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    "it seems like our gov't helps starving cows faster than it helps stranded black people"-bitoni

    Get a clue

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio]"it seems like our gov't helps starving cows faster than it helps stranded black people"-bitoni

    Get a clue[/QUOTE]


    maybe you should get one, i thiought the gov't didn't need to help the mighty westerners (and their cows)?

    I thought these people took care of themselves?

    [quote]
    National Guard helicopters dropped Meals Ready to Eat, or military rations, outside remote houses, where the nearest neighbor might be miles away. The Guard also ferried in food, water and medicine on Humvees and snowmobiles and provided rides out for those in need.
    [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/03/winter.storm.ap/index.html[/url]

    [/quote]

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    Ok Bit, you are the Federal Govt./President.

    How would you have handled Katrina, given all the facts in evidence?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]maybe you should get one, i thiought the gov't didn't need to help the mighty westerners (and their cows)?

    I thought these people took care of themselves?[/QUOTE]

    whats worth more, a coupla MRTEs, or
    a stripper-ready Debit Card for the able-bodied?

    another good one, bite-onti
    as GOB would say you never fail to amuse

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]the US national guard has been throwing bales of hay out of attack choppers to support the 1.8 Billion dollar midwestern cattle industry

    why aren't you all crying and screaming about gov't welfare? Ohhh ohhh waah wahh cry cry.

    you want to compare this to Katrina? ok

    it seems like our gov't helps starving cows faster than it helps stranded black people[/QUOTE]


    I hate to tell you many of these POOR people have been on Govt. welfare for generations. I belive in giving people a helping hand but enough with the hand outs! Get a frigging job!

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    [QUOTE=Warfish]Ok Bit, you are the Federal Govt./President.

    How would you have handled Katrina, given all the facts in evidence?[/QUOTE]

    warfish i was looking at my computer on friday night 11pm, weather.com. I asked my girlfriend has she ever been to New Orleans? She says no, i say too bad because after Sunday night there's not gonna be a New Orleans.

    how would have I handled it? Specifically im not sure - but you can beat your ass there would be activities going on well before hand. Bush's problem wasn't what he did for Katrina it's what he didn't do, and that's look like he gave a s--t. The man was playing the guitar if memory serves.

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]whats worth more, a coupla MRTEs, or
    a stripper-ready Debit Card for the able-bodied?

    another good one, bite-onti
    as GOB would say you never fail to amuse[/QUOTE]

    hey jerk these threads have been started by western conservatives, i am responding directly to their claims they need not the help of our gov't.

    Bring up "North Dakota vs Katrina" for more of this nonsense.

    the fact of the matter is everyone needs the federal gov't at one time or another more than they'd choose to admit. But it's funny how people don't complain when the cows get free hay.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan]I hate to tell you many of these POOR people have been on Govt. welfare for generations. I belive in giving people a helping hand but enough with the hand outs! Get a frigging job![/QUOTE]


    How about the welfare that the corporations have received over the years? I am sure that it surpasses any amount that poor folks have been provided.

    Your argument is without merit and clearly lacks a lot of facts.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]warfish i was looking at my computer on friday night 11pm, weather.com. I asked my girlfriend has she ever been to New Orleans? She says no, i say too bad because after Sunday night there's not gonna be a New Orleans.

    how would have I handled it? Specifically im not sure - but you can beat your ass there would be activities going on well before hand. Bush's problem wasn't what he did for Katrina it's what he didn't do, and that's look like he gave a s--t. [B]The man was playing the guitar if memory serves.[/B][/QUOTE]


    LOL... that was a heavily circulated photoshopped email joke. Come on, man.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec]LOL... that was a heavily circulated photoshopped email joke. Come on, man.[/QUOTE]

    now you are making me laugh - that was absolutely 100% real - the photoshopped pic was Bush and pops fishing in NO streets.

    it's ok sometimes i think this whole Bush presidency has been an internet scam. he can't be that bad... can he?

    edit: bush played the guitar 4pm EST on Tuesday, the Levees toppled on monday

    [url]http://thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline[/url]
    Last edited by bitonti; 01-03-2007 at 03:53 PM.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]warfish i was looking at my computer on friday night 11pm, weather.com. I asked my girlfriend has she ever been to New Orleans? She says no, i say too bad because after Sunday night there's not gonna be a New Orleans.

    how would have I handled it? Specifically im not sure - but you can beat your ass there would be activities going on well before hand. Bush's problem wasn't what he did for Katrina it's what he didn't do, and that's look like he gave a s--t. The man was playing the guitar if memory serves.[/QUOTE]

    Monday Morning QB suits you Bit, since you do it so often. Hell, if we had only elected YOU PResident, there would be no Iraq War, no Terrorism, and New Orleans would have been Saved!

