good ones available every single year so when Abreu's deal expires im sure the Yankees will just buy a new one (If they're lucky they can convince Johnny Damon to move to a corner and then sign Vernon Wells or Andruw Jones).
    Huh? Good corner outfielders are a dime a dozen??? Didn't Alfonso Soriano just get 8/$136 million? Didn't Carlos Lee just get 6/$100M? Didn't JD Drew just get 5/$70M???

    Obviously Melky isn't as good as those guys, but he was only 21 last year and is going to continue to develop. At worst, he will be a Frank Catalanotto type offensive player with much better defense.

    And moving Damon to a corner would be a terrible move. He is a good defensive CFer and is a great offensive player for a CFer. Why would the Yankees waste that value by moving him to LF or RF (I assume it would be RF since Matsui plays LF), where his arm will be even more of a problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ven0m
    - Because Good Corner Outfielders are a dime a dozen and his trade value is so high in this overpriced market, it doesn't make sense NOT to trade him, same with the Mets and Milledge

    Not to mention that Mike Gonzalez is a potential Above-Average closer. To have him as a set-up man (And Probably eventually replace Rivera) would be deadly.

    (And this is coming from a Mets fan.)
    Well good corner outfielders are not a dime a dozen... His trade value will get higher as the market continues to get crazier and he gets better. Lastings Milledge's value has actually decreased after his poor rookie year.

    Gonzalez is the left handed version of Kyle Farnsworth - which I don't think is a bad thing - but that's what he is. Way too many walks and he also has injury concerns with his left elbow.

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