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    The best starting outfield in baseball?

    The New York Yankees of course......

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/...news&fext=.jsp

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    sorry but that's BS if you ask me........

    i'd much rather have bostons outfield than the yanks outfield

    matter of fact i'd bet that the mets outfield will be more productive than the yanks outfield this season as well

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    sorry but that's BS if you ask me........

    i'd much rather have bostons outfield than the yanks outfield

    matter of fact i'd bet that the mets outfield will be more productive than the yanks outfield this season as well

    The sox outfield that has coco crisp in CF and jd drew in RF?
    The mets outfield with shawn green and moises alou? LMAO

    Matsui - Damon - Abreu


    By far the best OF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    sorry but that's BS if you ask me........

    i'd much rather have bostons outfield than the yanks outfield

    matter of fact i'd bet that the mets outfield will be more productive than the yanks outfield this season as well
    Thats a joke right?...you cant be serious...Moises Alou and Shawn Green more productive than Bobby Abreu and Hideki Matsui? on what planet?

    As for the sox, they actually have a pretty good outfield but everyone and their mother knows Nancy is going to wind up on the DL so thats essentially why the Yanks get the nod over the sox...

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    The sox outfield that has coco crisp in CF and jd drew in RF?
    The mets outfield with shawn green and moises alou? LMAO

    Matsui - Damon - Abreu

    By far the best OF.

    yeah whatever.....i don't agree.......

    alou=matsui
    beltran>damon
    abreu>green


    i also wouldn't be surprised one bit if shawn green has a better year than bobby abreu
    Last edited by neckdemon; 03-10-2007 at 02:15 PM.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    yeah whatever.....i don't agree.......

    alou=matsui
    beltran>damon
    abreu>green


    i also wouldn't be surprised one bit if shawn green has a better year than bobby abreu
    lol

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    yeah whatever.....i don't agree.......

    alou=matsui
    beltran>damon
    abreu>green


    i also wouldn't be surprised one bit if shawn green has a better year than bobby abreu

    LMAO @ Alou = Matsui

    Get a clue, man. Get a frickin clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    LMAO @ Alou = Matsui

    Get a clue, man. Get a frickin clue.
    Alou is as good if not better hitter Matsui, it just is fact.

    Code:
    Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
    2004 37 CHC NL 155  601  106  176  36  3  39  106   3  0  68  80  .293  .361  .557  128  335   0   6   2   0  12 MVP-14,AS
     2005 38 SFG NL 123  427   67  137  21  3  19   63   5  1  56  43  .321  .400  .518  141  221   0   4   1   3  11 AS
     2006 39 SFG NL  98  345   52  104  25  1  22   74   2  1  28  31  .301  .352  .571  132  197   0   4   2   1  15
    Code:
     Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
    +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
     2003 29 NYY AL 163  623   82  179  42  1  16  106   2  2  63  86  .287  .353  .435  111  271   0   6   5   3  25 RoY-2,AS
     2004 30 NYY AL 162  584  109  174  34  2  31  108   3  0  88 103  .298  .390  .522  139  305   0   5   2   3  11 MVP-24,AS
     2005 31 NYY AL 162  629  108  192  45  3  23  116   2  2  63  78  .305  .367  .496  125  312   0   8   7   3  16 MVP-14
     2006 32 NYY AL  51  172   32   52   9  0   8   29   1  0  27  23  .302  .393  .494  133   85   0   2   2   0   6
    The only difference between Alou and Matsui is the lineup that they hit in. If Alou hit in the Yankee lineup he would have probably more HR's and RBI's than Matsui.
    Last edited by IM3; 03-10-2007 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    yeah whatever.....i don't agree.......

    alou=matsui
    beltran>damon
    abreu>green


    i also wouldn't be surprised one bit if shawn green has a better year than bobby abreu
    .... right.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by pauliec
    .... right.
    I'd be shocked if Green is starting on opening day at this point and time.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Alou is as good if not better hitter Matsui, it just is fact.

    Code:
    Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
    2004 37 CHC NL 155  601  106  176  36  3  39  106   3  0  68  80  .293  .361  .557  128  335   0   6   2   0  12 MVP-14,AS
     2005 38 SFG NL 123  427   67  137  21  3  19   63   5  1  56  43  .321  .400  .518  141  221   0   4   1   3  11 AS
     2006 39 SFG NL  98  345   52  104  25  1  22   74   2  1  28  31  .301  .352  .571  132  197   0   4   2   1  15
    Code:
     Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
    +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
     2003 29 NYY AL 163  623   82  179  42  1  16  106   2  2  63  86  .287  .353  .435  111  271   0   6   5   3  25 RoY-2,AS
     2004 30 NYY AL 162  584  109  174  34  2  31  108   3  0  88 103  .298  .390  .522  139  305   0   5   2   3  11 MVP-24,AS
     2005 31 NYY AL 162  629  108  192  45  3  23  116   2  2  63  78  .305  .367  .496  125  312   0   8   7   3  16 MVP-14
     2006 32 NYY AL  51  172   32   52   9  0   8   29   1  0  27  23  .302  .393  .494  133   85   0   2   2   0   6
    The only difference between Alou and Matsui is the lineup that they hit in. If Alou hit in the Yankee lineup he would have probably more HR's and RBI's than Matsui.

