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    Lawmaker stands firm on Quran criticism

    Heres a good story to discuss:


    ROCKY MOUNT, Va. - A congressman said Thursday that he will not retract a letter warning that unless immigration is tightened, "many more Muslims will be elected" and use the Quran to take the oath of office.

    Republican Rep. Virgil Goode (news, bio, voting record) triggered angry responses from a civil rights group and some colleagues with a letter this month to constituents concerned about a decision by Rep.-elect Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the first Muslim elected to Congress, to use the Quran when he is sworn in.

    "I will not be putting my hand on the Quran," Goode said at a news conference Thursday at the Franklin County Courthouse.

    Goode, who represents Virginia's 5th Congressional District, said he is receiving more positive comments from constituents than negative.

    "One lady told me she thinks I'm doing the right thing on this," he told Fox News. "I wish more people would take a stand and stand up for the principles on which this country was founded."

    Goode also told Fox News he wants to limit legal immigration and do away with "diversity visas," which he said let in people "not from European countries" and "some terrorist states."

    In his letter, Goode wrote that strict immigration polices are necessary "to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America."

    "The Muslim representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district and if American citizens don't wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran," he wrote.

    Ellison said Thursday that Goode and others had nothing to fear about Muslims.

    "They are our nurses, doctors, husbands, wives, kids, who just want to live and prosper in the American way," Ellison, a Democrat from Minneapolis, said Thursday on CNN when asked what he would say to Goode if they met. "All of us are steadfastly opposed to the same people he's opposed to, which is terrorists, and so there's nothing for him to be afraid of."

    Asked whether he thought Goode was a bigot, Ellison said, "I don't know the fellow, and I'd rather just say that he has a lot to learn about Islam. ... I don't want to start any name-calling."

    Virginia's senior senator, Republican John Warner, said in a statement Thursday that he respects the right of congressional members to freely "exercise the religion of their choice, including those of the Islamic faith utilizing the Quran."

    Rep. Rahm Emanuel (news, bio, voting record), an Illinois Democrat who is Jewish, said Thursday that he hoped Goode would meet with Ellison, saying he would "see what I saw: a good American with good values of a different faith who's trying to do right by the people he represents."

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations had asked Goode to apologize, saying the remarks sent "a message of intolerance that is unworthy of anyone elected to public office."

    Ellison was born in Detroit and converted to Islam in college.

    His decision to use the Quran at his ceremonial swearing-in next month prompted criticism from conservative talk radio host Dennis Prager. The American-Islamic relations council has called for Prager's removal from the board of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

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    Ellison continues to display what is good about America. His class and intelligence is showing. Goode needs to go back to Sunday School as I am sure Jesus would not cause alarm because the man is of a different religion.

    Amy Klobuchar is not complaining about Ellison....he was elected by the American process and won. Goode should get over it.

    Lastly, why is the GOP not speaking out against his religious hatred?
    Last edited by Jetdawgg; 12-22-2006 at 12:03 PM.

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    Goode is a disgrace. The idea that having Muslims elected - whoever they are, whatever they stand for - is a bad thing is bigotry, pure and simple.

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    [B]"One lady told me she thinks I'm doing the right thing on this," he told Fox News. "I wish more people would take a stand and stand up for the principles on which this country was founded."[/B]

    I thought that this country was founded upon the principal of religious freedom?

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg][b]"One lady told me she thinks I'm doing the right thing on this," he told Fox News. "I wish more people would take a stand and stand up for the principles on which this country was founded."[/b]

    I thought that this country was founded upon the principal of religious freedom?[/QUOTE]

    Which are not the principals (sic) of Islam.

    No points for guessing what the last part of the
    1st line of the Marine Hymn is referring to, Pvt. Idaho.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it]Goode is a disgrace. The idea that having Muslims elected - whoever they are, whatever they stand for - is a bad thing is bigotry, pure and simple.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed 100%. You and jetdawg are absolutely correct on this one.

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    [QUOTE=jets5ever]Agreed 100%. You and jetdawg are absolutely correct on this one.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, if you rip out the pages that say, Kill the infidels.

    Youd be left with a pamphlet, but that might just be legal enough.

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    [QUOTE=jets5ever]Agreed 100%. You and jetdawg are absolutely correct on this one.[/QUOTE]
    And his rant about we need to change the immigration laws or else we will have a lot more Moslem representatives is just so over the boundaries of decency that how does the Republican Party stay silent over this?

    FJ can write a 1000 posts on the Moslem religion and it is completely irrelevant. The man was elected, and born here no less, and he is entitled to his beliefs.

    What do FJ and Goode recommend? That he not be allowed in Congress because they don't like his religion? Those are the kind of people we don't need in this country. Not Ellison.

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    A couple of thoughts:

    (1) THe guy won an election. We need to recognize nad respect that.

    (2) If you/we don;t like it, be as active as you can in the next election to support the kind of elected officials you want.

    Meanwhile, he gets to swear in on whatever he wants.

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    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan]And his rant about we need to change the immigration laws or else we will have a lot more Moslem representatives is just so over the boundaries of decency that how does the Republican Party stay silent over this?