    You have no concept of personal responsabillity. You excuse every local official (oddly, all Liberal Democrats) while squaring blame only on the President of the United States (a Republican, oddly).

    If I had heard a single word from you crushing the Mayor and crushing the State Govt for their utter failure in protecting and helping the people who put them in office, I MIGHT buy your vitriol and second guessing a little better.

    But we both know what drives you Bit. Or should I say, Nostrada-Bit. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about the welfare that the corporations have received over the years? I am sure that it surpasses any amount that poor folks have been provided.

    Your argument is without merit and clearly lacks a lot of facts.[/QUOTE]

    You havent provided one fact yet.

    Opinions, yes, you have quite a few.

    For an alleged "engineer" ,
    you surely impress no one with your mental acuity.

    In fact you remind me of the schizophrenic men who live
    across town in group homes who wander around
    downtown but who claim to have gone to Harvard,
    been astronauts, lawyers, CEO's, etc.

    Your MO: Start thread after thread with inflammatory crap,
    get owned, and then declare facts non-factual, discussion over etc.

    You must be a laugh riot in your cell block.
    Last edited by flushingjet; 01-03-2007 at 05:43 PM.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]hey jerk these threads have been started by western conservatives, i am responding directly to their claims they need not the help of our gov't.

    Bring up "North Dakota vs Katrina" for more of this nonsense.

    the fact of the matter is everyone needs the federal gov't at one time or another more than they'd choose to admit. But it's funny how people don't complain when the cows get free hay.[/QUOTE]

    "Jerk"? Is that how you make friends and win your losing arguments?

    Yeah smart but somehow completely innacurate with fantasy drafts stupid guy,
    like where you said ND didnt have floods and you were shown they
    did. They had a massive, extensive one in 1997.

    Just face the facts, the 1st responders to any emergency
    are the local government(s)- when they fail, the feds have
    to pick up the pieces, as fast or slow as they are able to do it.

    Thats after assuming the locals arent
    complete idiots who cant figure out if they need to leave
    an unstoppable natural disaster occurring in their midst, the elderly
    , immobile, and children among them excused.

    You know full well if Egghead and Blank-Stare
    were GOP there'd be cries for their removal
    from office minutes after the last raindrop fell.

    You seem to have a curious understanding of how
    government really works.

    Never mind that farmers get subsidies they may or may not deserve,
    there are lots of other that get money that contribute less
    to our society in terms of employing people or producing items
    of value-among these are artists who make questionable "art",
    students who go to school for decades and default on their loans,
    SMB scams, and other able-bodied bums who get
    govt handouts, and I mean cash/tax breaks and not blocks of cheese staler
    than your ideas.

    However, if you have actually paid thousands of tax $ into govt treasuries,
    as I have, why would you ever feel guilty should you or a family member ever need govt assistance? In that case it would be a repayment or advance on repayment.
    Last edited by flushingjet; 01-03-2007 at 05:41 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish]Monday Morning QB suits you Bit, since you do it so often. Hell, if we had only elected YOU PResident, there would be no Iraq War, no Terrorism, and New Orleans would have been Saved!

    You have no concept of personal responsabillity. You excuse every local official (oddly, all Liberal Democrats) while squaring blame only on the President of the United States (a Republican, oddly).

    If I had heard a single word from you crushing the Mayor and crushing the State Govt for their utter failure in protecting and helping the people who put them in office, I MIGHT buy your vitriol and second guessing a little better.

