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Thread: Hussein Obama- First a Junkie then a baby killer

  1. #21
    [QUOTE=flushingjet]yeah, drugs are a victimless crime, we know.[/QUOTE]

    Are you trying to be sarcastic, or no? :confused:

  2. #22
    flushingjet
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    [QUOTE=Warfish]Are you trying to be sarcastic, or no? :confused:[/QUOTE]

    Yup.

    The social and economic costs are immense.

    Didnt we go over this awready?

    You dont have to be ultra-conservative or a
    moralist to be against illegal drugs.

    Why anyone would think an amoral life
    has no ill effects on others I have no idea.

    If you cant get through the day without weed,
    grow your own in your yard, the neighbors pets
    will think its catnip.

    In the topsy turvy world of drug users:

    Religion and religious expression - harmful / bad
    Illlegal drugs and drug use - innocuous / good

  3. #23
    the war on drugs sure is cheap.

  4. #24
    flushingjet
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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound]the war on drugs sure is cheap.[/QUOTE]

    Not as cheap and cheesy as the drug users or sellers
    or life in a drug-ravaged "neighborhood"

    but hey now theres a thought
    let's try suspending all drug treatment programs
    and save some $
    cold turkey might be the greatest love of all-tough love

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Yup.

    The social and economic costs are immense.

    Didnt we go over this awready?

    You dont have to be ultra-conservative or a
    moralist to be against illegal drugs.

    Why anyone would think an amoral life
    has no ill effects on others I have no idea.

    If you cant get through the day without weed,
    grow your own in your yard, the neighbors pets
    will think its catnip.

    In the topsy turvy world of drug users:

    Religion and religious expression - harmful / bad
    Illlegal drugs and drug use - innocuous / good[/QUOTE]

    Sorry flush, was hard to tell. You know as well as I that feeling (and especially sarcasm) is often hard to get accross online.

    In any event, I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, nor debate you on the topic of drugs, or Pot specificly. We both know you cannot be swayed, nor can I. My experiences with Pot and Alcohol tell me one thing. Your experiences tell you another, very different, thing. And thats fine.

    And for the record, while I am no personal fan or supporter of religion, I do not believe personal expression, or being religious, is bad in any form. I fully support the freedom of people to worship as they wish, in any form they wish, as long as that worship does not infringe upon the rights of others. I only oppose religion-only-based ideals becoming civic law, and any religion who would promote taking away my freedoms in any form. I think that is a fair position to both sides, but you're free to disagree.

  6. #26
    [QUOTE=flushingjet]

    Religion and religious expression - harmful / bad
    Illlegal drugs and drug use - innocuous / good[/QUOTE]


    it's a sick world, man

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]still waiting for Clintons medical records.

    yeah, drugs are a victimless crime, we know.[/QUOTE]


    You like music, Flush?

  8. #28
    Did you read what you highlighted? He said he was head to be a pot-head or junkie. Meaning he didn't become one, but he felt he was headed that way if he didn't change his ways.

    I like the Hussein Obama, do you think that should be his name? Or do you just steal these pathetic nicknames from Rush?

    CBTNY, how many junkies do you know went to Harvard law?

    [B]In Dreams from My Father, Obama writes about smoking marijuana and trying cocaine during his teenage years. Inviting journalists to contrast his earlier admission with Bill Clinton's "didn't inhale" remarks made during the 1992 presidential campaign, Obama recently stated: "I inhaled—that was the point."Obama added: "It was reflective of the struggles and confusion of a teenage boy; teenage boys are frequently confused."[/B]



    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]Once again your ignorance shines brightly...

    I did not call him a junkie- it is a term he used to refer to himself...

    I know your mind is clouded with all kinds of BS so I will re-post the first paragraph from the story and highlight the issue to clear it up for your simple mind....[/QUOTE]

  9. #29
    [QUOTE=flushingjet]Yup.

    The social and economic costs are immense.

    Didnt we go over this awready?

    You dont have to be ultra-conservative or a
    moralist to be against illegal drugs.

    Why anyone would think an amoral life
    has no ill effects on others I have no idea.

    If you cant get through the day without weed,
    grow your own in your yard, the neighbors pets
    will think its catnip.

    In the topsy turvy world of drug users:

    Religion and religious expression - harmful / bad
    Illlegal drugs and drug use - innocuous / good[/QUOTE]

    Flushing I agree with your point on drugs. As a former drug user in my distant youth, besides health one of the reasons for quiting was the obvious destruction that drug traffic has on our society. The idea that supporting drug cartels through drug use isn't harmful is just ignorance or worse selfish justification.

    That said, you have to admit having a constitutional amendment that essentially allows people to drink is totally hypocritical if you believe drugs should be illegal to protect people who make a decision to use drugs just as people make a decision to drink, freely.

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    Is Barack Obama 100% black? I thought he was half black and half something else? Muslim? Also, his name isn't African-American.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance99]Is Barack Obama 100% black? I thought he was half black and half something else? Muslim? Also, his name isn't African-American.[/QUOTE]

    Very few people are 100% black or white.

  12. #32
    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound]Very few people are 100% black or white.[/QUOTE]



    you know what he means, are both of his parents black? It's a pretty straight-forward question.

  13. #33
    alcohol is 100x worse for society than pot

    and that's totally legal

  14. #34
    [QUOTE=bitonti]alcohol is 100x worse for society than pot

    and that's totally legal[/QUOTE]

    Not to mention cigarrettes and other Tobacco products!