    FJ can write a 1000 posts on the Moslem religion and it is completely irrelevant. The man was elected, and born here no less, and he is entitled to his beliefs.

    What do FJ and Goode recommend? That he not be allowed in Congress because they don't like his religion? Those are the kind of people we don't need in this country. Not Ellison.[/QUOTE]

    Queer Jet Fan,
    Again with the aspersions?

    I dont care if people want to put their hand on the Yellow Pages,
    or the Penny Saver.

    Just keep in mind that inside the Green Pages, or "Holy Q'u'r'a'n"
    there's a lot of hateful sh*t.

    But, if it's just ancient shibboleths not to be taken literally
    in your tiny mind, keep on believing that while they target
    you above all.

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    Oh so now I'm queer. Typical FJ nonsense. Spew out the hatred as it certainly makes his points more valid.

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    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan]Oh so now I'm queer. Typical FJ nonsense. Spew out the hatred as it certainly makes his points more valid.[/QUOTE]

    Yes Queer,

    from m-w.com:

    [b]1 a[/b] [b]: [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/worthless"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]WORTHLESS[/color][/size][/url], [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/counterfeit"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]COUNTERFEIT[/color][/size][/url][/b] <[i]queer[/i] money> [b]b[/b] [b]: [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/questionable"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]QUESTIONABLE[/color][/size][/url], [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/suspicious"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]SUSPICIOUS[/color][/size][/url][/b]
    [b]2 a[/b] [b]:[/b] differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal [b]b [/b](1) [b]: [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/eccentric"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]ECCENTRIC[/color][/size][/url], [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/unconventional"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]UNCONVENTIONAL[/color][/size][/url][/b] (2) [b]:[/b] mildly insane [b]: [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/touched"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]TOUCHED[/color][/size][/url][/b] [b]c[/b] [b]:[/b] absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree [b]: [url="http://m-w.com/dictionary/obsessed"][size=-1][color=#0000ff]OBSESSED[/color][/size][/url][/b]
    [b]3[/b] [b]:[/b] not quite well

    Or should I say, Quran Jets Fan.

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Which are not the principals (sic) of Islam.

    No points for guessing what the last part of the
    1st line of the Marine Hymn is referring to, Pvt. Idaho.[/QUOTE]

    Did you even join the Brownies?

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Did you even join the Brownies?[/QUOTE]

    Like you?

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Like you?[/QUOTE]

    There are women who join the Marines. Where was/is your guts? I did my four years.

    Try to do one day. I know you couldn't make it.

    Marines are the worlds greatest warrriors. We couldn't let you disgrace the Marine Corps like that.

    Marines don't hide behind computer screens and start trash talking to other posters.

    Brownies do that!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [url]http://www.marines.com/page/Home.jsp?WT.mc_id=AXW084AXXAXX0206&WT.srch=1[/url]


    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps[/url]


    [url]http://www.marines.com/[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]There are women who join the Marines. Where was/is your guts? I did my four years.

    Try to do one day. I know you couldn't make it.

    Marines are the worlds greatest warrriors. We couldn't let you disgrace the Marine Corps like that.

    Marines don't hide behind computer screens and start trash talking to other posters.

    Brownies do that!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [url="http://www.marines.com/page/Home.jsp?WT.mc_id=AXW084AXXAXX0206&WT.srch=1"]http://www.marines.com/page/Home.jsp?WT.mc_id=AXW084AXXAXX0206&WT.srch=1[/url]


    [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps[/url]


    [url="http://www.marines.com/"]http://www.marines.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

    Sure Benedawgg.

    I'm a lot more capable in every way than you, even without
    the gov't handouts.

    Go plant a wet smooch on your Jimmy Massey
    Cindy Sheehan and John Kerry action figurines and leave
    us alone-we can read the daily Kos-tard "news"
    without having a big dopey anti-American traitor
    parrot repeat it to us.

    I know one thing, 1st Intelligence Battalion you
    werent!

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Sure Benedawgg.

    I'm a lot more capable in every way than you, even without
    the gov't handouts.

    Go plant a wet smooch on your Jimmy Massey
    Cindy Sheehan and John Kerry action figurines and leave
    us alone-we can read the daily Kos-tard "news"
    without having a big dopey anti-American traitor
    parrot repeat it to us.

    I know one thing, 1st Intelligence Battalion you
    werent![/QUOTE]

    How wrong you are....My MOS was intelligence....

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How wrong you are....My MOS was intelligence....[/QUOTE]

    Job 2086 - Intelligence Food Service Specialist - hey even the
    people in intelligence have to eat

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Job 2086 - Intelligence Food Service Specialist - hey even the
    people in intelligence have to eat[/QUOTE]

    You must starve then and not only for food. Those folks in that MOS still have more guts than you do.

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]You must starve then and not only for food. Those folks in that MOS still have more guts than you do.[/QUOTE]

    Far from it, Benedawgg.

    Flipping burgers for the people who do the heavy lifting
    is fine, but not an equivalency.

    Anti-war vets who posit themselves as patriotic
    do have a moral equivalence though-Benedict Arnold.

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