    Alou was very very good in 2004 as a hitter (a total hack in the field though), but he hasnt played as much in 05 or 06 because he is broken down with injuries. He's not a guy you can send out there everyday. Matsui is an iron man, freak wrist injury break aside, his consecutive games streak speaks for itself.

    Shawn Green sucks, the disparity in production between him and Abreu is too much to overcome for the Mets in this debate. The Yankees OFers are simply better, and its not even close.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    Alou was very very good in 2004 as a hitter (a total hack in the field though), but he hasnt played as much in 05 or 06 because he is broken down with injuries. He's not a guy you can send out there everyday. Matsui is an iron man, freak wrist injury break aside, his consecutive games streak speaks for itself.

    Shawn Green sucks, the disparity in production between him and Abreu is too much to overcome for the Mets in this debate. The Yankees OFers are simply better, and its not even close.
    you were wrong its obvious i can learn nothing from you.......you have no clue.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Man-O-Gold
    you were wrong its obvious i can learn nothing from you.......you have no clue.

    The Mets OF is better than the Yankees, is that what you are saying?

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    The Mets OF is better than the Yankees, is that what you are saying?
    i am not saying one way or the other.........but you seem to think that its not even close which is what i am refering to.

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Man-O-Gold
    i am not saying one way or the other.........but you seem to think that its not even close which is what i am refering to.

    Based on the fact that the difference between Abreus productivity and Shawn Greens is so large, coupled with the fact that Alou is not an every day player anymore, I'd say its not close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    Alou was very very good in 2004 as a hitter (a total hack in the field though), but he hasnt played as much in 05 or 06 because he is broken down with injuries. He's not a guy you can send out there everyday. Matsui is an iron man, freak wrist injury break aside, his consecutive games streak speaks for itself.

    Shawn Green sucks, the disparity in production between him and Abreu is too much to overcome for the Mets in this debate. The Yankees OFers are simply better, and its not even close.
    Playing Devils advocate...

    Moises Alou was on pace to be a .300/30/100 hitter last season if not for his injury and is coming off of 3 consecutive 900 OPS seasons. The guy can still rake. When healthy has proven to be right up there with just about anybody in the league.

    I would tend to think the disparity between Carlos Beltran and Johnny Damon at least equals the disparity between Shaun Green and Bobby Abreu. Sure, Damon is a pretty good hitter, but Carlos Beltran was an MVP canidate last season.

    Also, I'd take the Mets having the depth of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge and Ben Johnson over the Yankees having Melky Cabrera and exactly who?

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ven0m
    Playing Devils advocate...

    Moises Alou was on pace to be a .300/30/100 hitter last season if not for his injury and is coming off of 3 consecutive 900 OPS seasons. The guy can still rake. When healthy has proven to be right up there with just about anybody in the league.

    I would tend to think the disparity between Carlos Beltran and Johnny Damon at least equals the disparity between Shaun Green and Bobby Abreu. Sure, Damon is a pretty good hitter, but Carlos Beltran was an MVP canidate last season.

    Also, I'd take the Mets having the depth of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge and Ben Johnson over the Yankees having Melky Cabrera and exactly who?

    don't try to use common sense with yankees fans..........they will just tell you that you are clueless...........of course the yankees have the best OF.....the publication cited says so, and well, they are the yankees..........


    oh and btw, i scoff at the fact that you arrogant yankees fans think that shawn green is nowhere near the production capability of bobby freakin abreu....
    THAT'S A JOKE!!!!!!!
    shawn green has had a better career than abreu....they ar both coming off of an off year.........difference being that green's good years were head and shoulders above abreu's..........
    only thing abreu gets the nod for is obp andbecause he walks more often.........and sb's
    green has finished in the top 9 in mvp voting 3 times, something abreu hasn't even come close to
    and after abreu had to quit juicung he couldn't even jack homers anymore in a total band-box in philly
    it's obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about if you just want to blurt out that shawn green sucks with absolutely NO facts to back it up..........
    Last edited by neckdemon; 03-11-2007 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoolJet
    Alou was very very good in 2004 as a hitter (a total hack in the field though), but he hasnt played as much in 05 or 06 because he is broken down with injuries. He's not a guy you can send out there everyday. Matsui is an iron man, freak wrist injury break aside, his consecutive games streak speaks for itself.

    Shawn Green sucks, the disparity in production between him and Abreu is too much to overcome for the Mets in this debate. The Yankees OFers are simply better, and its not even close.

    you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about......
    oh and btw, matsui's consecutive games streak is over, i don't care what the reason is, it's still over........
    remember pennington had a "freak" wrist injury as well

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon
    shawn green has had a better career than abreu....
    stop it

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    Quote Originally Posted by neckdemon

    oh and btw, i scoff at the fact that you arrogant yankees fans think that shawn green is nowhere near the production capability of bobby freakin abreu....
    THAT'S A JOKE!!!!!!!
    shawn green has had a better career than abreu....they ar both coming off of an off year.........
    Abreu had an off year?

    Please explain.

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