    But we both know what drives you Bit. Or should I say, Nostrada-Bit. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    bravo bravo warfish you deserve the oscar for this bit of melo drama

    if i were President the world would not be perfect but it wouldn't have been worse i can guaruntee that much

    oh and

    let me put it another way

    blaming the inaction of Katrina on the Mayor and Governor is like blaming Chris Paul for Ty Law being 10 pounds overweight. Herm was to blame for the team being out of shape not the assistant coaches.

    how can we be so blind? Bush has bled the states and cities dry with his war, half the national guard units were in bagdhad!

    i used to call bush a monkey

    in hindsight that was wishful thinking

    worst president ever

    can't stop watching it all unfold

    like a car crash

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]However, if you have actually paid thousands of tax $ into govt treasuries,
    as I have, why would you ever feel guilty should you or a family member ever need govt assistance? In that case it would be a repayment or advance on repayment.[/QUOTE]

    so flushing jet im confused are you for free hay or not?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]the US national guard has been throwing bales of hay out of attack choppers to support the 1.8 Billion dollar midwestern cattle industry

    why aren't you all crying and screaming about gov't welfare? Ohhh ohhh waah wahh cry cry.

    you want to compare this to Katrina? ok

    it seems like our gov't helps starving cows faster than it helps stranded black people[/QUOTE]


    I believe the Guard was the Colorado National guard called out by the Gov of Colorado. I don't think that was in any way a Federal effort? That wasn't called by FEMA or the President it was in fact local government responding.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]bravo bravo warfish you deserve the oscar for this bit of melo drama

    if i were President the world would not be perfect but it wouldn't have been worse i can guaruntee that much

    oh and

    let me put it another way

    blaming the inaction of Katrina on the Mayor and Governor is like blaming Chris Paul for Ty Law being 10 pounds overweight. Herm was to blame for the team being out of shape not the assistant coaches.

    how can we be so blind? Bush has bled the states and cities dry with his war, half the national guard units were in bagdhad!

    i used to call bush a monkey

    in hindsight that was wishful thinking

    worst president ever

    can't stop watching it all unfold

    like a car crash[/QUOTE]

    For once Bit, I am almost speachless. :eek:

    I guess for you, all roads of hate and blame lead directly to George W. Bush and the Republicans, and all others are blameless.

    So the Mayor and State Govt. hold no accountabillity then. It's all Bush, and no one but Bush, the end.

    Ok. If you say so.

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    [quote]Originally Posted by bitonti
    the US national guard has been throwing bales of hay out of attack choppers to support the 1.8 Billion dollar midwestern cattle industry

    why aren't you all crying and screaming about gov't welfare? Ohhh ohhh waah wahh cry cry.

    you want to compare this to Katrina? ok

    it seems like our gov't helps starving cows faster than it helps stranded black people[/quote]

    They aren't attack helicopters but I wouldn't expect a liberal to know any better.

    Also it's not welfare if
    the farmers own the hay being dropped.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]so flushing jet im confused are you for free hay or not?[/QUOTE]

    To paraphrase an economic adage
    "There aint no free hay"

    But I wouldnt expect you to grasp economics
    only at straws. Hay, or otherwise.

    I dont like subsidies for anything.
    In general they are political rewards/tools and
    are contrary to the workings of free markets.
    Been that way since FDR days.

    But, you got to counter what other WTO countries do
    commodities-wise; also:

    VT, the closest state we have to a Soviet Socialist Republic,
    got 45M for their dairies over a series of years,
    yet still experienced SMB dairy closures.
    That was part of the Clinton era Dairy Compact.
    Congress OKed it and Clinton signed it in.
    So thats logrolling/Congress for ya.

    That being said, in a screwball world where artists who put crucifixes in jars of urine and make similiar deathless works of art get US govt grants,
    and able bodied illegals, flim flam men and other shiftless
    characters sponge off our government as well,
    a hard working SMB farmer in any state getting a subsidy is the least of my concerns budget wise

    At least they keep their money in this country unlike the leeches
    that ship it out of the country.
    Last edited by flushingjet; 01-03-2007 at 07:52 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg]How about the welfare that the corporations have received over the years? I am sure that it surpasses any amount that poor folks have been provided.

    Your argument is without merit and clearly lacks a lot of facts.[/QUOTE]

    Here you go again. Your argument is the one without merit. How much have corporations contributed to the US Treasury? Many many times more than the welfare recipients have, thats for sure.

    You make no points. You have no argument.

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