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    Global Warming fight is affordable, says new report

    [QUOTE]Increased energy efficiency, wider use of renewable energy sources, shifts in land use and farming practices, and wider use of nuclear energy among other measures could substantially reduce the risk of feeling the worst effects of global warming outlined in two previous IPCC volumes released earlier this year.

    To be sure, these mitigation efforts will come at a cost to economic growth. The biggest gains happen when the price of carbon hits $100 a ton, according to the authors, raising the cost of fossil fuels such as oil or coal. By some estimates, that would translate into US gasoline prices from $0.25 to $1 a gallon higher than today's.

    But in the context of global economic activity, that cost is modest, according to the report. [B]Under its most aggressive emissions-reduction scenario, still-robust economic growth rates would slow by an average of only 0.12 percent a year between now and 2030 or by roughly 3 percent over the entire period.[/B][/QUOTE]

    [URL=http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0504/p25s02-wogi.html]http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0504/p25s02-wogi.html[/URL]

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    No better sources than UN backed studies.

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    [QUOTE=Piper]No better sources than UN backed studies.[/QUOTE]

    Your sarcasm is noted. I am also skeptical of studies like this, but perhaps a worldwide change in energy policy would not have a grossly negative economic impact as some suggest. Other industries could flourish and negate any slowdown in overall economic growth.

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    it's classic how the mindless continually turn to the UN for guidance...the same people (the UN) who drive big gas guzzlers around NYC now want everyone else to pay for global warming....

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    [QUOTE=parafly]Your sarcasm is noted. I am also skeptical of studies like this, but perhaps a worldwide change in energy policy would not have a grossly negative economic impact as some suggest. Other industries could flourish and negate any slowdown in overall economic growth.[/QUOTE]


    Isn't it a little bizarre that the UN keeps telling us Global Warming is the biggest threat we face, bigger than any other environmental concern, economic concern, security/stability concern and that drastic measures need to be taken to avoid catastrophy, and that, hey, addressing the problem is virtually painless? This doesn't smack of classic "framing" and marketing? We're doomed unless we drastically alter our lifesytles and reduce our cnosumption and usage, but hey, it won't even be that bad!

    And regardless of whatever happens, GW alarmists can argue that they are right. If we take every step they want us to and the warming continues, well, that just means we're not doing enough! And if the warming slows down, hey, it's working! And if growth is slowed considerably, they'll just produce a study showing that the slowdown cannot be attributed to the changes they enacted, etc.

    It all just seems very weird to me....

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    [QUOTE=jets5ever]Isn't it a little bizarre that the UN keeps telling us Global Warming is the biggest threat we face, bigger than any other environmental concern, economic concern, security/stability concern and that drastic measures need to be taken to avoid catastrophy, and that, hey, addressing the problem is virtually painless? This doesn't smack of classic "framing" and marketing? We're doomed unless we drastically alter our lifesytles and reduce our cnosumption and usage, but hey, it won't even be that bad!

    And regardless of whatever happens, GW alarmists can argue that they are right. If we take every step they want us to and the warming continues, well, that just means we're not doing enough! And if the warming slows down, hey, it's working! And if growth is slowed considerably, they'll just produce a study showing that the slowdown cannot be attributed to the changes they enacted, etc.

    It all just seems very weird to me....[/QUOTE]


    Well... you know my view on this subject. But the problem is really a situation that we created that is devoid of a real debate. A debate where you actually believe that there is something on the other side, something that is admired. Now, it's just words. Who can out talk the other. And in the end, we are left with a false debate of the absolute. You are either for or against.

    And with absolute answers come absolute solutions. We have to have solutions!!! So, in the process we take real words that have function to our language and surround them with religiosity. It kills all purpose to be able to deliberate the situation. What is the good? What is the bad? How do we deal with these things?

    Both sides are killing our ability to open the opportunity to discuss these ideas.

    Luckily... I'm on the right side. :D

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