  15. #35
    [QUOTE=pauliec]Do you have any idea how many aids this guy has? He doesn't run the presidential campaign all by himself.[/QUOTE]

    Paulie, it does not absolve Rudy of the responsibility

  16. #36
    TMahoney
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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]heir hillary will have a field day with this....

    [B]Obama's candor may be issue
    His admission of drug use could get a closer look if candidacy unfolds[/B]

    By LOIS ROMANO
    Washington Post

    WASHINGTON — Long before the national media spotlight began to shine on him, Barack Obama had this to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. ... I got high (to) push questions of who I was out of my mind."

    The Democratic senator from Illinois and likely presidential candidate offered the confession in a memoir written 11 years ago, not long after he graduated from law school and well before he contemplated life on the national stage. At the time, 20,000 copies were printed and the book seemed destined for obscurity.

    Today, Obama, 45, is near the top of the polls of potential Democratic presidential contenders, and Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance has regularly been on the best-seller lists, with 800,000 copies in print. Taken along with his latest best-seller, The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream, Obama has become a publishing phenomenon.

    Once a benign issue

    Obama's revelations were not an issue during his Senate campaign two years ago. But now his narrative of early, bad choices, including drug use starting in high school and ending in college, as well as his tortured search for racial identity, are sure to receive new scrutiny.

    As a potential candidate, Obama has presented himself as a fresh voice offering a politics of hope. Many say he offers something new in American politics: an black American who has so far demonstrated broad appeal. What remains to be seen is whether the candor he offered in his early memoir will be greeted with a new-style acceptance by voters.

    It was not so long ago that such blunt admissions would have led to a candidate's undoing, and there is uneasiness in Democratic circles that Dreams From My Father will provide a blueprint for negative attacks.

    Two decades ago, Judge Douglas Ginsburg of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit was forced to withdraw as a nominee for the Supreme Court after reports surfaced that he had used marijuana while he was a law professor. As a presidential candidate, Bill Clinton thought marijuana use could be enough of a liability in 1992 that he felt compelled to say he had not inhaled. And President Bush has deflected endless gossip about his past by acknowledging that he had an "irresponsible" youth but offering no details.

    Through his book, Obama has become the first potential presidential contender to admit trying cocaine.

    Books often sanitized

    "I believe what the country is looking for is someone who is open, honest and candid about themselves rather than someone who seems endlessly driven by polls or focus groups," said Robert Gibbs, Obama's spokesman. Gibbs said Tuesday that Obama was not available for an interview.

    Presidential aspirants tend to write more sanitized books for use as campaign tools. Faith of My Fathers by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., depicts his family's history of military service. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., has reissued It Takes a Village, which offers her views about child-rearing in contemporary society. In fact, Obama's latest book, Audacity of Hope, gives policy positions.

    But Dreams From My Father is not like that. Obama wrote the highly personal book when he was in his early 30s, after being approached by a publisher when he became the first black person elected editor of the Harvard Law Review.

    "This is not the kind of book you would ever expect a politician to write," said GOP consultant Alex Vogel.

    In fact, Bush himself has been a beneficiary of those sympathies. He has suffered little criticism from his conservative base after acknowledging that he drank too much in the past and is now a teetotaler.


    Consequences uncertain

    Obama's partisan opponents and experts said it is too early to know whether the admissions will be a liability because the public seems to be enthusiastically embracing his openness at this point. What's more, they note that it is better for a politician to disclose his own transgressions, rather than be put on the defensive by revelations.

    A senior Republican strategist who will be advising a GOP presidential candidate in 2008 said he did not see anything in the book that would be a "disqualifier," but he cautioned that Obama has not yet gone through an intense vetting process and that a problem could arise if there is more to his story than he has chosen to share. The strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, also suggested that there will be high tolerance for marijuana use among voters because many baby boomers probably tried the drug in the '60s.

    "Who's going to cast that first stone?" asked Anita Dunn, a veteran Democratic political consultant, who has advised Obama's political committee.


    [url]http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4440273.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    For such an intelligent football poster and fellow Fighting Irish fan, I can't believe the sh*t that you post on this political forum.

    Now I also think its funny that Obama is getting so much attention for such an inexpereinced politician, but come on man.

    The title of this thread says it all. You just want to b*tch slap Obama.

    The article insinuates that most Americans would rather deal with a politician honest about his mistakes. You don't respect that?

  17. #37
    TMahoney
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    [QUOTE=bitonti]alcohol is 100x worse for society than pot

    and that's totally legal[/QUOTE]


    The medical impact is slight, but it makes you lazy. It is the enemy of anyone who leads a goal oriented life. Very few people that smoke weed that you run into are driven individuals.

    When I have kids, I won't let them smoke weed. It kills motivation.

  18. #38
    [QUOTE=CarlSpackler]Very few people that smoke weed that you run into are driven individuals.[/QUOTE]

    Lol at completely unsupported generalizations.

    Few people YOU have run into have been driven individuals. I happen to know quite a few very driven (and very wealthy/professional/succussful) people that either have, or still do, smoke up.

    By the way Carl, you might want to shrink your Sig Pic to board rules size before Sooth does it for you.

  19. #39
    [QUOTE=CarlSpackler]The medical impact is slight, but it makes you lazy. It is the enemy of anyone who leads a goal oriented life. Very few people that smoke weed that you run into are driven individuals.

    When I have kids, I won't let them smoke weed. It kills motivation.[/QUOTE]

    You mean let them smoke it in your house.

  20. #40
    [QUOTE=pauliec]you know what he means, are both of his parents black? It's a pretty straight-forward question.[/QUOTE]

    I think my post applies, because it's irrelevant whether he has an "African-American" name or not.

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